rossdapep
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Ghost Hardware
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I know your also a big big fan of his to. I will never not be equally amazed and frustrated that we aren’t seriously looking at him. I’d get it if Nagelsnann was still a real option but at this point, looking at other possible candidates, I can’t see a valid reason unless he has told us to do one in which case i probably have even more respect for him
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Tucker
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I was impressed by the use of “dork” not seen that insult used since the 90s.
septicsac
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Looks like we may have to start scrapping the bottom of some barrels real soon, people write of managers like Ange, when in reality it is more likely they write us off first!
Gallardo - Is there even a remote chance, no viable links?
RDZ - Throw the kitchen sink at him, kidnap him, do whatever it takes, but highly unlikely....pfft
Naggs - Similar to RDZ, available, but like the hot brass at a disco likely has his eyes set on safer bigger clubs.
Ange - Like his football, but huge risk, Celtic may do the scottish treble, but struggled big time in Europe, albeit with far lesser players.
LE - Just not worth the risk, apart from that Barca team he has not exactly pulled up tress and similar to Naggs likely to have his eyes on safer bigger clubs.
Potter - A dwindling star currently, though made a good name at Brighton, my concern is his Brighton team were ultra safe, scored very little, can we stomach a more over cautious, low scoring season? RDZ has more than doubled their goal stats without losing out at the other end.
IMO our choices will lessen shortly, if we could not coax Slot out of Feyenord then we have serious issues. We are a managerial graveyard, no DOF, a chairman renowned for letting down managers, a star player in the last year of his contract and issues throughout the team, needing at least 5 first team players in this summer, not squad players, starters.
There are only two ways out of this:
1. Young inexperienced manager willing to work on a small budget/youth/what we currently have, willing to put up with Levys crap in an effort to build his career, aka likes of Mason/Carrick etc - huge risks here, as we all know the state of our squad.
2. You throw serious money at it and get a RDZ/Naggs and give them the biggest budget we have ever put up. Again huge risk and unlikely to happen.
No wonder it is taking Levy so long, no one wants to talk to him and those who do are not telling him what he wants to hear.
Gallardo - Is there even a remote chance, no viable links?
RDZ - Throw the kitchen sink at him, kidnap him, do whatever it takes, but highly unlikely....pfft
Naggs - Similar to RDZ, available, but like the hot brass at a disco likely has his eyes set on safer bigger clubs.
Ange - Like his football, but huge risk, Celtic may do the scottish treble, but struggled big time in Europe, albeit with far lesser players.
LE - Just not worth the risk, apart from that Barca team he has not exactly pulled up tress and similar to Naggs likely to have his eyes on safer bigger clubs.
Potter - A dwindling star currently, though made a good name at Brighton, my concern is his Brighton team were ultra safe, scored very little, can we stomach a more over cautious, low scoring season? RDZ has more than doubled their goal stats without losing out at the other end.
IMO our choices will lessen shortly, if we could not coax Slot out of Feyenord then we have serious issues. We are a managerial graveyard, no DOF, a chairman renowned for letting down managers, a star player in the last year of his contract and issues throughout the team, needing at least 5 first team players in this summer, not squad players, starters.
There are only two ways out of this:
1. Young inexperienced manager willing to work on a small budget/youth/what we currently have, willing to put up with Levys crap in an effort to build his career, aka likes of Mason/Carrick etc - huge risks here, as we all know the state of our squad.
2. You throw serious money at it and get a RDZ/Naggs and give them the biggest budget we have ever put up. Again huge risk and unlikely to happen.
No wonder it is taking Levy so long, no one wants to talk to him and those who do are not telling him what he wants to hear.
Or, presumably, at least a middle option, someone reasonably experienced that you throw a semi-serious amount of money at. This does not mean i approve of this option (lest i am slain by black t- shirt adolescent angst goths), but just trying to be rational.
Kirito
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I reckon Levy has a contract with the bookies to drag this on as long as possible. Throw out as many names as possible and then hire someone who’s never been in contention until the last minute. Best odds you’ll get are 1/10 as it’s almost a done deal. Bookies rake in all the money, Levy gets a %
Trent Crimm
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Great to see Tuchel cut out the middleman that’s spurs and just go to Bayern directly and win shit clever bloke.
Yup the sums it up perfectly. They polishing a turd. Potter in the 2021 debacle & now Ange.... Then the same supporters will argue Levy has no vision blah blah blah..... yet they too are settling for underwhelming targets.
Ange Postecoglu shouldn't be anywhere near our club.
Bluto Blutarsky
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We've been at this so long, I almost forgot Tuchel was once momentarily on "The List"
Ask any Everton fan how did they arrive in their current mess..... poor decision making at the top and appointing 2 managers who so many fans clamoured for who were not the right fit.
I don'twant to see us there...... we must get it right.
I don'twant to see us there...... we must get it right.
robertgoulet
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Not just on the list but the favorite!
Bluto Blutarsky
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Getting the manager "right" is one of the least of our worries.
Backing the manager should be the top of our worries. Because if Levy does not back the manager with the caliber of player he needs - it is doomed to failure. As long as Levy thinks he knows best, we are going to struggle.
I'm going to disagree ever so slightly with you.... we shouldn't be backing the manager with the player he wants. We need a DOF to shape the squad and the manager to coach/ train them...
Our bloated ineffective squad is because we backed the manager for a specific player....
Poch - Lo Celso, Ndombele,
Mourinho- Rodon
Conte - Perisic
These 4 come to mind.... let's get the structures right and identify the talent we want to acquire then tweak ever so slightly based on the squad needs.... not based solely on a managers whims. Managers come and go.
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Good observation Trix. Not often
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cliff jones
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half-backed at best, then sacked, you must mean. JM didn't ask for Rodon.
this is why we need a project manager this time, who plays good football- give the new man his own choice of GK, CB, AM, then stay out of the way
I thought he mis spelt dark !
aussiespursguy
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That's better.
See you can use his name!
We are going to need a generational manager to cope with the shitty circumstances Levy will put them under.
Ange has everything set up for him at Celtic, huge budget compared to rest of league (bar Rangers) and club with a strong recent history of success.
Doesn't mean he isnt a good coach, Guardiola is an amazing coach but its all set up for him. Guardiola would struggle under Levy.
We had Conte who is not far behind the level of Pep, he won everywhere yet Conte couldn't get anything out of a messy squad. Its like Romero, Romero is a great player but you surround him with shit, he will begin to look shit. Romero great when he first came but slowly been ground down by the fact the squad is average and a mess.
What i am trying to say is that unless there is a top top manager that can overcome this bullshit then it doesn't matter who we get, you can argue about Ange or Frank but in reality it doesn't matter, they will be made to look worse coaches than they are.
That's why i was looking forward to Nagelsmann because he is one of the fee top tier managers that can overcome the bullshit. If we get an average manager in it will go south fast. Starting to think Mourinho and Conte did excellent jobs to keep us vaguely competitive.
Ange has everything set up for him at Celtic, huge budget compared to rest of league (bar Rangers) and club with a strong recent history of success.
Doesn't mean he isnt a good coach, Guardiola is an amazing coach but its all set up for him. Guardiola would struggle under Levy.
We had Conte who is not far behind the level of Pep, he won everywhere yet Conte couldn't get anything out of a messy squad. Its like Romero, Romero is a great player but you surround him with shit, he will begin to look shit. Romero great when he first came but slowly been ground down by the fact the squad is average and a mess.
What i am trying to say is that unless there is a top top manager that can overcome this bullshit then it doesn't matter who we get, you can argue about Ange or Frank but in reality it doesn't matter, they will be made to look worse coaches than they are.
That's why i was looking forward to Nagelsmann because he is one of the fee top tier managers that can overcome the bullshit. If we get an average manager in it will go south fast. Starting to think Mourinho and Conte did excellent jobs to keep us vaguely competitive.
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