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Bluto Blutarsky · May 22, 2023

Thenewcat said:
The Dutch league is very comparable to France. They are slightly behind on UEFA coefficient but most of that is PSG

I had to look this up - and its true - about being comparable to Ligue 1

It also reminded me of everyone who wanted Potter, who once finished 1st in the 3rd division of 22nd ranked Sweden. I think winning Eredivisie is a tad bit tougher.

WiganSpur · May 22, 2023

I don't think you get the results Slot has in his career thus far if you're all just about a philosophy either. Clearly he must be good at adapting to in game scenarios.

Yiddo100 · May 22, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
I had to look this up - and its true - about being comparable to Ligue 1

It also reminded me of everyone who wanted Potter, who once finished 1st in the 3rd division of 22nd ranked Sweden. I think winning Eredivisie is a tad bit tougher.

Did a bit more than that though didn’t he

Timberwolf · May 22, 2023

WiganSpur said:
I don't think you get the results Slot has in his career thus far if you're all just about a philosophy either. Clearly he must be good at adapting to in game scenarios.

Yeah there were interesting quotes about this in one of the recent articles about him. He's not an absolute purist and is willing to mix things up against different opposition.

Slot has not gained the backing of these players just by being straightforward, though. The players like him because they win under him. But, perhaps more than that, they follow him because most of the things he tells them come true.

“Before the game against Marseille (in the Europa Conference League) last season, during training he told his midfielders to play long balls out to the wingers, over the top,” explains Krabbendam. “(Orkun) Kokcu, the midfielder, was so tired of it — he asked: ‘Why do we have to keep playing these long balls?’. Slot said he would explain later.

“In 20 minutes, Feyenoord were up 2-0 and both goals came from long balls behind the Marseille defence. He knew that was a weakness of Marseille. If you speak to the Feyenoord players — and it doesn’t matter which players — they will tell you that whatever this coach says, it happens. It’s remarkable. They have blind confidence in him because what he says comes true.”

ntmac82 · May 22, 2023

worcestersauce said:
Nevertheless he took an unfancied team and won it at a canter and held up well in the Europa taking Roma to extra time in Rome having reached the Conference league final last year so there are opportunities to make valid comparisons which do show him in a favourable light.

Where am I criticising the achievements? I was giving an opinion on the quality of the league's.

Slot has achieved a great deal in his short managerial career but doesn't mean he is my preferred option.

Finchyid · May 22, 2023

worcestersauce said:
So for our new managerial position we are choosing between the man who won the Dutch title, the man who who would have won the Bundesliga title had he still been there and the man who just won the French title.
On the face of it that doesn't seem bad does it?

Surely they are 1 team leagues tho??

ntmac82 · May 22, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
I had to look this up - and its true - about being comparable to Ligue 1

It also reminded me of everyone who wanted Potter, who once finished 1st in the 3rd division of 22nd ranked Sweden. I think winning Eredivisie is a tad bit tougher.

The Potter bashing begins

Thenewcat · May 22, 2023

Yiddo100 said:
Did a bit more than that though didn’t he

He did, but I think the point is selecting a single arbitrary criteria then using it to ‘prove’ your preferred point of view isn’t valid. There is nothing wrong with thinking De Zerbi is a better bet because of his impressive results in top leagues with low budget clubs, and there’s nothing wrong with preferring slot because he’s won stuff. But announcing either has a better pedigree than the other is a nonsense because there isn’t a definition of what constitutes manager pedigree.

Finchyid · May 22, 2023

Albertbarich said:
Don't forget 'Yid Arne' as a chant.

You could also adapt we sang it in France end to be the thing Arne loves is being a yid

tubbygold · May 22, 2023

Albertbarich said:
Don't forget 'Yid Arne' as a chant.

Nobody would be able to tell the difference though

$hoguN · May 22, 2023

Been through the last few pages and it really seems like we have two options in Slot and Nagelsmann. No clue why people are mentioning other managers.

there is an awful lot to like about either but the more I see of Slot, the more impressed I am. The other thing to say is that the stuff I keep reading about data driven is absolutely daft. All recruitment is data driven, the question is whether that is qualitative or quantitative. Either way it’s not a panacea

Luka Van der Bale · May 22, 2023

garyhopkins said:
I keep seeing the McClaren and de Boer comparisons, so I checked some figures and Slot has the 4th highest points per game in Eredivisie history. De Boer is 9th, Erik Ten Hag 11th, Bobby Robson 12th, Louis Van Goal 14th, Mclaren 16th and Ronald Koeman 17th.

Slot is up there at the top with Guus Hiddink, Johan Cruyff, Roger Schmidt and Rinus Michele amongst others. Theres no doubt that a lot of fine teams and/or trophies have been produced elsewhere by that lot.

Just saying...

This sounds really interesting - are you able to confirm where you found these stats? Wouldn't mind having a look.

All in on Slot - let's get him wrapped up!

barry · May 22, 2023

garyhopkins said:
I keep seeing the McClaren and de Boer comparisons, so I checked some figures and Slot has the 4th highest points per game in Eredivisie history. De Boer is 9th, Erik Ten Hag 11th, Bobby Robson 12th, Louis Van Goal 14th, Mclaren 16th and Ronald Koeman 17th.

Slot is up there at the top with Guus Hiddink, Johan Cruyff, Roger Schmidt and Rinus Michele amongst others. Theres no doubt that a lot of fine teams and/or trophies have been produced elsewhere by that lot.

Just saying...

To do that without ever managing Ajax, or to a lesser extent PSV, is super impressive

mil1lion · May 22, 2023

Poch had only managed Espanyol and Southampton without achieving anything special. Redknapp had never managed one of the top teams. Jol didn't have any major first team managerial experience. My 3 favourite managers. Oh but Ramos won the UEFA Cup with Sevilla, AVB managed an elite Chelsea squad, Conte and Jose have won countless trophies. It doesn't really matter what level Slot has achieved at. The most important thing is whether we feel he is the right fit for this club.

Tucker · May 22, 2023

barry said:
To do that without ever managing Ajax, or to a lesser extent PSV, is super impressive

In fairness Steve McLaren did it with FC Twente. Which is one hell of an achievement. He was a good manager, but he was never right for England, and he’s obviously a bit out dated now. Think he gets an unfair reputation though as he comes across as a bit of a weirdo/clown.

Ron Burgundy · May 23, 2023

Tucker said:
In fairness Steve McLaren did it with FC Twente. Which is one hell of an achievement. He was a good manager, but he was never right for England, and he’s obviously a bit out dated now. Think he gets an unfair reputation though as he comes across as a bit of a weirdo/clown.

Totally fair. He did so the Schteeeve interview though, which is fucking hilarious

Tucker · May 23, 2023

Ron Burgundy said:
Totally fair. He did so the Schteeeve interview though, which is fucking hilarious

He must have been doing that for a bet or something. Unless he really is barking mad.

taidgh · May 23, 2023

Tucker said:
He must have been doing that for a bet or something. Unless he really is barking mad.

It's incredibly easy to slip into your non-native accent after you've lived somewhere for a bit. I think too few people in England realize this (read into this what you will), so he got pilloried for that interview.

robotsonic · May 23, 2023

taidgh said:
It's incredibly easy to slip into your non-native accent after you've lived somewhere for a bit. I think too few people in England realize this (read into this what you will), so he got pilloried for that interview.

Absolutely this. If you speak to anyone from another country regularly you very quickly tailor the way that you speak to make it easier for them to understand either in pronunciation of sentence structure. Fucking easily done, especially if you're just doing your job and not worrying about people seeing a video of you doing your job and looking to call you a knob for it.

FloridaSpur · May 23, 2023

I watched thee Feyenoord games over the weekend, Utrecht, Excelsior, and the best of the lot Go Ahead Eagles.

I could see that though the basic formation lines up pretty much the same, the side play a variety of the press (without the ball) and certainly play a high line with the ball as well as keep wide players wide.

Geertrudia, Wieffer and my pick of the lot and Gimenez (yes please Levy)! would be a great addition!

If we Levy lands him he could well be the answer to our issues, an old, languid squad where a lot of players have truly outstayed their welcome by a season or three.

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