The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

Albertbarich said:

I mean he says at one point Napoli offered us 40 MILLION for Lucas and Levy refused .

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Isn't this the complete opposite of what people criticise him for? People claim he doesn't back his managers, but the only way this utterly lunatic bid would have been rejected would have been if whoever the gaffer was at the time wanted to keep him. Even in today's inflated market, £40m will buy you a much better winger than Lucas at his peak for Spurs (one night in Amsterdam excluded).

Whilst I didn’t expect this window to be a throw money at players fix like the chavs. We have glaring issues at the club, namely in leaking goals because of our defence and this has not been addressed by Levy/ENIC/board….we can see the issues, pretty certain Conte can see it. Yet club doesn’t act on it. Meaning issues continue, yet again no or rest of season which will cost us. We need proactive backing, do push us into the top tier of clubs and that isn’t ever going to be levy/enic

RELISYS said:

Even when we signed no one in 2018 and were in a position of strength there was not this much negativity and even after the recent summer Transfer Window it was more optimism then negativity. Arsenals current rise is feeding the negativity more then anything, the Fans are envious and want what they have currently got. There are also certain posters who are clearly enjoying it and are constantly feeding it but in the end it's only going to be detrimental to the Club.

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This is essentially it.
I’d imagine fans of every other club are scratching their collective heads wondering what it is Spurs fans are so upset about.
There are probably hundreds of posts asking for a RWB. We have just signed one.
There have been quite a few posts asking for a replacement/successor for Son because he is ‘finished’ or ‘done’.
We have signed one.
Ally Gold said in many of his videos that the priorities for this window were a RWB and attacker. That sounds like a plan that was executed.
I’m far more concerned by the performance/mood of our world class coach this season than I am our owners.

Dave1882 said:

Whilst I didn’t expect this window to be a throw money at players fix like the chavs. We have glaring issues at the club, namely in leaking goals because of our defence and this has not been addressed by Levy/ENIC/board….we can see the issues, pretty certain Conte can see it. Yet club doesn’t act on it. Meaning issues continue, yet again no or rest of season which will cost us. We need proactive backing, do push us into the top tier of clubs and that isn’t ever going to be levy/enic

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You may be right, Enic probably don’t have the resources to responsibly back any manager to the level required to compete against City, United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle.
It might be nice to have someone in charge that is willing and able to spend to the same level as those clubs.

spurs-r-us said:

Oh right, just the "top CB", Porro and Danjuma along with 5-6 more signings in the summer? How many do people actually want? A great RWB and a legitimate wing option is a good window when no great CBs moved or seemed to be available. Two CBs and a creative midfielder in the summer would be an excellent window.

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a squad that can challenge titles, simple as that

Just Go Daniel - do us all a favour and fuck off out of our club.

We’re all sick and tired of your utter negligence / incompetence when it comes to the football side of things (Tottenham Hotspur is a Football Club after all).

There is no coherent plan when it comes to investment in the playing squad. It’s all about the bargains rather than addressing frailties with the best players available. We are “Balance Sheet FC” and your master plan of hiring world class managers in the hope they can work wonders with bang average mid-lower prem standard players continues to fail. 1 trophy in the cabinet since you arrived, multiple missed opportunities to kick on from positions of real strength due to a combination of penny pinching and pure arrogance thinking you know better then the manager - it’s not good enough!

Your ambition is limited to match day revenues and shiny infrastructure, but us fans don’t support the team in the pursuit of “most sustainable stadium” accolades, we follow the team as we crave success on the pitch.

You believe you know it all but continue to demonstrate that you’re utterly fucking clueless about football. With you at the helm we will never achieve anything meaningful on the pitch and so please do the honourable thing and fuck off. Accept the investment and step aside - we’re not interested in you being the “custodian” of our great club if it means you continue to hold us back while our fiercest rivals invest and win trophies. Your time is up, your race is run, we’ve had enough. Take your board with you as well, as they’re equally culpable for our continued under performance in footballing terms.

Get out of our club

Yours

85%+ of the fan base.

p.s enjoy the vitriol you’ll continue to receive in the stadium if you don’t do one soon

Hotspur33 said:

This is essentially it.
I’d imagine fans of every other club are scratching their collective heads wondering what it is Spurs fans are so upset about.
There are probably hundreds of posts asking for a RWB. We have just signed one.
There have been quite a few posts asking for a replacement/successor for Son because he is ‘finished’ or ‘done’.
We have signed one.
Ally Gold said in many of his videos that the priorities for this window were a RWB and attacker. That sounds like a plan that was executed.
I’m far more concerned by the performance/mood of our world class coach this season than I am our owners.

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Fans of every other club are laughing at us…call us Spursy.Scratching their heads at how we went two consecutive windows without a signing…how our recruitment has been awful..how we sack a winning manager a week before a cup final…how we sacked a manager after getting to a champions league final for daring to tell our hierarchy that some of the squad where past their sell by date…a lot of whom we still have….how we’ve not replaced players sold with nowhere near the same quality or managers getting ”the cheaper version” of their targets…I could go on …And two of the worlds best managers who have won trophy’s everywhere they’ve been both end up in despair with us

I bet, come the summer, his remaining supporters will say we’re spending 35 or whatever on Porro so that’s bound to impact on overall budget. Just like they double count on our other arrivals who are loan first pay later.

We’ve fronted two loan fees this window, fkin Bournemouth have invested multiples of this…and in more new players!

Woohoo, we have gone to back to late signings again which has worked an absolute treat for the past 20 years. All is forgiven Mr Levy ?

Hotspur33 said:

This is essentially it.
I’d imagine fans of every other club are scratching their collective heads wondering what it is Spurs fans are so upset about.
There are probably hundreds of posts asking for a RWB. We have just signed one.
There have been quite a few posts asking for a replacement/successor for Son because he is ‘finished’ or ‘done’.
We have signed one.
Ally Gold said in many of his videos that the priorities for this window were a RWB and attacker. That sounds like a plan that was executed.
I’m far more concerned by the performance/mood of our world class coach this season than I am our owners.

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Agree. Spurs fans are also beginning to become a bit of a laughing stock with media and pundits now due to the entitlement. There are ~15 other clubs in the league looking up at spurs, wishing they had CL football, a world class stadium, wishing they could spend ~€100m a season on players. I believe that there was a survey taken recently that plotted Enic out supporters Vs age. Unsurprisingly, the younger generations (under 35) wanted them out and the over 35s less so.

We want a plan on the football side and competent people in place because we want to win. The fact that it's arsenal doing so is annoying but it doesn't change the fact that I would want levy gone regardless

cliff jones said:

I bet, come the summer, his remaining supporters will say we’re spending 35 or whatever on Porro so that’s bound to impact on overall budget. Just like they double count on our other arrivals who are loan first pay later.

We’ve fronted two loan fees this window, fkin Bournemouth have invested multiples of this…and in more

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ReadieSpur said:

Agree. Spurs fans are also beginning to become a bit of a laughing stock with media and pundits now due to the entitlement. There are ~15 other clubs in the league looking up at spurs, wishing they had CL football, a world class stadium, wishing they could spend ~€100m a season on players. I believe that there was a survey taken recently that plotted Enic out supporters Vs age. Unsurprisingly, the younger generations (under 35) wanted them out and the over 35s less so.

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We’re a laughing stock due to our lack of trophies and consistent failure. We’re the only club in the so called big 6 that’s one fuck all for 15 years.

And that’s bollocks Re younger supporters wanting ENIC out - it’s been covered in another thread. Most of the people sat near me in the stadium and all my Spurs supporting pals want them out and all are 40+

Our Matchday revenue covers £100M a season without touching sponsorship, TV money etc so I don’t buy that argument either

edit: apologies @cliff jones i didn’t mean to quote you in this response!

G Ron said:

We’re a laughing stock due to our lack of trophies and consistent failure. We’re the only club in the so called big 6 that’s one fuck all for 15 years.

And that’s bollocks Re younger supporters wanting ENIC out - it’s been covered in another thread. Most of the people sat near me in the stadium and all my Spurs supporting pals want them out and all are 40+

Our Matchday revenue covers £100M a season without touching sponsorship, TV money etc so I don’t buy that argument either

edit: apologies @cliff jones i didn’t mean to quote you in this response!

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The sample size of the poll was larger than the people sat near you to your your mates..

I think whatever happens Levy has to go. The fans have had enough of him. 20 years in charge of a club is a long time and the club needs a change of ideas and direction, the players need the fans onside and while Levy in there we will have a toxic underflow in the ground with the fans that wont go until he does. If he loves the club he should do the right thing and step aside, actually I am sure he does love the club but he needs to see the club at this moment is better off if he moves aside.

ReadieSpur said:

The sample size of the poll was larger than the people sat near you to your your mates..

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Source? What about the poll on here? Someone else made the same comment and came unstuck with the claim that it was predominantly younger members wanting them out. Loads of responses came in from those of us in the older age bracket

G Ron said:

Source? What about the poll on here? Someone else made the same comment and came unstuck with the claim that it was predominantly younger members wanting them out. Loads of responses came in from those of us in the older age bracket

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I'll try and find the link to it. It was discussed on a podcast. It's not an exact science, but there is a trend.

ReadieSpur said:

I'll try and find the link to it. It was discussed on a podcast. It's not an exact science, but there is a trend.

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I honestly believe it’s a moot point at this stage as I’d estimate from polls on here and other social media sites (not the best barometer I know) that 80% of the fanbase are done with these owners (and that’s a conservative estimate as from the polls I’ve seen it’s probably closer to 86%

Over the years I've been up and down on Levy and ENIC.

I don't think anyone should ignore the massive changes that have been made which will hopefully have a huge impact on the future of the club, not least the stadium and the training ground.

But all of that was always argued to be the base from which we could become a more successful football club and that simply isn't happening.

Since Poch left there hasn't been even the hint of a coherent football strategy and that needs to be lead by Levy.

I frankly think Conte is stealing a living by saying he can't manage a team if he isn't given exactly the right players, but Levy knew that about him, hired him and then hasn't spent even close to the money needed to get the most out of a manager we are paying a fortune to.

Put simply we are one of the richest clubs in world football and we operate at nowhere near that level as a football club...and that does fall on Levy.

It won't change because as far as ENIC are concerned he's doing a fabulous job.

But I've never felt so removed from the team on a footballing perspective and I don't think that will improve with Levy in charge.

I want Levy and Enic out. But no matter how numerous the number of fans want them out, they will only go on their own terms.
I must admit that since they took over our club, we have made enormous strides forward. However, in all walks of life and in any given business, after a number of years things start to become stale. The reason for this is because you become reluctant to change what you believe has always worked out relatively well for you over the years.

A prime example of this is in a family run business. When the business owner/s reach the retirement age, the are reluctant to hand over the directorship of their business to younger family members. They firmly believe that once they make way, the business will fail and all will be lost.

Therefore, as much as I want a fresh start and want Levy/Enic to make way and step aside, I believe that no matter how much I scream and shout, they will only leave on their own terms, whenever they want and for the amount of money they will demand.

BorjeSpurs said:

I’ll give you an example. Jump one page back in this thread and you will find a poster who have 7 negative posts on a single page(!).

That is tiring. That is boring.

In the ITK thread you made a comment that even the Lucas replacement (Danjuma who is a far more exciting option) was only a temporary replacement. Here you are trying to add a further negative, when the reality is that an option to buy limits the downside and maximises the upside (see Kulu signing).

Analysing and debating positives and negatives are obviously part of the forum but the repeating of one sentence posts, the bald name calling and trying to purposely look at everything with a negative spin makes it a tiresome read.

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Tbf this is the “ousting of Daniel Levy” thread. It’s hardly going to be a thread full of positivity and optimism. It’s literally a thread of why we should get rid of him and ENIC. On top of that the window just shut so obviously any negativity from our business is going to overflow into this thread. I don’t get why one would be in this thread if they are tired of these sort of posts.

Personally I agree with @rossdapep re Danjuma. Since last summer we have badly needed a rotation option for Kulu. That became even more apparent when he got injured. But instead of bringing one in we impulsively get in a third player who can play LWF. And that’s after spending 60 mil on a player whose big appeal was that he can play LWF and CF. Not only that we’ve only played said player at LWF like 2 or 3 times max. On top of that we then loan out the only other left footed player in the squad leaving us with the reality that Lucas, who hasn’t played more then 2 or 3 games all season, is our only other natural RW. Danjuma has only played RW 19 times in his entire career and Richarlison is awful there as we know so relying on ether of those is just not feasible.

For me that shows a complete lack of planning or strategy. It’s pretty clear that Danjuma was an opportunistic panic buy as we wouldn’t have let it got to the stage it did with Everton if he had been far up the list. Levy obviously didn’t want to commit the funds towards Zaniolo, a player we had been chasing for two consecutive windows and one who plays in the position we most needed, and preferred the low risk loan even tho it was for a player who plays we in position that wasn’t a priority.

This has nothing to do with him as a player or my opinion’s on his ability btw, I hope he does really well for us. However the reality is, we needed, and still need, a number of players badly to improve the squad but LWF was not one of them. And even if you want to say we could do with someone to rotate with Son then maybe we should play our 60 mil signing there first.

As I said, this just signals to me a complete lack of cohesive strategy throughout the club at a point where we really need a clear direction more than ever. Tbh I feel by summer Conte and Paratici will likely both be gone/going which probably feeds into the aimless nature of how we seem to be operating currently (and a lot of the general malaise that’s rife amongst the fans at present) and if that is the case then really there is only one person you can blame imo.