Wheeler Dealer
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So much so, he is investing £600m for a stadium rebuild!
Sugar Daddy...
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So much so, he is investing £600m for a stadium rebuild!
dudu
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The flaw with your argument is that perhaps being able to sign anyone and everyone on whatever wages would counter the atmosphere and philosophy poch has instilled.
bomberH
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As I said earlier, Mane instead of Nkoudou or N'jie would've been amazing but never likely to happen because we don't pay the wages. Poch wanted Mane but had to settle for others. It's not the first time that kind of thing has happened. Better transfer decisions are sometimes needed I agree, but I reckon for everyone of those you mentioned above, there are others Poch wanted beforehand but couldn't afford, wage wise.
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I'd give it a few years with the new stadium in place before I considered having some sort of tycoon come in and throw more money around.
That will hopefully give us a bit more parity in any case, and if we can progress to the next level without having to sell our souls then that has to be the preference.
If things don't change and money continues to breed success then it would be hard to say no if the right offer came in.
But I think that would be a very sad day.
That will hopefully give us a bit more parity in any case, and if we can progress to the next level without having to sell our souls then that has to be the preference.
If things don't change and money continues to breed success then it would be hard to say no if the right offer came in.
But I think that would be a very sad day.
bomberH
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I don't think Poch is like that anyway. West Ham under the Icelandic guy spent loads and were shit because they were buying all the wrong players. Everton could be heading that route too. Poch is more sensible and knows what's needed. I don't think he'd buy people that would muck his principles up. He'd have learnt from Southampton too with Osvaldo. First thing he did here was clear out all the bad eggs. More money would just mean buying better players, that's all.
danielneeds
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This debate is as old as time on here, well since Abramovich first flew over WHL in his helicopter.
All clubs who aren't doped, the fans will claim moral superiority, and all clubs who are, the fans will claim they don't give a shit.
Yes there is a romance of doing it all through blood, sweat and tears, but the fact is the chances of trophies will always be a lot smaller while we're fighting with one hand behind our back.
All clubs who aren't doped, the fans will claim moral superiority, and all clubs who are, the fans will claim they don't give a shit.
Yes there is a romance of doing it all through blood, sweat and tears, but the fact is the chances of trophies will always be a lot smaller while we're fighting with one hand behind our back.
archiewasking
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I voted yes. To ensure we could pay our best players what they could comparably earn elsewhere, to give MoPo the kind of contract that would keep him here for a Wenger style length of time, and to walk into our new stadium debt free. And to strengthen where it is needed at the quality level to compete and win.
But not, absolutely not, to do the despicable FM style tactics of Chelsea especially, Yanited and City to a lesser extent, of buying players who will never get a game, either to prevent them from signing for a rival, or to weaken said rival by stealing their family silver.
I have confidence that with people like Levy and Poch around, we would be far wiser with that kind of investment and not just fight to be the biggest bully in the playground. The one tiny doubt in my mind is there because of this top six tv dispute for overseas money rights. That is the one dark cloud for me on my optimistic horizon and my belief in the purity of this great club's soul.
But not, absolutely not, to do the despicable FM style tactics of Chelsea especially, Yanited and City to a lesser extent, of buying players who will never get a game, either to prevent them from signing for a rival, or to weaken said rival by stealing their family silver.
I have confidence that with people like Levy and Poch around, we would be far wiser with that kind of investment and not just fight to be the biggest bully in the playground. The one tiny doubt in my mind is there because of this top six tv dispute for overseas money rights. That is the one dark cloud for me on my optimistic horizon and my belief in the purity of this great club's soul.
Lilbaz
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Our finances will not be above arsenals and only liverpools if they don't finish in the cl and we do. Even then it would be close.
Lilbaz
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I would just prefer if no-one had a sugar daddy.
Even if we got one pl ffp rules mean that he would only be able to invest £50m directly and that we could only increase our wages by £7m in a season.
What we would need would be a dodgy sponsorship deal.
Even if we got one pl ffp rules mean that he would only be able to invest £50m directly and that we could only increase our wages by £7m in a season.
What we would need would be a dodgy sponsorship deal.
Everlasting Seconds
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I agree, we will maybe, MAYBE overtake Liverpool, but that's about it.
Armstrong_11
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I'll prefer a sugar mummy...
But that's just me.
But that's just me.
truebluespur
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If it were to happen, and I sincerely and desperately hope not, I think I'd lose all interest in football.
I hate where the game is going and I don't want us to go that direction. I will always support Spurs, but it would be with a sort of emptiness... hard to explain...
I hate where the game is going and I don't want us to go that direction. I will always support Spurs, but it would be with a sort of emptiness... hard to explain...
danielneeds
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I think some people are in for a rude awakening when the stadium comes online. It's not going to be an overnight money tap.
Lilbaz
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Once it is paid for we will have a lot more money than we do now for players and wages (if we want). Just we will not be up there until we win trophies on a regular basis and get the sponsorships and fanbase to match.
Even then we will be short on city/chelsea and utd.
danielneeds
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It will take time though. In the end we don't have to compete with City or United financially. They can only sign so many players, we just have to be able to sign the cream of young players in Europe after they've filled up their spots.
Apart from the obvious faults of how abramovitch gained his wealth i find the most obnoxious thing is that these city/psg supporters are willing to overlook the fact that they are able to get behind owners that are known to be supporters by way of money provided to support groups such as isis proven by the way there near neighbours are at loggerheads with the Quater reign for there (in denial) support of these terror groups thus leading to them having no problems with terror groups and we know the reason why even tho the way the live in luxuary and oppulance and should be a target for terror
More amazing and disgusting is that man city supporters are willing to ignore the manchester arena bombings of there own people in return for what? success on a football field sick ;disguting;shallow in the extreme.
i would love someone with big bucks to come along and back us and so allow us to pay our players the wages that would allow us to retain our top men someone company such as facebook who have shedloads of cash but no terrorist supporting Arabs no way
More amazing and disgusting is that man city supporters are willing to ignore the manchester arena bombings of there own people in return for what? success on a football field sick ;disguting;shallow in the extreme.
i would love someone with big bucks to come along and back us and so allow us to pay our players the wages that would allow us to retain our top men someone company such as facebook who have shedloads of cash but no terrorist supporting Arabs no way
brendanb50
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I voted no. Going back a number of years to the late 90's early 00's we'd have been ripe for it and i for one (having seen the teams we had at times) would have been over the moon with a rich person(s) coming in and bank rolling success but we've come a long, long way since then.
Our lack of long term strategy/managerial stability has been replaced with a fantastic manager who has the rare ability to train a team into an effective unit and bring players on in their careers. Our training facilities are some of the best in the world and the teams we have using them from schoolboys upwards have a cohesive plan and strategy for nurturing them into professional talents.
Our general lack of quality on the pitch (barring a few shining lights back then) have been replaced by a genuinely top side with a few standouts who are genuine world class performers. The value we've got from our buys vs. the value of our team is way way above our competitors and our balance of business and youth development has been admirable not just to us as fans but to many sensible heads outside of our club.
Our next steps are just as exciting; with the stadium we'll have a new stage to perform on and be proud of as well as bigger revenue coming in regularly. The commercial deals with the NFL will grow our commercials globally and help us to push on and build on our global brand.
With all of those changes happening organically with Levy at the helm (allowing for a few mistakes here and there) i'm incredibly proud to be a Spurs fan and am proud that we still have a soul to hold onto as a club and as fans. I for one wouldn't trade that now, not when we're so close to making those final steps towards real success again and i think a lot of fans, even at Cheski and Citeh would still consider that given the option at the start - sugar daddy now = instant success vs. waiting 10,15 years = building success.
As many have noted they were both pretty average sides, so maybe i'm being generous presuming they'd wait but i think what we can have is worth a lot more than money and will give us more long term than those sides.
Our lack of long term strategy/managerial stability has been replaced with a fantastic manager who has the rare ability to train a team into an effective unit and bring players on in their careers. Our training facilities are some of the best in the world and the teams we have using them from schoolboys upwards have a cohesive plan and strategy for nurturing them into professional talents.
Our general lack of quality on the pitch (barring a few shining lights back then) have been replaced by a genuinely top side with a few standouts who are genuine world class performers. The value we've got from our buys vs. the value of our team is way way above our competitors and our balance of business and youth development has been admirable not just to us as fans but to many sensible heads outside of our club.
Our next steps are just as exciting; with the stadium we'll have a new stage to perform on and be proud of as well as bigger revenue coming in regularly. The commercial deals with the NFL will grow our commercials globally and help us to push on and build on our global brand.
With all of those changes happening organically with Levy at the helm (allowing for a few mistakes here and there) i'm incredibly proud to be a Spurs fan and am proud that we still have a soul to hold onto as a club and as fans. I for one wouldn't trade that now, not when we're so close to making those final steps towards real success again and i think a lot of fans, even at Cheski and Citeh would still consider that given the option at the start - sugar daddy now = instant success vs. waiting 10,15 years = building success.
As many have noted they were both pretty average sides, so maybe i'm being generous presuming they'd wait but i think what we can have is worth a lot more than money and will give us more long term than those sides.
Tweddled
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For me it would depend on how it's done. If it were identical to City and Chelsea where billions get chucked around trying to buy the title without any soul in the club, then I'd rather we just stayed as we are.
However, If we were able to get a little bit more money that would:
- Pay good wages
- Help us get our first choice transfer targets
- Maintain and improve our training & youth development facilities
I think we'd be able to carry on doing what we're doing with Poch but have a little extra edge and put to bed all the "everyone's gonna leave because Spurs don't pay enough and haven't won anything" talk.
However, If we were able to get a little bit more money that would:
- Pay good wages
- Help us get our first choice transfer targets
- Maintain and improve our training & youth development facilities
I think we'd be able to carry on doing what we're doing with Poch but have a little extra edge and put to bed all the "everyone's gonna leave because Spurs don't pay enough and haven't won anything" talk.
Trix
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Ozil and Sanchez are paid in the top tier bracket they both want out of Arsenal. Chelsea players are paid massively but it doesn't stop them downing tools every time things are not hunky dory. Money has not been an issue Doesn't matter how much money you have players will still want to move to Real and Barca and before Walker gets mentioned it was a club/Poch decision to move him on. Walker said so himself that he had no future at the club if he were to stay. As long as we are progressing and the players believe in the clubs and managers philosophy we will continue to progress. The new stadium will also allow us to organically spend more on wages. If we now start throwing money at big new signings all it will do is blow apart everything we have achieved so far. The vast amounts ploughed into the development of youngsters will become wasted as we buy in ready made players pushing the kids further and further away from the first team. If we were starting from scratch then I might feel differently, but we have come so far with this philosophy that I think it would be stupid to change things now.
Do you honestly think a new sugar daddy coming in wouldn't want to rip up everything we have done so far in order to gain instant success? Would be the worst possible outcome for us imo.
