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Jonjo Shelvey never played fornus and he's a midfielderWoogate
King
Gallas
Verts
Toby
Romero
And Voldemort
Jonjo Shelvey never played fornus and he's a midfielderWoogate
King
Gallas
Verts
Toby
Romero
And Voldemort
Not questioning you and thanks for sharing but for me going for Poch as long as we do it very early in summer and give him time to plan his pre season etc would mean it’s not that much of a mess, a mess would be if we do another long drawn out manager search and end up with another waste of time shit manager in Nuno.They are not all on the same page with Poch. But you know how it goes. My opinion, he is seen as a convenient safe bet which will appease fans at the least. There is a reluctance to gamble on unproven managers. What a mess.
Why do people always get into debates of who was better Pele or the Ginger Pele. Why cant we just enjoy them both?I always saw him as more of a natural striker though #gingerpele
But don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?Not questioning you and thanks for sharing but for me going for Poch as long as we do it very early in summer and give him time to plan his pre season etc would mean it’s not that much of a mess, a mess would be if we do another long drawn out manager search and end up with another waste of time shit manager in Nuno.
If we decide Poch is low risk and has unfinished business then as long as we move quickly to do that for me that would be fine.
the real plan is relatively simple to win football matches playing with a bit of panache - the remainder is to move the club forward looking at a transfer plan that is achievable and nurtures talent from both within the club and from outside - Poch has proved that he can do both at least to some degree - we are lucky to have such a clear and outstanding candidateBut don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?
I'd really like the next appointment to be well thought out and have a real plan behind it.
Not if there is reflection on both sides about what they could have done better last time.But don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?
But don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?
I'd really like the next appointment to be well thought out and have a real plan behind it.
I'm slowly coming around to the possibility of Poch returning, if indeed Conte leaves. I keep saying it but as long as Levy is pulling the strings I think any manager coming in is somewhat hamstrung, but at least with Poch he is aware of what he's letting himself in for. Whether you are for or against Mauricio returning, one thing the fan base are all pretty much on the same page about is that we all know MP is a good coach, and he brings with him a decent back room team. Moreso even those that weren't keen on his return would at least get behind him so hopefully it won't be the same level of vitriol at every loss, or even decision, that the fans didn't agree with. My only concern would be that both Manager and Levy would have had to have moved on from his last stint and this would need to be a clean slate. If he did return you'd have to hope that both Levy and Pochettino had learned a few lessons from the last time he was here and can find a way to make sure that things don't reach a stalemate situation and are better next time around.But don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?
I'd really like the next appointment to be well thought out and have a real plan behind it.
Thing is tho, in my opinion to work it would need to be a clean slate with the players as well. As it is we have a number of his team still here and even if we shift some there is no way we shift all. I just cant help but feel when things start going a little sideways then it could cause more issues because of this. As far as i can see the only real benefit to bringing in Poch now would be that he knows Levy and that may help him back stage, but we all know Levy will say anything to a manager in order to sign them up. I still think it would be best for him to come back once he really does have a clean slate on all fronts and he has had some more time managing elsewhere at a real club instead of just the circus that is PSG. Im also very worried about him coming back and us not having DoF, even if he isn't a fan of the set up we really need one especially with him.I'm slowly coming around to the possibility of Poch returning, if indeed Conte leaves. I keep saying it but as long as Levy is pulling the strings I think any manager coming in is somewhat hamstrung, but at least with Poch he is aware of what he's letting himself in for. Whether you are for or against Mauricio returning, one thing the fan base are all pretty much on the same page about is that we all know MP is a good coach, and he brings with him a decent back room team. Moreso even those that weren't keen on his return would at least get behind him so hopefully it won't be the same level of vitriol at every loss, or even decision, that the fans didn't agree with. My only concern would be that both Manager and Levy would have had to have moved on from his last stint and this would need to be a clean slate. If he did return you'd have to hope that both Levy and Pochettino had learned a few lessons from the last time he was here and can find a way to make sure that things don't reach a stalemate situation and are better next time around.
Yeah I completely agree, and also tactically i'm not really sure where Poch is right now. He hasn't really been a high press manager for a while, but that could be down to the players he had at his disposal. I would love us to pick our next manager because we think his tactics would suit us rather than fond memories of times past. Really, if im being ultra critical, there is nothing in the last few years that makes me think Poch is now the man to take us forward, as much as I love the guy.But don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?
I'd really like the next appointment to be well thought out and have a real plan behind it.
I wonder whether Poch has grown and developed as a coach since he left us. He may well have, but PSG is a basket case and impossible to judge him based on that.I'm slowly coming around to the possibility of Poch returning, if indeed Conte leaves. I keep saying it but as long as Levy is pulling the strings I think any manager coming in is somewhat hamstrung, but at least with Poch he is aware of what he's letting himself in for. Whether you are for or against Mauricio returning, one thing the fan base are all pretty much on the same page about is that we all know MP is a good coach, and he brings with him a decent back room team. Moreso even those that weren't keen on his return would at least get behind him so hopefully it won't be the same level of vitriol at every loss, or even decision, that the fans didn't agree with. My only concern would be that both Manager and Levy would have had to have moved on from his last stint and this would need to be a clean slate. If he did return you'd have to hope that both Levy and Pochettino had learned a few lessons from the last time he was here and can find a way to make sure that things don't reach a stalemate situation and are better next time around.
If Jose and Conte can't get that out of Daniel, I doubt anyone can tbh.I wonder whether Poch has grown and developed as a coach since he left us. He may well have, but PSG is a basket case and impossible to judge him based on that.
I see where you're coming from, in the "better the devil you know" sense.
But I'm worried it would slip into a comfortably numb BAU situation, whereas what we really need is a complete shake-up of the football side of things.
Perhaps Poch might be more persuasive in getting what he wants, if he has a closer relationship with Levy? I'm clutching at straws here.If Jose and Conte can't get that out of Daniel, I doubt anyone can tbh.
I've pretty much come around to this viewpoint now too, obviously only on the basis that Conte wants to leave. My only concern is the transfer side of the business. I'm guessing that FP should know where he stands by the summer, hopefully having been cleared to continue in his original capacity - because we desperately need to continue with the current quality of signings we've brought in under his reign. The only dud so far has been Gollini on loan, which really is a pretty good record. And with player like Romero, Bentancur and Deki we have some really good players at well below their current market rates.I'm slowly coming around to the possibility of Poch returning, if indeed Conte leaves. I keep saying it but as long as Levy is pulling the strings I think any manager coming in is somewhat hamstrung, but at least with Poch he is aware of what he's letting himself in for. Whether you are for or against Mauricio returning, one thing the fan base are all pretty much on the same page about is that we all know MP is a good coach, and he brings with him a decent back room team. Moreso even those that weren't keen on his return would at least get behind him so hopefully it won't be the same level of vitriol at every loss, or even decision, that the fans didn't agree with. My only concern would be that both Manager and Levy would have had to have moved on from his last stint and this would need to be a clean slate. If he did return you'd have to hope that both Levy and Pochettino had learned a few lessons from the last time he was here and can find a way to make sure that things don't reach a stalemate situation and are better next time around.
This is where I'm at with the whole thing. Can chuck about manager names that would be "perfect" for us but it almost doesn't matter the pedigree when it's as much about managing the basket-case club as it is managing the team.If Jose and Conte can't get that out of Daniel, I doubt anyone can tbh.
Can completely see where you're coming from mate and yea to an extent it would be seen as a bit of a kop out, at the same time it could work out as a really good move re-hiring someone who did a phenomenal job previously, knows the club and working conditions really well, who the fans adore, who'd bring a positive vibe back to the club and who is motivated to try and win something with a better budget than during their previous stint.But don't you think employing someone because they may have 'unfinished business' is such a kop out?
I'd really like the next appointment to be well thought out and have a real plan behind it.
I'm generally in the "don't go back" camp but as you say, I'd be fully behind Poch the second he came back and massively want him to succeed as he's a legend.I'm slowly coming around to the possibility of Poch returning, if indeed Conte leaves. I keep saying it but as long as Levy is pulling the strings I think any manager coming in is somewhat hamstrung, but at least with Poch he is aware of what he's letting himself in for. Whether you are for or against Mauricio returning, one thing the fan base are all pretty much on the same page about is that we all know MP is a good coach, and he brings with him a decent back room team. Moreso even those that weren't keen on his return would at least get behind him so hopefully it won't be the same level of vitriol at every loss, or even decision, that the fans didn't agree with. My only concern would be that both Manager and Levy would have had to have moved on from his last stint and this would need to be a clean slate. If he did return you'd have to hope that both Levy and Pochettino had learned a few lessons from the last time he was here and can find a way to make sure that things don't reach a stalemate situation and are better next time around.
Says a lot 2 were from the academy, time to step up Mr TangangaTo be fair we've had 4 but we don't talk much about 1 of them
Why do that when you have N'dombele and Lo Celso desperate to come back for a fresh start....?If Poch was to come back the first thing we’d need to do is go all in on James Maddison.