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fishhhandaricecake · May 26, 2023

spursfan77 said:
Sounds like pointed comments towards levy there. No chance he’s getting the job with that much straight talking and sense!

He speaks so well and Mason’s vision for Spurs is so aligned with what the fans want it’s just a shame it’s a bit too soon for him, but I really hope his words as listened to by Levy during this manager search and moving forwards.

robertgoulet · May 26, 2023

spursfan77 said:
So would have appointing Poch, but he didn’t want to do that.

I think there were enough people that thought rehiring Poch would be a terrible idea (I'm one) that this isn't a given.

I'd guess JN had(has) the most support across the fan spectrum of anyone.

Oh Teddy Teddy · May 26, 2023

ravenspurs said:
Exactly. Why is that? What Gallardo did at River Plate winning 2 Copa Libertadores is about a billion times more impressive and difficult than anything Postecoglou has done his entire career. It's ridiculous.

Is it actually? FWIW, Carlos Bianchi won it 4 times, and from what I can see, his stints in Europe (at Roma and Atletico) were extremely short-lived. Abel Ferreira has won it the last two years in a row; I'm not seeing anyone clambering to bring him in.

This isn't to say Gallardo isn't a great option – I'd be as excited about him as I would be Ange; I'm just not sure how his Argentinian cups stand out much more than Postecoglou winning abroad in Scotland, Japan and Australia (domestic and internationally). Their leagues – from what I can see – are ranked very similarly.

AngryBob · May 26, 2023

I reckon he's as fed up as the rest of us, it feels like there is a collective effort to shine the light on Levy. Jose, Vega and now this from Mason - have the tables turned?

Nerine · May 26, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Some great points from Mason, I hope he and Kane etc are making these abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

Are these quotes recent?

If so, it seems he's aware that he's not getting the gig.

It also seems like a thinly veiled dig at the board, which, for such a club guy, is quite brave of ol' Mase.

He defo knows the score, though.

fishhhandaricecake · May 26, 2023

Nerine said:
Are these quotes recent?

If so, it seems he's aware that he's not getting the gig.

It also seems like a thinly veiled dig at the board, which, for such a club guy, is quite brave of ol' Mase.

He defo knows the score, though.

From today's presser mate. Tbh he's being saying similar in all his pressers prior to this but he expanded a bit today and made it a bit clearer rather than being more vague and sitting on the fence.

I think he'll have known from day 1 that he wasn't going to get the job but he is a lifelong spurs fan and wants the best for the club and can clearly see what the problem has been so he's speaking up about it.

That is why I think the fact we went after Slot is really positive because it showed we'd learnt lessons and were going after exactly the right type of Manager, what remains to be seen is that now that's not worked can we pivot to a similarly good option such as Naglesmann or big Ange etc or will we dither and end up with one who doesn't play such nice football and isn't such a good fit, so the proof will be in the pudding so to speak / actions speak louder than words...

What Mason and Kane have been saying recently along with us going for Slot give me crumbs of hope to cling onto that Levy and the board are trying to change, whether or not they can execute and get a good fit suitable Manager and DofF over the line remains to be seen.

jakuba · May 26, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Some great points from Mason in today's presser, I hope he and Kane etc are making these points abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

Fair play to Mason, he’ll know this is stepping on their toes and probably not making him the board’s favourite person which can’t help any ambition he had of getting the permanent job.

It’s one thing to have pundits and fans putting your actions under the microscope. But someone who’s bailed them out in the past by taking the interim job to criticise them is really hard to ignore.

Inq · May 26, 2023

tottenhamlad said:
Nagelsmann/Ragnick (DOF).

Best option.

best option is whatever keeps that little bald goblin and his “advisers” away from anything football related.

sidford · May 26, 2023

This will definitely get a load of negative reps but I 100% believe this.
Unfortunately we are not in a position to turn up our noses at most managers these days and that includes managers who have been successful in lower ranked leagues like Holland and Scotland.
We have had ITK here today that alot ot managers (and directors) are turning us down flat. As Ramon Vega tweeted yesterday we are viewed as a shit show and the word is very much out on our board & chairman.
For people turning their nose up at likes of Ange it might be difficult to hear but he might not actually want the job, he'll at best get one chance in Premier League so if he joins our shit show his odds aren't great at making a success of it & he probably wouldn't get another chance.
The same people who say Ange isn't good enough probably wrongly assumed that if we click our fingers we could get a manager from Holland as well, how has that worked out.
Unfortunately what we will be left with to pick from is same as 2021, someone in desperate need to rebuild a reputation or for a payday.
It's actually fucking depressing even reading this back but this is where we are now and only likely to get worse.

Harrier · May 26, 2023

Littleharry · May 26, 2023

My friend is a Celtic fan, he loves Ange . Says he is ultra attacking but team can’t defend. We are half way there with a team that can t defend so half his job is already done.

Krafty · May 26, 2023

ukdy said:
Slot new contract wirh Feyenoord. Official.

€5m clause now removed.

And on that news Levy steps in with a £4m offer for Slot

RJR1949 · May 26, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Some great points from Mason in today's presser, I hope he and Kane etc are making these points abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

Mason is spot on.

KaribYid · May 26, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Some great points from Mason in today's presser, I hope he and Kane etc are making these points abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

Fair play to Mase for saying this.

Literally everyone can see what our issues are except those responsible for fixing them. It's so incredibly frustrating.

Whazam · May 26, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Some great points from Mason in today's presser, I hope he and Kane etc are making these points abundantly clear to Levy and the board. It would seem so given we targeted Slot so strongly.

How much work does this squad need in the transfer window once the new manager comes in to make it compete again?

Of course I think there is work because we have a big squad, a lot of players on loan and decisions to make. First of all there is a lot of decisions to make about our current squad. That's probably the priority. I think the most important work is probably away from the transfer window right now because you need a manager in place, you need commitment, you need an idea to know where you go. You can't do transfer business without a manager because it might not fit his idea. At the moment I believe we need an idea of what we want to do, who we want to be and stick to it. Recruit people for that and ultimately recruit players for that.

You spoke about a succession plan for players but also staff?

Yeah, I did say not just players, it's members of staff as well. If you want to be a successful football club on the pitch then everyone working for the organisation within the football club has to be on board with what we are and who we are. I think that when you have an idea of that, when people leave, it is probably for easier to pick people to come in and I think it makes it a lot more fluid and easy to plan for these type of things. I hope going forward that's definitely the case.

My view is quite clear in terms of we've probably had two or three different styles of football in the last two or three years and I don't think that is good for any squad of players or for fans.

Maybe he should be up for the DoF position istead of the manager role.

Wadec · May 26, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
And in theory kane should finish all the tons of chances his teams create #xGFC

I actually don’t think Potter would be a good idea mostly because I really don’t want yet another ex Chelsea hire and also I think his personality is quite dull and boring and he won’t uplift the club but I agree with you that as a coach he might have grown from the Chelsea experience and we shouldn’t write coaches / players off without looking at the whole picture.

Actually wouldn't mind Potter. I think he had a real tough gig at Chelsea. With the condensed season due to the world cup he didn't get much time to work with the players. He's shown at Swansea and Brighton he can get his sides playing great football and he is an excellent coach. I also think Chelsea was by far the worst move for him to a team in the big 6. Think he suits all the others better.

That being said, you make an excellent point about personality. Think we need a big personality to help with the situation at the club right now. We need someone to inspire the fan base to get behind another long term project. I personally feel JN is the only one who meets the brief, maybe Poch but that won't happen at this stage. Anyone else we go for is going to have a 'hole' in their CV somewhere. Whether that's experience, personality, achievements, style of play etc. With all that considered it seems crazy to me we aren't banging JN door down.

mil1lion · May 26, 2023

It's just sad seeing these names now when there were/are such good ones available

Metalhead · May 26, 2023

mil1lion said:
It's just sad seeing these names now when there were/are such good ones available

Who would you like from the remaining options?

GMI · May 26, 2023

Whazam said:
Maybe he should be up for the DoF position istead of the manager role.

Can’t be any worse that Marc Noble at West Ham.

WiganSpur · May 26, 2023

RJR1949 said:
Mason is spot on.

I like it just wish he'd have gone fuck it and really twisted the knife. Not quite a knockout blow but we'll take it, clearly gives a toss about the supporters.

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