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Metalhead

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Jaffer99 said:
Levy and his antics have destroyed me, I really don’t care how we do tomorrow, I have got to the stage where I just don’t think about Tottenham anymore, that is what Levy has done to me. Shame as I had a season tickets for over 20 years, but he turned our club into a pile of shit and a laughing stock.
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Shame in a way because the arrival of Ange does bring with it a sense of optimism. Most people are not oblivious to Monsieur Levy and his blind approach to running a football club but the feeling was that getting someone like Ange who will bring a style that will be far more watchable than the last few seasons is a reason to feel more positive.
 
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Metalhead said:
Shame in a way because the arrival of Ange does bring with it a sense of optimism. Most people are not oblivious to Monsieur Levy and his blind approach to running a football club but the feeling was that getting someone like Ange who will bring a style that will be far more watchable than the last few seasons is a reason to feel more positive.
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Unfortunately, Levy killed that optimism with his decision on Thursday. For me, that was the final straw.

It's time for him to go.
 
Metalhead

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dvdhopeful said:
A serious question, and I'm as angry as anyone that arguably our finest ever player has just been forced to leave because of ENIC's management and lack of footballing ambition of our beloved club, but does anyone see anything changing until such time as they get the offer they want?

I do not see this changing, hitting them in the pocket, in my opinion, will achieve nothing simply because you will never get together a large enough group that will remain away from the stadium for long enough for it to matter and not buying drinks etc just won't cut deep enough.

Making the ground so toxic that it becomes big media news might bring enough bad publicity that they want out but the detriment to the team would be massive and again, not sure you could get enough people together to make it stick.

Might be wrong, but in this situation, protests outside the ground, why? No cost to ENIC, little or no publicity.

The United fans have been desperate to get the Glazers out for years and still can't.

I feel a little helpless and very hopeless at our club - honestly, how does this change? It's been 20 fucking years ...
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Nope - I think that the best that we can hope for is Ange bringing to Spurs what Poch did for those brilliant seasons (albeit with a couple of trophies).
 
dontcallme

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Russ1201 said:
Just varying opinions about Levy mate.
This is why i think we will never be challenging for trophies under Levy because the fans are devided about Levy and he knows whatever terrible footballing decision he makes the fans will not strongly protest like other top teams.
All fans should have opinions though so catch 22.
Anyway more importantly we all need to get behind tge team tomorrow in the stadium as it isn't the players or manager fault they need our support. COYS
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Which I think most agree with.

But some posters make absolutely nonsensical attacks on him and when posters like myself point out it’s incorrect, somehow people think we’re defending Levy as a whole or we’re on his side.
 
Metalhead

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Schultz said:
Unfortunately, Levy killed that optimism with his decision on Thursday. For me, that was the final straw.

It's time for him to go.
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I don't disagree but it's like groundhog Day isn't it. If we all paid a pound each. for the Levy out posts on here over the last couple of seasons, we could buy a majority share in the club.
 
yido_number1

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NEVILLEB said:
We don’t seem to be in the market for top players anymore. Not even young British up and comers like Defoe, Keane, Bale, etc.

Even when we were shite we could get a Ginola, Klinsmann or Ziege.
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Don't want to defend Levy but id put Maddison in that bracket.
 
yido_number1

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Jaffer99 said:
Levy and his antics have destroyed me, I really don’t care how we do tomorrow, I have got to the stage where I just don’t think about Tottenham anymore, that is what Levy has done to me. Shame as I had a season tickets for over 20 years, but he turned our club into a pile of shit and a laughing stock.
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I can't stand levy but I really want Ange to do well. We all know how it will end but hopefully he can do something against the odds now.
 
SirHarryHotspur

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NEVILLEB said:
We don’t seem to be in the market for top players anymore. Not even young British up and comers like Defoe, Keane, Bale, etc.

Even when we were shite we could get a Ginola, Klinsmann or Ziege.
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We have just signed Ashley Phillips , isn't he up and coming British and a small correction Robbie Keane is not British.
 
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I’m actually starting to love levy again his made us what we are we are up there with the best in revenue, he will get it right I trust him
 
nailsy

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ExpatFan said:
Another sensible, well-argued critique of Levy and his business model again neg-repped.
Just how many relatives does Levy have on this forum?
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I don't think a disagree is a neg rep. I don't know why so many people have to call others out for disagrees. No one ever asks why someone has given them an agree.
 
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I’m happy to weigh in. I’m not pro Levy as such, but consider myself quite balanced.

im gutted Kane has gone but I fully expected it. He clearly felt he had a gentleman’s agreement to go in ‘21 and was badly or not advised on how to deal with it and as a result lost a lot of credibility. He’s better advised now and in my view always intended on going when practical as he lost the trust in Levy - said Gentleman’s Agreement.

let’s keep in context - I’ve had some amazing nights over the last 10 years, CL runs, 2 title tilts, almost always in Europe - we’ve lifted from mid table to top 5 and been there consistently despite being up against clubs backed by crazy billionaires or countries or institutionally wealthy clubs like Liverpool and Man Utd with global brands. We’re up there now in revenue streams and scale of club.
We’re well set to go again- we’re in a rebuild but the difference is that we now have the resource to rebuild.

People talk about us being the 9th richest club but that doesn’t mean we have loads of cash to throw around for now - it’ll come. The club clearly doesn’t want to extend debt short term which I understand so access to cash when we’re not turning real profits coming out of Covid - it’s changing now though - that’s why we keep doing loans with obligation to defer the payment and avoid borrowing.

The Kane sale is hard to take but I have no doubt it’ll be invested back in the squad - and the fact we’ve got majority up front is huge too, it means we can spend more if we structure the incoming payments over a few years.

my main gripe is that the club/Levy just made bad decisions recently;

- 2019 buys for Poch we’re poor but Poch was backed then finally.
- hiring 2 win now managers who just didn’t fit the club or the players we had.
- the Nuno episode
- the Stelini decision
- not finding a way to tie down Kane

I don’t agree with any of these decisions but I can see a logic, albeit flawed for each. I think Levy has the right intentions but has made some terrible decisions.

we’ve gone up from mid table to top end and like a lot of teams struggling to find the right formula to get over the final hurdle.

we’re back to what we should be now and we go again.

let’s get behind the club and team again - the toxicity does us no good
 
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Levy's mismanagement, particularly recently, has been clear to see.

The problem so many of you now have is that you're seeing every decision through the lens of "Levy is killing our club".

Kane told Ange in May he wanted to leave. He refused to sign a new deal. What was Levy meant to do beyond trying to get the best fee? Particularly as we have more pressing areas of the squad to address before a "replacement", given we signed an expensive striker last summer.

I have no doubt that, had we held onto Kane for a year, many would have said "it was the first year of the rebuild, we weren't trying to win the league, why can't Levy sell players whilst they still have value" after he inevitably left.

We have an attacking, refreshing manager. We have signed a class creative midfielder, and a young, quick, left-sided CB to partner Romero. We've signed two young attackers. There's still 3 weeks left of the window, and it sounds like Orban is on the cards.

There's much for Levy to prove with regards to steering the ship in the right direction again, particularly backing the manager and showing some patience for once, but I'm tired of treading water and now really looking forward to watching us play in our new iteration.
 
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