Trix
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Surely he should just adapt his philosophy to fit the players we have.
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Surely it's just a matter of how he leaves the club now and what the financial compensation will be.
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Surely he should just adapt his philosophy to fit the players we have.
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Timberwolf
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Yeah - knowing Conte he won't make things easy. After what happened at Chelsea and the 26m payout Conte got for unfair dismissal, I imagine we're being very careful about how we handle the situation - especially since we're still currently sitting in 4th spot. Might be best just to put him on gardening leave until the end of the season?
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Interesting article on The Athletic about this today, with a list of the potential candidates.
Amongst the suggestions of the usual suspects (and my God the menu is so much better than it was at the time of desperately scrabbling around and ending up with Nuno), was an interesting idea of getting shot of Paratici (which seems likely anyway), and getting Paul Barber back from Brighton and bringing de Zerbi with him - put Barber in charge of football operations and let Levy concentrate on his go-kart track.
De Zerbi does seem like the forward-looking, accepted-our-station candidate - progressive, young, aggressive, works within a budget, promotes youth etc.
We’ve also tended to do better when poaching a coach from a smaller club and getting them to step up and prove themselves - seems to generate fewer issues with Levy, motivates them and the players they bring in, you get a guy who feels proud and privileged to be here etc.
Bit of a Poch mkII and would be my first choice.
Amongst the suggestions of the usual suspects (and my God the menu is so much better than it was at the time of desperately scrabbling around and ending up with Nuno), was an interesting idea of getting shot of Paratici (which seems likely anyway), and getting Paul Barber back from Brighton and bringing de Zerbi with him - put Barber in charge of football operations and let Levy concentrate on his go-kart track.
De Zerbi does seem like the forward-looking, accepted-our-station candidate - progressive, young, aggressive, works within a budget, promotes youth etc.
We’ve also tended to do better when poaching a coach from a smaller club and getting them to step up and prove themselves - seems to generate fewer issues with Levy, motivates them and the players they bring in, you get a guy who feels proud and privileged to be here etc.
Bit of a Poch mkII and would be my first choice.
fishhhandaricecake
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Its just incredible that Levy is so tone deaf to the fans and media, well he wasn't as he wanted to get Fonseca who actually completely suited the style of play we wanted to see but then he hired Paratici but didn't think that he doesn't fit with the philosophy and DNA of our club.
Now fast forward 18 months, Nuno and Conte have pretty much both been disasters in terms of the mood around the club, surely to goodness Paratici having been there for 18 months will understand this and if not that Levy will state that the next managers style of play simply has to align with what the fans want.
Worrying updated from H88 regarding Paratici's managerial targets not playing the football we want especially if he likely won't even be here in 6 months time, the lack of succession planning or just any sensible planning at all is incredible.
Tbh the way we are run we don't deserve to be 4th, we deserve to be about 10th and if it wasn't for Kane we probably would be about 10th.
What an absolute joke/mess as always.
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Thing is though, we don't have a decent back 3. We need 2 significant upgrades to carry on with this system. If we're going to rebuild our back line we really have carte blanche to go with any system we like which suits any manager we might want. For my money, if we could get a really top LCB like Gvardiol (unlikely, I know) and someone like Maddison, we're good to go with Poch. Not saying that's my top choice, but it doesn't look bad.
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He did a really good job at Celta, that shouldn’t be overlooked. He completely changed the way they played.
BUT as I’ve said before my big big concerns about him is that he can’t actually work outside the Spanish system. He has only spent one year abroad (Roma) his entire career as ether a manager or player and that was a complete and utter flop. Plus the longest he’s lasted at a club was Barca and they looked completely flat and devoid of ideas in his third season and he actually said himself he felt drained by the end.
He would be incredibly risky and I think there is a very good chance he would fail here. He would also need a DoF who is on the same page as him. If Paratici is off then he shouldn’t be considered unless the new DoF wants him to.
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Timberwolf
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Yeah I agree with this. I think he ticks the most boxes, personally.
Given how outright attacking he is I also think he's one of the only candidates that could get away with playing Udogie and Porro/Spence as full-backs in a back 4. To me this is infinitely preferable than bringing in a back 3 manager simply because we've spent lots of money on a bunch of wing-backs.
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Yep, and if he didn't then he'd be a failure just like ConteSurely he should just adapt his philosophy to fit the players we have.
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FP has been brilliant behind the scenes with the youth set up, he's brought in some fantastic players and has also secured top talent such as Sarr and Udogie when a lot of top clubs wanted those players.
However, his managerial targets are somewhat worrying. Spoke to my source early this morning and was given a few more names to add to the two I've consistently mentioned (Tuchel & Enrique). The problem lies where FP has drawn up a list of potential managers, most of which don't play the kind of football Levy (supposedly) and us fans would like to see.
Again, it's all a bit messy where there are too many people involved in the process. It's highly likely FP won't even be here in 6 months time with everything going on so it's just a bit of a mess again.
There are so many problems behind the scenes, it sadly doesn't really matter who comes in as the new manager.
I'll also repeat what I already said last week, Poch would of course love to come back, but I'm told he has his sights firmly set on Madrid currently and there are too many people behind the scenes who would need convincing that bringing him back right now is the right thing to do.
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It's very confusing how Levy can simultaneously be unable to let go of control and feel the need to intervene especially with the recruitment for a manager whilst simultaneously be unable to hire a DoF and get him to work under the remit of the kind of club Levy wants Spurs to be.
I think when you analyse how things go for us you can see plainly the evidence that Levy is a person who is conflicted within himself and doesn't know how to communicate properly a clear through line. It's very clear what he has to do is to make clear the manifesto to his DoF and then he wouldn't have to intervene because what he wants in recruitment and management would be flowing straight from his origin source if he correctly communicated at the Chairman to DoF part of the chain what type of team he wants. It's clear Paratici can work this way because when it comes to recruitment, he secured; Sarr, Udogie and Gill, personally I'd include Spence in that because if we get the manager right, my word has the structure given them some raw materials to work with but it only transpires if the management recruitment is cohesive. I will say that Paratici clearly has responsibility to, it's shocking he needs to be told that he should probably hire managers that fit his recruitment style but it's Levy's responsibility to ensure he's told. The same as the Conte/Player communication problem.
wrd
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Plus the whole Ten Hag lacks charisma travesty. That feels so much like a parody that I'd have thought David Squires came up with it for his cartoon.
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I think it’s a lovely idea in theory but I think the reality of it would be too difficult to pull off. For a start I don’t see Di Zerbi leaving before the end of the season, if at all, and I would be very surprised if Barber would be willing to come back.
I think at this point the whole world knows Levy just can’t help himself so the idea of being given free reign re football matters is a fantastical one. The Jose/Nuno/Conte trifecta will have probably gone some way to proving how badly run we are to many, maybe not to Lewis is his ivory boat but to those in the football world.
Plus on top of all that I think Brighton would fight tooth and nail to keep both at least a little longer. I know RDZ has a release clause but even so they will probably offer him a rise or something. Even financially I can’t see it being an easy deal to do.
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Or we could find a manager who's more adaptableSurely he should just adapt his philosophy to fit the players we have.
Bobbins
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I agree it’s likely not plausible, especially the idea of getting Barber back, but I can dream! It’s a nice distraction from our reality…
wrd
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In all honesty, I think we need to stop looking at managers for their tactical set up and we need to look for the Fergie style of management, which is human focused, adaptable tactics. Poch was in this mould, Redknapp was in this mould. I'm not saying they are the same level as fergie (I know where I'm posting so I'll make that clear) but we need a manager who knows how to make the best of what they have and keep all the players on side even when they're on the bench, make the players feel trusted. If we focus on tactical approach, our squad will never fit the needs because we're always lurching from one disaster to the next, we need somebody who opens the fridge that is our squad and can make a meal no matter what they find. If the trait of our next manager is rigidity, whether they're attacking, defensive, counter, 3-4-3, 4-4-3, christmas pudding, it doesn't matter, they will fall flat imo because this club needs somebody who can adapt. That's why as funny as it sounds, that Fonseca would have probably been a good appointment but I'd say that Gallardo has shown he has that flexibility.
Trix
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Should be easy, Levy is such a good judge when it comes to these important decisions.
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Pretty much the dream scenario as it stands which means it won't happen as we're not allowed nice things.
Brighton showing us how it should be done both in terms of recruiting managers and players.
He must take after his son, after the excellent choice in fire alarm system….
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