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animalmom

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I love how they think it's all a grand conspiracy and they care about Integrity

where was the virtue signaling when Craig Pawson collapsed when Kane scored the winner against city?

Oh yeah integrity doesn't matter unless Liverpool gets done
 

SpursSince1980

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I can't think what grounds they came up with for the appeal
On the grounds of playing the victimization card. It was never going to be overturned. But now it’s official, the club and fans can have another good moan.

Up until this week, I liked Liverpool. Have never held an inkling of disdain. But the club, the coaching staff and their fans have acted like brats.

Crappy decisions happen to every team. This was one terrible thing that went against them. Everything else from that game they have no cause for complaint. Yet, they’re clinging on to this injustice like their club has been docked 20 points and banned from making any transfers for the next ten years, and have to pay a 200m fine, ‘cos Klopp farted in the wrong direction.

Move on.
 

cjbyid

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  • I've tried to be grown up about this today, made a real effort, but I've failed. Hope these lose every match going forward unless it's one where their winning helps us.
    No real logic to it, just want them to suffer. Blaaagh!
  • I don’t even mean in a metaphorical sense. They actually, really did not beat us. Both teams had two goals. One of ours was stolen.

    So yeah. Celebrate away you fucking twats.
  • Even when they win, nobody talks about them
  • I've always hated them more than Arsenal, horrible entitled fanbase with delusions of the grandeur, they've done absolutely nothing for 40 years
  • I've now seen at least two articles praising Spurs for 'overcoming adversity' in beating us yesterday. Pretty nifty that you can now get plaudits for overcoming someone else's adversity
  • They are not very creative at all for a side thats supposedly attacking. I get the feeling Crocodile Dundee’s ability is fully based upon his man management than the tactical side of the game
  • Saturday wasnt Spurs fault.
    It was a corrupt organisation working on behalf of a gulf state owned team which caused the problems.
  • That lap of honor with the kids is going to look pretty fucking stupid at the end of the season - with 11 on the pitch I'm convinced we would have hammered them . We nearly done it with 9 .
  • I do work with some spurs fans, and was listening to them go on about decisions that have gone against them in previous years against us. Always fun listening to it from another fans point of view, as Liverpool fans think the exact opposite.
    Be nice if when push is changed, everyone just agreed maybe its needed
  • Trouble is most fans just believe what they read in the rags or hear the garbage pundits spout. SKY & Talkshite have pushed an anti Liverpool agenda for decades and all the soccer AM bantz doesn't help either.
    Every team thinks they are picked on, every team gets a bad decision or mistake occasionally but its way beyond that with us.
    I know what I have seen with my own eyes every week.
  • They'll be fuming that no one's talking about them taking 4 points from 6 against Arsenal and Liverpool or that they're second in the table and just a point off City

  • If it carries on, it’ll be because he’s been a failure, everyone loves a ‘funny’ or charming loser.
  • There's just something inherently dislikeable about Spurs. I think it's because they are such overcompensating try-hards.
    Asking them to join a potential ESL was, as the joke went at the time, like asking Bananaman to join the Avengers.


  • Seen it all now, people giving up after seven games saying Spurs of all teams has won the league …
  • what annoys me most about them (and always has) is the hugely misplaced idea that they're a massive club on the same level as ourselves and United. Absolutely bizarre and does my head in. They seem to think that when they finished above us a couple of times when they had Bale and Modric, that makes them our peers. Fuck off with that.

    Also, Maddison is absolutely made for these. Not in the sense that he's a great player or anything - just such a flash, flatters-to-deceive wanker with an immensely punchable face. Absolutely invisible when we had 11 men yesterday then strutted around like a peacock against 10, then looked absolutely useless and got subbed against 9. Not a bad player, but an absolute pretender at this level, just like his club.
  • I've generally thought Ange seemed sound, but I'm very surprised he's come out with that kind of shite. You could see on the guy's face yesterday (both late in the game, and even at full time) that deep down he knew they'd been shite and hadn't deserved to win at all. If that's the case just take your win with a bit of humility and shut the fuck up.
  • I dont use the whole fraud thing because it's very much football bantery, but feels like the Spurs manager actually is. I think he has probably hit upon a formula of player motivation, but outside of that I reckon he is a competition winner.
  • The entire premier league will have these lot and this Ang chancer fella sussed by Christmas.
  • Was at the game yesterday and was not leaving until I clapped our players off. I unfortunately also had to endure the most embarrassing misplaced over the top celebrations I ever laid eyes on. I’ve seen cup winners celebrate less.

    As for Robbie Williams blasting out. Words fail me.

    When we inevitably take them apart at Anfield, I really want the whole team sat on the floor doing ooops up side your head, in front of the Spurs bench. While the subs form a Conga and surround that little gobshite Son. I am beginning to really hate him because of his constant cringeworthy behaviour after anyone scores.
  • Mad how many favourable decisions these have had against us in recent years - last night aside, there was the obvious Skipp red card last season which was 10x worse than the Jones challenge, there was that 2-2 game the year before (when we lost out on the league by a point, you'll remember...) when Kane got away with a leg breaker on Robertson which is a red card 100 times out of 100, and the most stonewall penalty I've ever seen on Jota was waved away. Even that 2-2 game a few years back where Mo scored that ridiculous solo goal and Spurs were given two dubious late penalties and mouth-breather Kane told the camera "can't give me two chances". Those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
    Horrible, unlikeable club.


  • Well said mate and exactly my point. Fucking changed his tune quicker than you can say hypocrite

    Embarrassing the way they've gone about it like they battled to a famous victory
  • As football fans we reserve the right to hate everyone else. As someone who despises Spurs and everything and everyone associated to Spurs, i have found the Ange love in fucking nauseating. Anything that paints him as a c*nt is alright by me.
  • I must admit if the above quote is true, and assuming there are no contextual factors (I haven't watched any aftermath), I'm a bit disappointed in Ange as well. I thought he'd be a cert to come out and admit that Liverpool were robbed, that his club are the fortunate recipients of an officiating shitshow, and show some sympathy for what happened to us.

    It's what Klopp would have done. But then maybe I fooled myself into thinking he might be a bit Klopp-like.

    I guess I forget that there's Klopp and then there's everyone else.
  • What I don't really get is why everyone is trying to pull Tottenham into the controversary when it's the PGMOL who we should be holding to account. It's not Tottenham's fault or their manager's fault. While we are blaming them for not being like Klopp the likes of Webb are getting a clean slate.
  • Spurs have, weirdly, always been a ‘favoured’ club Gounod back to their double win in 60/61.

    A few FA cup wins and a League Cup? yet still they get bigger up like us, United or Arsenal of the old school clubs.
  • Jürgen dealt with it with far more class all things considered
    ;D


    Anyway, as for Spurs, it’s amazing how much luck they get when playing Liverpool in recent years, it seems each game the referee gives them massive leg-ups, be it penalties not given, red cards not given, and now this utter shit show yesterday.
  • Ange gets credit from some here because he’s a Liverpool supporter, it would be very different if he supported Manchester Untied. I don’t who he supports, I hope he loses every game unless it benefits us.
  • We'll finish at least 10 points ahead of them. Won't even be close. Our best is way better than theirs
  • Let's see how they fare against city

Oh my god these are amazing. We have properly got inside there heads.
 

Snarfalicious

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Oh my god these are amazing. We have properly got inside there heads.

Going to approach them at their level and remind them of what their pal Daniel Tiger always says:

🎶When you feel so mad that you want to roar… take a deep breath, and count to 4.🎶
 

bomberH

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  • what annoys me most about them (and always has) is the hugely misplaced idea that they're a massive club on the same level as ourselves and United. Absolutely bizarre and does my head in. They seem to think that when they finished above us a couple of times when they had Bale and Modric, that makes them our peers. Fuck off with that.L
Try 8 out of 10 seasons you fucking flange.
 

Jgplk1

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  • Unfortunately no protocol can be idiot proof

  • How long between those cuts?
    That is the crux of it all.
  • Woeful and dodgy AF.
    Time to turn the screw, sue the fuckers. Get them all fired, starting with Webb.
  • This is what I heard. … checking goal offside … then I heard the video operator telling them it was a mistake and them acting soft and pretending not to understand what he was saying and deliberately repeating the wrong words ….. followed by a very very long pause then …. Ahhhh too late. I heard matchfixing.
  • Am I hearing right that one of the so-called referees in the VAR box told the only bloke who knew what he was doing to **** Off?
  • Club should sue and demand sackings. I really feel like throwing the towel in with footy after that. Enough is enough. Absolute cheats - they didn't want us to get anything from the game.
  • That's why they've omitted Oliver's audio, we only hear England, Cook and the replay Guy.
  • I've just watched it again, before he Luis scores, England says "Potential Offside, Diaz", he then says "Just checking the offside, Delay, Delay" so they fucking knew the goal was going to be ruled out
  • England knew full well what he was doing. Corruption on top of incompetence.
  • "Well done boys, good process"
    :lmao
    :lmao
    :lmao

    SUE THEM ALL NOW!
  • Been past his house twice this week and shouted "cheating bastard" out the window both times, there'll be a tailback tomorrow with what I've got to say now
    ;D

    £750k house to pay for so needs every penny he can get
  • England desperately didn't want to give it, grim

    My initial thoughts aswell. He was proper fucking quick about that.
  • I'm finding it very hard to believe this is the original audio either.
  • now we need to demand our point, don't give a shit what happens to Spurs, they can keep 3 for all I care but we deserve ours.
    And who knows what the rest of the audio is like, hopefully the Club has demanded the lot.
  • Gotta love how this rings massive alarm bells for the whole VAR operation yet there are rival fans whose reaction is "see, it was just a mistake".
  • If we lose the league by a point, I swear...
  • He deliberately paused until the free kick was taken.
    He or one of his family had a bet on this for sure.
  • So they are either complete and utter fucking no brain, empty headed idiots with no business being near football ever again. Or they are fixing the game whether in bias or more nefarious reasons in plain sight. Fucking hell, pretty damning to be honest.
    I refuse to believe they are this stupid to be honest.
  • VAR: Check complete, check complete. That's fine, perfect (showing Diaz is clearly onside). Off.

    Why does he say Off ?
    A very good question.
  • These 2 clowns should be dismissed immediately. There’s honest mistakes but this is pure negligence.
  • That’s worse than I expected, that’s truly awful!
  • This is arguably the worst VAR call of all time, this stuff doesn’t happen every week.
  • Having listened to it a couple of times, and contrasted it with the Newcastle one, the lack of communication and clarity in this instance is astounding.
    It makes Darren England look fucking horrific, he's either that incompetent that he needs to be sacked and never referee a game of football ever again, or he's fixing the match. There's no in between there.
    The club will surely be aggressively seeking clarity as to why there's no defined protocol about the following:
    1) The On-field team informing VAR clearly of the on field decision - Goal / No Goal + reason why.
    2) The need to not rush the VAR check and confirm between VAR and AVAR the decision.
    3) The VAR team clearly informing the on-field team of the decision - "It was onside, you should award a goal" or "It was offside, correctly disallowed"
    There's either not a set protocol for communication, or there is and Darren England has fucked it either because he's complete gash or because he's fixing the match.
  • Club will have to take legal advice i'd say. England has clearly ignored the 4th officials request to halt the game, England who was in UAE 48hrs earlier. It's an absolute scandal.
  • That is grounds for a replay & I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
  • Awful! England knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s told immediately what’s happened but he has no interest whatsoever in attempting to do anything about it. If he’s not corrupt then he’s most definitely incompetent and not a fit person for the role he’s paid to do. Needs sacking
  • I had just about got over it today but listening to that has made me fucking rage.

16 more pages if anyone is interested.


 

markt

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  • Unfortunately no protocol can be idiot proof


  • How long between those cuts?
    That is the crux of it all.
  • Woeful and dodgy AF.
    Time to turn the screw, sue the fuckers. Get them all fired, starting with Webb.
  • This is what I heard. … checking goal offside … then I heard the video operator telling them it was a mistake and them acting soft and pretending not to understand what he was saying and deliberately repeating the wrong words ….. followed by a very very long pause then …. Ahhhh too late. I heard matchfixing.
  • Am I hearing right that one of the so-called referees in the VAR box told the only bloke who knew what he was doing to **** Off?
  • Club should sue and demand sackings. I really feel like throwing the towel in with footy after that. Enough is enough. Absolute cheats - they didn't want us to get anything from the game.
  • That's why they've omitted Oliver's audio, we only hear England, Cook and the replay Guy.
  • I've just watched it again, before he Luis scores, England says "Potential Offside, Diaz", he then says "Just checking the offside, Delay, Delay" so they fucking knew the goal was going to be ruled out
  • England knew full well what he was doing. Corruption on top of incompetence.
  • "Well done boys, good process"
    :lmao
    :lmao
    :lmao

    SUE THEM ALL NOW!
  • Been past his house twice this week and shouted "cheating bastard" out the window both times, there'll be a tailback tomorrow with what I've got to say now
    ;D

    £750k house to pay for so needs every penny he can get


  • My initial thoughts aswell. He was proper fucking quick about that.
  • I'm finding it very hard to believe this is the original audio either.
  • now we need to demand our point, don't give a shit what happens to Spurs, they can keep 3 for all I care but we deserve ours.
    And who knows what the rest of the audio is like, hopefully the Club has demanded the lot.
  • Gotta love how this rings massive alarm bells for the whole VAR operation yet there are rival fans whose reaction is "see, it was just a mistake".
  • If we lose the league by a point, I swear...
  • He deliberately paused until the free kick was taken.
    He or one of his family had a bet on this for sure.
  • So they are either complete and utter fucking no brain, empty headed idiots with no business being near football ever again. Or they are fixing the game whether in bias or more nefarious reasons in plain sight. Fucking hell, pretty damning to be honest.
    I refuse to believe they are this stupid to be honest.

  • A very good question.
  • These 2 clowns should be dismissed immediately. There’s honest mistakes but this is pure negligence.
  • That’s worse than I expected, that’s truly awful!
  • This is arguably the worst VAR call of all time, this stuff doesn’t happen every week.
  • Having listened to it a couple of times, and contrasted it with the Newcastle one, the lack of communication and clarity in this instance is astounding.
    It makes Darren England look fucking horrific, he's either that incompetent that he needs to be sacked and never referee a game of football ever again, or he's fixing the match. There's no in between there.
    The club will surely be aggressively seeking clarity as to why there's no defined protocol about the following:
    1) The On-field team informing VAR clearly of the on field decision - Goal / No Goal + reason why.
    2) The need to not rush the VAR check and confirm between VAR and AVAR the decision.
    3) The VAR team clearly informing the on-field team of the decision - "It was onside, you should award a goal" or "It was offside, correctly disallowed"
    There's either not a set protocol for communication, or there is and Darren England has fucked it either because he's complete gash or because he's fixing the match.
  • Club will have to take legal advice i'd say. England has clearly ignored the 4th officials request to halt the game, England who was in UAE 48hrs earlier. It's an absolute scandal.
  • That is grounds for a replay & I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
  • Awful! England knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s told immediately what’s happened but he has no interest whatsoever in attempting to do anything about it. If he’s not corrupt then he’s most definitely incompetent and not a fit person for the role he’s paid to do. Needs sacking
  • I had just about got over it today but listening to that has made me fucking rage.

16 more pages if anyone is interested.


He's gone to England's house twice to abuse him?

For sure I get the frustration when a big decision goes against you, but seriously abusing a human at his house due to a decision costing them 1 point (potentially as no one can predict what happens if a goal was scored at a different time)

There are a few Liverpool fans to be fair with a reasoned outlook, but the victim mentality of most of them because of one game and one decision is utterly ridiculous. The fact they created a change petition says it all.
 

spurmin

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He's gone to England's house twice to abuse him?

For sure I get the frustration when a big decision goes against you, but seriously abusing a human at his house due to a decision costing them 1 point (potentially as no one can predict what happens if a goal was scored at a different time)

There are a few Liverpool fans to be fair with a reasoned outlook, but the victim mentality of most of them because of one game and one decision is utterly ridiculous. The fact they created a change petition says it all.
Potentially no points having been down to ten men at the time of their goal disallowance.
 

SuperLuka

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That is grounds for a replay & I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

This post is grounds for a labotamy and I don't give a shot what anyone else thinks. Pass me the drill.
 

Navy Spur

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  • I've tried to be grown up about this today, made a real effort, but I've failed. Hope these lose every match going forward unless it's one where their winning helps us.
    No real logic to it, just want them to suffer. Blaaagh!
  • I don’t even mean in a metaphorical sense. They actually, really did not beat us. Both teams had two goals. One of ours was stolen.

    So yeah. Celebrate away you fucking twats.
  • Even when they win, nobody talks about them
  • I've always hated them more than Arsenal, horrible entitled fanbase with delusions of the grandeur, they've done absolutely nothing for 40 years
  • I've now seen at least two articles praising Spurs for 'overcoming adversity' in beating us yesterday. Pretty nifty that you can now get plaudits for overcoming someone else's adversity
  • They are not very creative at all for a side thats supposedly attacking. I get the feeling Crocodile Dundee’s ability is fully based upon his man management than the tactical side of the game
  • Saturday wasnt Spurs fault.
    It was a corrupt organisation working on behalf of a gulf state owned team which caused the problems.
  • That lap of honor with the kids is going to look pretty fucking stupid at the end of the season - with 11 on the pitch I'm convinced we would have hammered them . We nearly done it with 9 .
  • I do work with some spurs fans, and was listening to them go on about decisions that have gone against them in previous years against us. Always fun listening to it from another fans point of view, as Liverpool fans think the exact opposite.
    Be nice if when push is changed, everyone just agreed maybe its needed
  • Trouble is most fans just believe what they read in the rags or hear the garbage pundits spout. SKY & Talkshite have pushed an anti Liverpool agenda for decades and all the soccer AM bantz doesn't help either.
    Every team thinks they are picked on, every team gets a bad decision or mistake occasionally but its way beyond that with us.
    I know what I have seen with my own eyes every week.
  • They'll be fuming that no one's talking about them taking 4 points from 6 against Arsenal and Liverpool or that they're second in the table and just a point off City

  • If it carries on, it’ll be because he’s been a failure, everyone loves a ‘funny’ or charming loser.
  • There's just something inherently dislikeable about Spurs. I think it's because they are such overcompensating try-hards.
    Asking them to join a potential ESL was, as the joke went at the time, like asking Bananaman to join the Avengers.


  • Seen it all now, people giving up after seven games saying Spurs of all teams has won the league …
  • what annoys me most about them (and always has) is the hugely misplaced idea that they're a massive club on the same level as ourselves and United. Absolutely bizarre and does my head in. They seem to think that when they finished above us a couple of times when they had Bale and Modric, that makes them our peers. Fuck off with that.

    Also, Maddison is absolutely made for these. Not in the sense that he's a great player or anything - just such a flash, flatters-to-deceive wanker with an immensely punchable face. Absolutely invisible when we had 11 men yesterday then strutted around like a peacock against 10, then looked absolutely useless and got subbed against 9. Not a bad player, but an absolute pretender at this level, just like his club.
  • I've generally thought Ange seemed sound, but I'm very surprised he's come out with that kind of shite. You could see on the guy's face yesterday (both late in the game, and even at full time) that deep down he knew they'd been shite and hadn't deserved to win at all. If that's the case just take your win with a bit of humility and shut the fuck up.
  • I dont use the whole fraud thing because it's very much football bantery, but feels like the Spurs manager actually is. I think he has probably hit upon a formula of player motivation, but outside of that I reckon he is a competition winner.
  • The entire premier league will have these lot and this Ang chancer fella sussed by Christmas.
  • Was at the game yesterday and was not leaving until I clapped our players off. I unfortunately also had to endure the most embarrassing misplaced over the top celebrations I ever laid eyes on. I’ve seen cup winners celebrate less.

    As for Robbie Williams blasting out. Words fail me.

    When we inevitably take them apart at Anfield, I really want the whole team sat on the floor doing ooops up side your head, in front of the Spurs bench. While the subs form a Conga and surround that little gobshite Son. I am beginning to really hate him because of his constant cringeworthy behaviour after anyone scores.
  • Mad how many favourable decisions these have had against us in recent years - last night aside, there was the obvious Skipp red card last season which was 10x worse than the Jones challenge, there was that 2-2 game the year before (when we lost out on the league by a point, you'll remember...) when Kane got away with a leg breaker on Robertson which is a red card 100 times out of 100, and the most stonewall penalty I've ever seen on Jota was waved away. Even that 2-2 game a few years back where Mo scored that ridiculous solo goal and Spurs were given two dubious late penalties and mouth-breather Kane told the camera "can't give me two chances". Those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
    Horrible, unlikeable club.


  • Well said mate and exactly my point. Fucking changed his tune quicker than you can say hypocrite

    Embarrassing the way they've gone about it like they battled to a famous victory
  • As football fans we reserve the right to hate everyone else. As someone who despises Spurs and everything and everyone associated to Spurs, i have found the Ange love in fucking nauseating. Anything that paints him as a c*nt is alright by me.
  • I must admit if the above quote is true, and assuming there are no contextual factors (I haven't watched any aftermath), I'm a bit disappointed in Ange as well. I thought he'd be a cert to come out and admit that Liverpool were robbed, that his club are the fortunate recipients of an officiating shitshow, and show some sympathy for what happened to us.

    It's what Klopp would have done. But then maybe I fooled myself into thinking he might be a bit Klopp-like.

    I guess I forget that there's Klopp and then there's everyone else.
  • What I don't really get is why everyone is trying to pull Tottenham into the controversary when it's the PGMOL who we should be holding to account. It's not Tottenham's fault or their manager's fault. While we are blaming them for not being like Klopp the likes of Webb are getting a clean slate.
  • Spurs have, weirdly, always been a ‘favoured’ club Gounod back to their double win in 60/61.

    A few FA cup wins and a League Cup? yet still they get bigger up like us, United or Arsenal of the old school clubs.
  • Jürgen dealt with it with far more class all things considered
    ;D


    Anyway, as for Spurs, it’s amazing how much luck they get when playing Liverpool in recent years, it seems each game the referee gives them massive leg-ups, be it penalties not given, red cards not given, and now this utter shit show yesterday.
  • Ange gets credit from some here because he’s a Liverpool supporter, it would be very different if he supported Manchester Untied. I don’t who he supports, I hope he loses every game unless it benefits us.
  • We'll finish at least 10 points ahead of them. Won't even be close. Our best is way better than theirs
  • Let's see how they fare against city
“I’ve tried to be grown up about this today”………..you failed mate!
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Honestly these herberts.

if everyone else cried when they had a bad VAR call and requested the audio recordings then you'd hear an awful lot of fuck ups.

I hope this gives the refs an actual bee in their bonnet about Liverpool but i doubt it.

wouldn't it be glorious if all of the marginal calls that always fall in their favour suddenly evaporated.

heads would explode.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Hubcap salesman: "SKY & Talkshite have pushed an anti Liverpool agenda for decades"

SC'er: The media have an agenda against Spurs, they love Liverpool/United etc

What a load of bollocks. Both ways. The worst of it is that the disciples of the media agenda actually believe it :D
 

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  • Unfortunately no protocol can be idiot proof


  • How long between those cuts?
    That is the crux of it all.
  • Woeful and dodgy AF.
    Time to turn the screw, sue the fuckers. Get them all fired, starting with Webb.
  • This is what I heard. … checking goal offside … then I heard the video operator telling them it was a mistake and them acting soft and pretending not to understand what he was saying and deliberately repeating the wrong words ….. followed by a very very long pause then …. Ahhhh too late. I heard matchfixing.
  • Am I hearing right that one of the so-called referees in the VAR box told the only bloke who knew what he was doing to **** Off?
  • Club should sue and demand sackings. I really feel like throwing the towel in with footy after that. Enough is enough. Absolute cheats - they didn't want us to get anything from the game.
  • That's why they've omitted Oliver's audio, we only hear England, Cook and the replay Guy.
  • I've just watched it again, before he Luis scores, England says "Potential Offside, Diaz", he then says "Just checking the offside, Delay, Delay" so they fucking knew the goal was going to be ruled out
  • England knew full well what he was doing. Corruption on top of incompetence.
  • "Well done boys, good process"
    :lmao
    :lmao
    :lmao

    SUE THEM ALL NOW!
  • Been past his house twice this week and shouted "cheating bastard" out the window both times, there'll be a tailback tomorrow with what I've got to say now
    ;D

    £750k house to pay for so needs every penny he can get


  • My initial thoughts aswell. He was proper fucking quick about that.
  • I'm finding it very hard to believe this is the original audio either.
  • now we need to demand our point, don't give a shit what happens to Spurs, they can keep 3 for all I care but we deserve ours.
    And who knows what the rest of the audio is like, hopefully the Club has demanded the lot.
  • Gotta love how this rings massive alarm bells for the whole VAR operation yet there are rival fans whose reaction is "see, it was just a mistake".
  • If we lose the league by a point, I swear...
  • He deliberately paused until the free kick was taken.
    He or one of his family had a bet on this for sure.
  • So they are either complete and utter fucking no brain, empty headed idiots with no business being near football ever again. Or they are fixing the game whether in bias or more nefarious reasons in plain sight. Fucking hell, pretty damning to be honest.
    I refuse to believe they are this stupid to be honest.

  • A very good question.
  • These 2 clowns should be dismissed immediately. There’s honest mistakes but this is pure negligence.
  • That’s worse than I expected, that’s truly awful!
  • This is arguably the worst VAR call of all time, this stuff doesn’t happen every week.
  • Having listened to it a couple of times, and contrasted it with the Newcastle one, the lack of communication and clarity in this instance is astounding.
    It makes Darren England look fucking horrific, he's either that incompetent that he needs to be sacked and never referee a game of football ever again, or he's fixing the match. There's no in between there.
    The club will surely be aggressively seeking clarity as to why there's no defined protocol about the following:
    1) The On-field team informing VAR clearly of the on field decision - Goal / No Goal + reason why.
    2) The need to not rush the VAR check and confirm between VAR and AVAR the decision.
    3) The VAR team clearly informing the on-field team of the decision - "It was onside, you should award a goal" or "It was offside, correctly disallowed"
    There's either not a set protocol for communication, or there is and Darren England has fucked it either because he's complete gash or because he's fixing the match.
  • Club will have to take legal advice i'd say. England has clearly ignored the 4th officials request to halt the game, England who was in UAE 48hrs earlier. It's an absolute scandal.
  • That is grounds for a replay & I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
  • Awful! England knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s told immediately what’s happened but he has no interest whatsoever in attempting to do anything about it. If he’s not corrupt then he’s most definitely incompetent and not a fit person for the role he’s paid to do. Needs sacking
  • I had just about got over it today but listening to that has made me fucking rage.

16 more pages if anyone is interested.


Good God @Jgplk1, your fine work in this thread is widely appreciated, but you’re really taking one for the team with this particular barrel of lunacy. Don’t put yourself through any more of it! They’re totally deranged.

One sensible line in there - they should indeed inform the on-field team of the outcome in unambiguous terms. “Check complete” is insufficient, so add “goal stands/disallowed” or just speak whole sentences. It’s a simple fix that can be implemented immediately to avoid repeats of that type of mistake. Learn from archaic lower-budget sports like cricket.
 

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I've just watched it again, before he Luis scores, England says "Potential Offside, Diaz", he then says "Just checking the offside, Delay, Delay" so they fucking knew the goal was going to be ruled out
This guy convincing himself "potential offside" means they'd planned to rule it out. Clearly this dimwit hasn't heard any previously released VAR audio.
 

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  • Unfortunately no protocol can be idiot proof


  • How long between those cuts?
    That is the crux of it all.
  • Woeful and dodgy AF.
    Time to turn the screw, sue the fuckers. Get them all fired, starting with Webb.
  • This is what I heard. … checking goal offside … then I heard the video operator telling them it was a mistake and them acting soft and pretending not to understand what he was saying and deliberately repeating the wrong words ….. followed by a very very long pause then …. Ahhhh too late. I heard matchfixing.
  • Am I hearing right that one of the so-called referees in the VAR box told the only bloke who knew what he was doing to **** Off?
  • Club should sue and demand sackings. I really feel like throwing the towel in with footy after that. Enough is enough. Absolute cheats - they didn't want us to get anything from the game.
  • That's why they've omitted Oliver's audio, we only hear England, Cook and the replay Guy.
  • I've just watched it again, before he Luis scores, England says "Potential Offside, Diaz", he then says "Just checking the offside, Delay, Delay" so they fucking knew the goal was going to be ruled out
  • England knew full well what he was doing. Corruption on top of incompetence.
  • "Well done boys, good process"
    :lmao
    :lmao
    :lmao

    SUE THEM ALL NOW!
  • Been past his house twice this week and shouted "cheating bastard" out the window both times, there'll be a tailback tomorrow with what I've got to say now
    ;D

    £750k house to pay for so needs every penny he can get


  • My initial thoughts aswell. He was proper fucking quick about that.
  • I'm finding it very hard to believe this is the original audio either.
  • now we need to demand our point, don't give a shit what happens to Spurs, they can keep 3 for all I care but we deserve ours.
    And who knows what the rest of the audio is like, hopefully the Club has demanded the lot.
  • Gotta love how this rings massive alarm bells for the whole VAR operation yet there are rival fans whose reaction is "see, it was just a mistake".
  • If we lose the league by a point, I swear...
  • He deliberately paused until the free kick was taken.
    He or one of his family had a bet on this for sure.
  • So they are either complete and utter fucking no brain, empty headed idiots with no business being near football ever again. Or they are fixing the game whether in bias or more nefarious reasons in plain sight. Fucking hell, pretty damning to be honest.
    I refuse to believe they are this stupid to be honest.

  • A very good question.
  • These 2 clowns should be dismissed immediately. There’s honest mistakes but this is pure negligence.
  • That’s worse than I expected, that’s truly awful!
  • This is arguably the worst VAR call of all time, this stuff doesn’t happen every week.
  • Having listened to it a couple of times, and contrasted it with the Newcastle one, the lack of communication and clarity in this instance is astounding.
    It makes Darren England look fucking horrific, he's either that incompetent that he needs to be sacked and never referee a game of football ever again, or he's fixing the match. There's no in between there.
    The club will surely be aggressively seeking clarity as to why there's no defined protocol about the following:
    1) The On-field team informing VAR clearly of the on field decision - Goal / No Goal + reason why.
    2) The need to not rush the VAR check and confirm between VAR and AVAR the decision.
    3) The VAR team clearly informing the on-field team of the decision - "It was onside, you should award a goal" or "It was offside, correctly disallowed"
    There's either not a set protocol for communication, or there is and Darren England has fucked it either because he's complete gash or because he's fixing the match.
  • Club will have to take legal advice i'd say. England has clearly ignored the 4th officials request to halt the game, England who was in UAE 48hrs earlier. It's an absolute scandal.
  • That is grounds for a replay & I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
  • Awful! England knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s told immediately what’s happened but he has no interest whatsoever in attempting to do anything about it. If he’s not corrupt then he’s most definitely incompetent and not a fit person for the role he’s paid to do. Needs sacking
  • I had just about got over it today but listening to that has made me fucking rage.

16 more pages if anyone is interested.


they need to get our more. it’s just football.
 
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