Exactly this. I can't get my head around people wanting Tuchel.
It has Mourinho/Conte-type appointment written all over it. Why would any Spurs fan want to go through more of that after the last three or four years?
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Exactly this. I can't get my head around people wanting Tuchel.
It has Mourinho/Conte-type appointment written all over it. Why would any Spurs fan want to go through more of that after the last three or four years?
chrisd2k
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He's doing a great job there. There is a big question mark over whether or not he can manage the egos at a bigger club though, something Potter has yet to show too.
I think he could. If he can handle the likes of Toney, Eriksen and even characters like Mee who was a big character at Burnley he will be fine at Spurs. I do like his well known "no d*ckhead policy".
But as i've said before, lets not bring in a manager to change his style in the hope we are attacking and fluid. It's nonsense.
Kingellesar
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Al-Ittihads manager could be worth a look at, they've only lost 1 game this season, second in the league.
In all honestly, I don't think it really matters who we get, we will be in the same position in 18 months, its just a boring cycle now. We won't change as a club unless the change starts at the top.
In all honestly, I don't think it really matters who we get, we will be in the same position in 18 months, its just a boring cycle now. We won't change as a club unless the change starts at the top.
Timberwolf
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Frank's clearly a good manager but makes little sense from a Spurs perspective. If we're not going for a big name, proven winner type manager, we at least need someone who will appease the fans and bring some joy with positive football.
In that sense Frank is the worst of both worlds - pragmatic football without the excitement and pull of a big name. I might've been more up for him if we were in a different place as a club but after the Jose-Nuno-Conte triple threat of 'anti-possession' I'm really adverse to another manager who doesn't prioritise having the ball.
If we're going down the up-and-coming manger route I'd prefer we go with a De Zerbi, Kompany, Gallardo type than a Frank.
In that sense Frank is the worst of both worlds - pragmatic football without the excitement and pull of a big name. I might've been more up for him if we were in a different place as a club but after the Jose-Nuno-Conte triple threat of 'anti-possession' I'm really adverse to another manager who doesn't prioritise having the ball.
If we're going down the up-and-coming manger route I'd prefer we go with a De Zerbi, Kompany, Gallardo type than a Frank.
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ifs perhaps also why Poch suits us more in general. Easy to buy younger players who aren’t quite elite but with good coaching can get there.
With Conte it’s elite players like Barella who we cannot afford but he needs for tactical reasons. Still amazed the club hired Conte if it couldn’t provide what he needs for his system.
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Yeah and Brighton were 4th having just spanked Leicester 5-2. The amount of revisionism on here about where they were as a club and the difference this season between him and Zebri is very strange to say the least. I was at the Leicester game, in fact as I live half the year in Brighton and huge amounts of my friends and family are Brighton I've watched an awful lot of them down the years. Potter is a huge part of the success, obviously the way the club is run is very good but to dismiss Potter as being unimportant in that process as many here shout whenever his name is brought up is simply not valid in my opinion. I mean don't get me wrong, Zebri has done well to keep them from falling further than they have but the the jury is still out for me defensively on him. If Brighton kick on next season then he would be in the running, but I'd take Potter over him to steady the ship and build something lasting here currently.
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I didn’t realise, or maybe I did but forgot, we actually talked to Gallardo in 2021 but he didn’t want to leave River yet. That at least is mildly comforting. One has to hope that if we did then we will again now considering he’s free.
On Poch, if he does come back, then i really hope it’s after we have appointed a new DoF (assuming Paratici goes) as I can’t help but feel that if we haven’t by that point then we won’t. And the idea of Poch and Levy working without a DoF terrifies me.
On Poch, if he does come back, then i really hope it’s after we have appointed a new DoF (assuming Paratici goes) as I can’t help but feel that if we haven’t by that point then we won’t. And the idea of Poch and Levy working without a DoF terrifies me.
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Like others have said, it really doesn’t matter who we appoint. Because he won’t be backed, levy will get involved behind the scenes as he does all the time, and in 12-18 months once the honeymoon period is over this thread will reappear once again.
unless levy steps away, or Enic sell up it’s going to be a vicious cycle that just repeats its self over and over and over.
Personally I’d like a REAL project manager, one where we’d know it’s not gonna be a quick solution, he’s gonna be given time/resources to mould the squad in his style. Even if that means losing some of our fave players (Kane/sonny) etc and really really get behind them.
No more Chelsea rejects, no more elite managers who need 100s of millions of pounds to spend, I’m just utterly utterly bored with the whole thing.
unless levy steps away, or Enic sell up it’s going to be a vicious cycle that just repeats its self over and over and over.
Personally I’d like a REAL project manager, one where we’d know it’s not gonna be a quick solution, he’s gonna be given time/resources to mould the squad in his style. Even if that means losing some of our fave players (Kane/sonny) etc and really really get behind them.
No more Chelsea rejects, no more elite managers who need 100s of millions of pounds to spend, I’m just utterly utterly bored with the whole thing.
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Do we even know if Poch really wants the job?
He hasn't said much recently about football or hasn't been interviewed unless I've missed it.
He hasn't said much recently about football or hasn't been interviewed unless I've missed it.
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I was thinking about Mason as manager. It would be hugely underwhelming for fans and far from everyone happy about it. However when you see how the likes of Xavi and Arteta have done its not that absurd really. If we wanted to go down the project route with a young hungry team he could be in the running. He's worked with Jose and Conte now so is learning well. It still seems too soon though and I think it's much more likely we get Poch with Mason as coach. If it doesn't work out under Poch 2.0 then I would give Mason more consideration. Another couple years learning from Poch off the back of Jose and Conte and he might be ready for it.
mil1lion
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I still find it bizarre he hasn't got a job yet. That just makes me think he's holding out for a return here. Either that or he just needed a break. I doubt he would turn it down though.
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not being contrary but we know that some of those players aren't really good enough and whoever comes in will need to do a reasonable amount of rebuilding and if we lose Kane a large amount - so looking at managers who suit the current squad strikes me as being the wrong way to go - in my view we need a clean brush to come in who is brought in on the back of their own strengths - the good players will survive its the poor ones that get you in trouble
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It is absurd and is a terrible idea. You mention Arteta and Xavi but fail to mention both have been backed to the eyeballs with everything they have asked for by their owners/club president including time. Both of those clubs have set on a defining philosophy and plan to achieve that, and have both given their managers time and resources to get to where they are now. If Conte and Mourinho can't get that kind of backing from Levy then there is zero chance Ryan Mason will.
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I suppose none of us know for sure, but I do get a strong sense that he does want to come back.
On his social media he's always hanging out with Spurs legends, frequenting his old haunts in London, his assistants are liking posts about Spurs. There are many accounts that he wasn't happy with the lack of control at PSG and only then realised how good he had it at Spurs. Then there's him repeatedly turning down job offers since leaving PSG in the knowledge that the Spurs job could soon be available. He's also reportedly back on good terms with Levy and was heavily linked with a return 18 months ago when he was still at PSG.
If it looks like a nostalgia-fuelled return to Spurs and it smells like a nostalgia-fuelled return to Spurs...
Has Enrique ever managed a 'club' team? If so, how did he do?
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I appreciate that your cynicism has come from experience but to try and find some optimism, perhaps Levy has not fully trusted the managers he has hired (an error on his part with Conte in my opinion) and there's a possibility that he does trust Poch meaning he is willing to risk more with that relationship than the others.
I think it's good you highlighted about hoping Poch learnt also, I'm as Poch til I die as anybody but I think that after the champions league final, Poch made some errors in how he handled things and his relationship with the players. Completely understandable that considering the burn-out I'm sure he suffered but I think the experiences since may have allowed Poch to appreciate what he has and enjoy the present rather than concerning himself with what else is to come for him in the future. I want him to back himself but I don't want him to forget to appreciate the team as he did with such errors such as flying back to barca and not with the team. Both Levy and Poch have an opportunity to rewrite some mistakes if that is what happens.
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AVB, Mourinho, Conte.... Tuchel ?? = Chelsea.
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Bit of a paradox with people like Potter and Frank - they don’t have experience managing big players but they won’t get that experience without managing big players. Thinking of managers who moved "up" to the PL in the past decade or so - tell me if I'm forgetting anyone:
Lambert, Norwich -> Villa
Rodgers, Swansea -> Liverpool
Martinez, Wigan -> Everton
Moyes, Everton -> Man United
Poch, Southampton -> Spurs
Koeman, Southampton -> Everton
Silva*, Watford -> Everton
Lampard, Derby -> Chelsea
Potter, Swansea -> Brighton
Arteta, nowhere -> Arsenal
Solskjaer, Molde -> Man United
Rangnick, Russia? -> Man United
ten Hag, Ajax -> Man United
Potter, Brighton -> Chelsea
Jones, Luton -> Southampton
Dyche, Burnley* -> Everton
It's a mixed bag, but Carlo Ancelotti/Jose Mourinho/Thomas Tuchel eventually will retire. You kinda have to take that risk because god knows hoping a winner can win with their winningness isn't working. (For the record I'm still Poch in.)
Incidentally: genuinely a bit weird to me Carlo Ancelotti managed Everton but not us or Arsenal.
Lambert, Norwich -> Villa
Rodgers, Swansea -> Liverpool
Martinez, Wigan -> Everton
Moyes, Everton -> Man United
Poch, Southampton -> Spurs
Koeman, Southampton -> Everton
Silva*, Watford -> Everton
Lampard, Derby -> Chelsea
Potter, Swansea -> Brighton
Arteta, nowhere -> Arsenal
Solskjaer, Molde -> Man United
Rangnick, Russia? -> Man United
ten Hag, Ajax -> Man United
Potter, Brighton -> Chelsea
Jones, Luton -> Southampton
Dyche, Burnley* -> Everton
It's a mixed bag, but Carlo Ancelotti/Jose Mourinho/Thomas Tuchel eventually will retire. You kinda have to take that risk because god knows hoping a winner can win with their winningness isn't working. (For the record I'm still Poch in.)
Incidentally: genuinely a bit weird to me Carlo Ancelotti managed Everton but not us or Arsenal.
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