You've completely missed the point. That's just my opinion.I am ambitious for more than just top 4 and a bit of a run in the CL. IMO we should be able to do a bit better than that. We are not going to win the league or CL in the short term. Listen, it's subjective. I am not old school but I am not an accountant either. The success of a club is measured by a lot of factors but silverware is definitely one of them. That's just my opinion.