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Team Whispers: Who should Spurs sign in January?

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TheChosenOne

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He honestly reminds me of a young right footed bale. He has good decision making for his age, just needs to work on his finishing which can be very wasteful.

I watched him fail to score with 2 chances against Leicester on Boxing Day.
 

TheChosenOne

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If we want another Belgian then the Atletico Madrid winger Yannick Carrasco has been mentioned as being available
In the Mail and the Guardian in the last few hours.
 

Indacupfortottenham

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I don’t see us buying from the pl if we do buy. The values of players are insane lately ,it’s like prices have almost doubled over the past year.
 

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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but the more I have watched Zaha over the last year or so the more I have come around to him. I can see the argument that Richarlison is more well-rounded and has more potential, but off the top of my head I can't name any player outside the Top 6 (meaning Richarlison included) that--at this moment in time--strikes more fear in a fullback when one on one. At this point, teams focus their energy on limiting Zaha's ability to isolate himself against defenders. But surrounded by our talent, they would do so at their own risk.

TLDR : Zaha scares the crap out of defenders when one-on-one, including in the final third (not just on the counter)...and in our squad he would see much more favorable matchups. I think he'd add a lot, both to our team and in terms of what he'd be able to do personally.
 

walworthyid

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Not trying to beat a dead horse, but the more I have watched Zaha over the last year or so the more I have come around to him. I can see the argument that Richarlison is more well-rounded and has more potential, but off the top of my head I can't name any player outside the Top 6 (meaning Richarlison included) that--at this moment in time--strikes more fear in a fullback when one on one. At this point, teams focus their energy on limiting Zaha's ability to isolate himself against defenders. But surrounded by our talent, they would do so at their own risk.

TLDR : Zaha scares the crap out of defenders when one-on-one, including in the final third (not just on the counter)...and in our squad he would see much more favorable matchups. I think he'd add a lot, both to our team and in terms of what he'd be able to do personally.
I completely agree. It's not that I think he is a world beater, but as you rightly say, there aren't many alternatives that we could get that tick as many boxes.

He has real ability and genuine pace. He can beat players for fun with trickery or just raw pace. Against spurs at selhurst last season I saw him give walker the absolute run around for 45 minutes. There was one occasion where the ball came at high from the keeper towards the left wing and Zaha had walker and son (I think) all over him. He took the ball down inches from the touchline, held walker off, beat both of them and was off in a flash. It was amazing. His problem in that game was being isolated and frustrated. Every time he got away from walker he had no options and still had toby/Jan to beat. In the second half walker dropped off him at times and marshalled him a lot better. Zaha then got frustrated and disappeared from the game. But he beat walker with pace (which is very rare), trickery and strength on numerous occasions. He is extremely talented. Yes he makes some bad decisions but it is often because his options are limited and he has to do so much on his own. Even in a worst case scenario that he got no better than he is today, he would bring something to our squad that we don't currently have.

In terms of richarlison, he is young and talented with perhaps more potential, but as it stands he is in no way better than Zaha.

This team, at home, would literally strangle teams with pace and pressing;

Lloris

Toby Sanchez Jan

Aurier Wanyama rose

Zaha Eriksen son

Kane

Vorm
Lamela
Dier
Dele
Trippier
Dembele
Llorente

Davies and winks don't even make the bench! This is the aspect of it that us fans don't really think about. If we bought Barkley and Zaha, which I think most of us would be fairly happy with, who drops out? I would say that currently our weakest players are winks and Trippier but Jan can play left back and dier could drop in as a CB in the event of an emergency hence dropping Davies from the 18. But does either player deserve that? Would they even accept that for a prolonged period of time? If we buy Barkley, we would almost certainly lose winks unless we sold dembele instead. I can't see poch doing that and this is why it is unlikely that we will buy anybody in january imo.
 
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I completely agree. It's not that I think he is a world beater, but as you rightly say, there aren't many alternatives that we could get that tick as many boxes.

He has real ability and genuine pace. He can beat players for fun with trickery or just raw pace. Against spurs at selhurst last season I saw him give walker the absolute run around for 45 minutes. There was one occasion where the ball came at high from the keeper towards the left wing and Zaha had walker and son (I think) all over him. He took the ball down inches from the touchline, held walker off, beat both of them and was off in a flash. It was amazing. His problem in that game was being isolated and frustrated. Every time he got away from walker he had no options and still had toby/Jan to beat. In the second half walker dropped off him at times and marshalled him a lot better. Zaha then got frustrated and disappeared from the game. But he beat walker with pace (which is very rare), trickery and strength on numerous occasions. He is extremely talented. Yes he makes some bad decisions but it is often because his options are limited and he has to do so much on his own. Even in a worst case scenario that he got no better than he is today, he would bring something to our squad that we don't currently have.

In terms of richarlison, he is young and talented with perhaps more potential, but as it stands he is in no way better than Zaha.

This team, at home, would literally strangle teams with pace and pressing;

Lloris

Toby Sanchez Jan

Aurier Wanyama rose

Zaha Eriksen son

Kane

Vorm
Lamela
Dier
Dele
Trippier
Dembele
Llorente

Davies and winks don't even make the bench! This is the aspect of it that us fans don't really think about. If we bought Barkley and Zaha, which I think most of us would be fairly happy with, who drops out? I would say that currently our weakest players are winks and Trippier but Jan can play left back and dier could drop in as a CB in the event of an emergency hence dropping Davies from the 18. But does either player deserve that? Would they even accept that for a prolonged period of time? If we buy Barkley, we would almost certainly lose winks unless we sold dembele instead. I can't see poch doing that and this is why it is unlikely that we will buy anybody in january imo.

Zaha starting ahead of Dele!?!?! When Zaha scores and assists 20+ goals a season come back to me
 

Dharmabum

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I had laugh about this article in the Daily Star about those CF Spurs should target to "supplement" Kane. Sure, spending £100-150 on Icardo or Belotti as "supplement strikers" sounds great....if it was ManC or ManU or Chelski :cool: Besides, am sure Icardo would be thrilled to be signed up as 2nd choice CF at Spurs :D

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/670041/Tottenham-transfer-targets-January-transfer-window-strikers-Premier-League-sportgalleries?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: daily-star-football (Daily Star :: Football Feed)
 
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Dharmabum

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Have you seen him play... he is incredibly raw. Not as good as Townsend, let alone Zaha. Potential, yes, he would get knowhere near the spurs team.

I kind of agree with you but then you never know: maybe he would excel even more at Spurs given the quality of team mates he would have there. Maybe, anyway, is the key word with any new signing anyway.
 

Dharmabum

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I would like to see Spurs sign a quick (quick in both feet and brain) skilled left footed wide forward/midfielder from this group of players. I would not expect all of them to starters right away or even be regular starters. Maybe sign up Jack Harrison + one of the top-notch WF on this list.

David Neres, Leon Bailey, Malcolm, Carrasco, Mahrez, Felipe Anderson, Jack Harrison, Maxwell Cornet, Nathan Redmond, Gaston Pereira.
 
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allpaths

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Have you seen him play... he is incredibly raw. Not as good as Townsend, let alone Zaha. Potential, yes, he would get knowhere near the spurs team.
yes richarlison is raw but he is 21 and has a lot of time to improve, zaha is still raw and 4 years older. it'll be interesting if we can even afford Zaha.
 

Japhet

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Are we after Kovacic?

I don't know. There was something a couple of weeks back saying he was available and I know we've been interested in the past. The thread title is 'Who should we sign in Jan, and I think we should sign Kovacic.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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He is not particularly young any longer. That he was 4 years ago.


He won't affect our CL squad because he'll be so lacking in match fitness he won't play.


He is exactly within our price range given the current market inflations.


He is not a particularly good CM option for a Pochettino midfield.


In fact what I remember hearing, is that Pochettino isn't all that fussed. Barkley has a larger standing with the SC users than with the gaffer.


This might be just about half a good reason. Maybe.


He is rare, I'll give you that.


I couldn't care less. We don't win trophies based on which other clubs players don't sign for.
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What iv taken from that is you rate the arse off him and will be holding a #welcomeross banner on his arrival?
 

Everlasting Seconds

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What iv taken from that is you rate the arse off him and will be holding a #welcomeross banner on his arrival?
Hæshtæg BarkleyIsMyLife

No really, it's not that I will be negatively upset if Barkley signs. It will be fine, I'll get over it ;)
What gets to me, is that 7 out of 10 SC users keep mentioning him all the time as if he is THE answer to everything (AM, CM, replacement for Lloris) even several months after the transfer saga last summer. To me, if what we want is securing our position as a team that's competing for top 4, Barkley probably isn't a bad choice. But from the perspective of taking the next step and looking towards to sky, Ross Barkley can't be the first on everybody's lips. We need not only players that are convenient to get, but guys who'll rock in the new stadium.

Ross Barkley is like a cup of weak filter coffee when you really would like a mug of Irish coffee. You won't turn the former down, but you'll still want the latter regardless.
 
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Everlasting Seconds

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For me, the big problem with Barkley is that signing him would almost certainly mean we wouldn't go after Kovacic, who I think would be a fantastic fit for us. He'd be a great option in CM or AMF and, although he would cost a bit, I'd have him every day of the week ahead of Barkley. I don't see Barkley as a CM without a whole load of coaching btw. 2 positions covered where we need a bit of depth by one player who is said to be available and who we could afford.
That's a big part of it for me. Fans seem to forget exactly how much work Barkley would take to be able to slot in. He wouldn't be a perfect fit from day 1, specifically defensively and when pressing.
 
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