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easley91
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I don't know, because I'm not privy to the inner workings at Chelsea. They only got Auba prior to Potter in the summer, so was it an owner decision out of Potter's hands? They're creating chances, so something is working with the approach play.
Trix
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And the numerous transfer windows at Brighton? I mean I don't mean to point out the obvious but De Zerbi seems to have gotten them scoring...... 39 goals in 22 games whereas the last 2 seasons under Potter it's been 42 in 38 games and 40 in 38 games. I don't know why you are looking for work arounds, he's had numerous windows to bring in players to put the ball in the net and he just hasn't. We are not far off talking about double the goal scoring output. This season he's running at his standard ratio of 1 goal a game
king_yid
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He's definitely reaping the rewards of Potters work, who had them in the top 4 when he left. Could be said they have gone backwards a little since. Would be more fair to compare stats from this season but I do agree with your point about putting the ball in the net.
Real_madyidd
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Come off it. They have only spent 600M on players- how are they supposed to get a striker for that money? What is he supposed to do, use the nearly £100M one they have or the fella signed from Barcelona? I don't know how they cope.
Seriously, they have goals in that team (so did Brighton) he just doesn't get it out of them.
The Scarecrow
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11 of those goals came while Potter was still in charge, making his GPG for Brighton this season 1.83, compared to 1.75 for De Zerbi.
Trix
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I agree, it's wonderfully orchestrated play until they are at the business end of the pitch. This isn't a new criticism I'm aiming at him I said exactly the same when we were floundering around and then appointing Nuno. Nothing has changed since then imo.
Potter's Brighton got 51pts last season and 42 goals (1.1 per game). De Zerbi has managed 16 Prem games, scoring 28 goals (1.75 per game) while getting 22pts (52pts over full season. So a huge improvement in goals scored but it's currently giving the same points output. They had a great start under Potter before he left taking 13 points from 6 games before Potter left and scoring 11 (5 in 1 game).
Potter's Chelsea have 5 wins out of 17 in the prem. 1.23pts per game (47 over a full season). They've scored only 15 goals in those 17 games, less than 1 a game.
Potter's Chelsea have 5 wins out of 17 in the prem. 1.23pts per game (47 over a full season). They've scored only 15 goals in those 17 games, less than 1 a game.
Timberwolf
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Guess the test will be what happens when Potter finally does get a decent striker. Welbeck and Maupay are 8-10 goals per season guys, so no surprise they never scored much at Brighton really. I do recall Brighton missing a shitload of easy chances (a bit like Chelsea recently) and I'm not sure that can be blamed on Potter. A good chance is a good chance, right?
Chelsea's squad does have goals in it and they're definitely underperforming but equally, a bunch of young wingers that don't know the league, Sterling and Havertz - 2 guys who miss sitters for fun - Mount, Gallagher, Pulisic and Ziyech...there's not a reliable finisher among them. Felix looks like their best bet IMO and even he's only ever been prolific for half a season in his career.
Would be curious to see how he does with someone elite - if that doesn't work we know it's definitely a Potter problem.
Chelsea's squad does have goals in it and they're definitely underperforming but equally, a bunch of young wingers that don't know the league, Sterling and Havertz - 2 guys who miss sitters for fun - Mount, Gallagher, Pulisic and Ziyech...there's not a reliable finisher among them. Felix looks like their best bet IMO and even he's only ever been prolific for half a season in his career.
Would be curious to see how he does with someone elite - if that doesn't work we know it's definitely a Potter problem.
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IamSpurtacus
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All this chat about potter and lack of goals means they’ll score three against us on Sunday, doesn’t it?
Trix
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But again how many windows has he had to bring one in at either club? All I keep reading is "yeah but he hasn't got a decent striker" well with Brighton's scouting ability and Chelsea's spending power, why not?
Timberwolf
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Yeah fair point. I guess for a mid-table club like Brighton it's always the most difficult and expensive position to fill but to me it never felt like they prioritised it enough. Locadia and the Iranian guy (not even gonna try to spell his name) were expensive disasters I suppose but they were both more wide forwards I believe?
Fuck knows what Chelsea are doing transfer-wise. Absurd that they've not got a proper goalscorer in there but yeah maybe Potter should've kicked Boehly's door down demanding one given he's apparently got a blank cheque.
Or maybe Potter's just a goal-hating pervert.
RuskyM
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That's barmy. You've also got Nkunku coming in, plus of the players out on loan, you'd say Gusto, Hudson-Odoi and Lukaku would expect to compete for places (Baba Rahman and Bakayoko are somehow still on the books too, interestingly). Then there's interesting players like Maatsen, Colwill and Hutchinson who are the exact kind of players Potter'd worked wonders with at Brighton, but they're not going to get anywhere near the team. It's just excess.
agrdavidsfan
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Potters sides routinely didn't score much goals though even at Swansea his style is a weird one it's high tempo eye catching football but it doesn't really create that many chances they are mainly half chances or snapshots.
I'm sure it was either Rhian Brewster or another young striker maybe Abraham didn't actually enjoy potters system as they argued they were constantly doing runs to make room for other passing angles.
I'm sure it was either Rhian Brewster or another young striker maybe Abraham didn't actually enjoy potters system as they argued they were constantly doing runs to make room for other passing angles.
I know we've had ITK stating that Conte will leave in the summer but part of me still has hope that he'll stay on and sign a new deal.
Hes constantly talked about needing time and several transfer windows to build a legacy so why after a few bad results do the media basically terminate his contract for us? His press conferences have always been a tool he uses to put pressure on the higher ups and players so I'm sure the media just like making headlines from them and don't like the fact that spurs can have a manager of his stature.
Basically what I'm saying is if he's always been calling for time to get things right then why the sudden change to wanting to walk in the summer.
If its due to family and personal reasons then I understand. If its due to footballing reasons then I'd be surprised because he seems to be passionate about managing the club.
Hes constantly talked about needing time and several transfer windows to build a legacy so why after a few bad results do the media basically terminate his contract for us? His press conferences have always been a tool he uses to put pressure on the higher ups and players so I'm sure the media just like making headlines from them and don't like the fact that spurs can have a manager of his stature.
Basically what I'm saying is if he's always been calling for time to get things right then why the sudden change to wanting to walk in the summer.
If its due to family and personal reasons then I understand. If its due to footballing reasons then I'd be surprised because he seems to be passionate about managing the club.
Nick-TopSpursMan
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I think Chelsea have possibly bought Nkunku to play as a false 9 striker and he could well solve their goalscoring problems.
That may be why they didn’t sign a striker.
That may be why they didn’t sign a striker.
DanielJohnCosta
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two-way street, prove to us you deserve the time to get things right. Previous records at other clubs aside the management of the team this year hasn't been anything worthy of his price tag
Ghost Hardware
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Tbh that’s the only semi logical explanation to buying him and Mudryk when they already have Sterling and Mount. Even if Mount leaves they will still be over stacked at LW.
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He proved it last season.
This season hasn't been good but we're currently sitting 4th. Continued progress in CL and FA Cup and finishing top 4 again earns him that time in my opinion.
MR_BEN
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He’s underperformed massively with the squad that he has got.
The football is terrible to watch even when we are winning. Why would we give him more time?
More time - means falling further behind and spending huge amounts of money doing so.
Another year of Conte would set us back 5 years…
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