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freeeki

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Whilst I love Lloris and Kane, it's surprising you think they are bigger than Bale in commercial appeal right now. Dele and Son featured in a big Adidas Campaign last year FYI. I appreciate we have a stronger commerical relationship with Nike, but I don't really understand your argument to be honest.

He would raise our profile and generate extended commerical opportunities. He would sell more shirts to our international fanbase.

Absolutely.

We actually have surprisingly few "celebrity" players in that regard. I'd say the one player we have with significant commercial appeal is Son, because he's a superstar in South Korea which is a big market.

Gareth would certainly raise us a few notches in that regard.
 

hakano

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!. A statement we are clinging to the past.
2. Bale is an Adidas player, he is nowhere near as commercially appealing for us and Nike as Kane, Lloris or Eriksen, he's not a big deal for AIA either as he's neither a paragon of health, attractive or Asian.
3. See number 2. Welsh brand awareness perhaps.
4. See number 1.

Lets not pretend he's Neymar and NIke are going to give us sexy THFC x Jordan away kit like PSG.

Lets also not pretend he's Cristiano and he's going to shift 500,000 shirts in his first 24 hours
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/18/juv...llion-of-ronaldo-jerseys-in-just-one-day.html


The Adidas / Nike thing is so overrated. Messi Adidas - Barca Nike. Ronaldo Nike - first RM and now Juve Adidas.

Opinion is good particularly on a forum and it is fine to not want him but let's not make things up as fact just to support our own opinion.

Here is a link worth reading in response to point number 3.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43526832

Bale is a superstar, you wouldn't earn 650K per week if you weren't big globally - he is far bigger than Lloris and Eriksen put together.
 

soflapaul

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While I agree with part of what you wrote, it seems those positions are exaggerated.

1. A statement we are clinging to the past. There is some of that going on but that is not what is in play entirely. He still has as much capability as any player on our team. The question is for how long.

2. Bale is an Adidas player, he is nowhere near as commercially appealing for us and Nike as Kane, Lloris or Eriksen, he's not a big deal for AIA either as he's neither a paragon of health, attractive or Asian. He has lost some of his appeal, but not all of it. While it is a bit "clingy", doesn't the picture below still have an emotional impact?

Gareth-Bale.jpg


3. See number 2. Welsh brand awareness perhaps. He still has global awareness because of his goals at RM at crucial moments. Back in the EPL, he would be back on the world's biggest stage which certainly wouldn't hurt.

4. See number 1.

Lets not pretend he's Neymar and NIke are going to give us sexy THFC x Jordan away kit like PSG. He's not. but the commercial portion is not as important as what he can do on the field. And here is the big if which is where we are probably in full agreement. Can he do it on the field for a season? I'm not convinced he can but until the physios make that call, he is an interesting potential addition.

Lets also not pretend he's Cristiano and he's going to shift 500,000 shirts in his first 24 hours This all comes down to the finances. If the price is low enough, he doesn't need to. if the price is too high, then he isn't worth it. I am a fan of his but not at any cost. What he does is gives us the ability to go to a 4-3-3 with Kane, Moura and Sonny. Three players who are clearly dangerous from 25 yards and in. Three players that can stretch any defense. four players that move well off the ball. add a midfielder or two who can distribute (or a CB) and our offense is as potent as any that doesn't have Messi.

While i am in the camp that would like to see him back, it isn't at any cost. We need to bring in a mix of established and younger players and not four 60-100m players who are expected to start. If poch's system takes most players a year to assimilate, then bringing in a bunch of new starters would lead away from the cohesion we've seen when players are healthy. So if bringing him in would cut off bringing in Tanguy and Lo Celso, with a couple other home growns, it isn't interesting at all. If it is Bale, Tanguy or Lo Celso and a couple of home growns, its a 50-50 for me and i'm not convinced i'm right. For that reason, i wouldn't argue too much with someone who would rather have those two than Bale and one of them .
 

jordibwoy

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With Madrid announcing Jovic and close to signing Mendy, I suspect that will put us (and any club interested tbh) in a stronger position to negotiate down the cost of Bale. The need to rid him has already increased and will likely continue to do so with each passing week.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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With Madrid announcing Jovic and close to signing Mendy, I suspect that will put us (and any club interested tbh) in a stronger position to negotiate down the cost of Bale. The need to rid him has already increased and will likely continue to do so with each passing week.
Eh. Madrid didnt really have much of a say here to begin with. They've made it known they want him out and need him out to free up space. But they are the ones that agreed to pay him £600k/wk. They made their own bed. Now they'll likely have to lie in it.
 

spids

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Lloris
AWB Sanchez Vertonghen Rose
N’dombele Winks
Lo Celso
Bale Kane Son​

Subs:
Gazza, KWP, Foyth, Dier, Davies, Sissoko, Dele, Lamela

That front three could easily be the best in Europe. In tougher away games we could always sacrifice one of the front three for Sissoko or Dele to give more in the middle.

Really, really hope we bring Bale home!

And if they want Eriksen (valued by Levy at £100M+) a deal can be done. Swap the players, RM pay off 1/3 of Bale’s remaining contract (this is offset by getting Eriksen for ‘free’ and paying him a lot less than they pay Bale), we pay him £200k a week (equal top earner with Kane and what we’d have to pay Eriksen if he stayed) and a decent signing on fee spread over the term of his contract (e.g. £30M spread over three years would give him a total of £400k per week plus the £25-£30M he’d get as a pay off from Madrid). Our wage structure stays intact. Bale gets over 90% of what he’d get by staying and not playing at Madrid whilst playing at our great stadium and being loved by us. We get the deadliest front 3 in European football.
 

Danny1

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Lloris
AWB Sanchez Vertonghen Rose
N’dombele Winks
Lo Celso
Bale Kane Son​

Subs:
Gazza, KWP, Foyth, Dier, Davies, Sissoko, Dele, Lamela

That front three could easily be the best in Europe. In tougher away games we could always sacrifice one of the front three for Sissoko or Dele to give more in the middle.

Really, really hope we bring Bale home!

And if they want Eriksen (valued by Levy at £100M+) a deal can be done. Swap the players, RM pay off 1/3 of Bale’s remaining contract (this is offset by getting Eriksen for ‘free’ and paying him a lot less than they pay Bale), we pay him £200k a week (equal top earner with Kane and what we’d have to pay Eriksen if he stayed) and a decent signing on fee spread over the term of his contract (e.g. £30M spread over three years would give him a total of £400k per week plus the £25-£30M he’d get as a pay off from Madrid). Our wage structure stays intact. Bale gets over 90% of what he’d get by staying and not playing at Madrid whilst playing at our great stadium and being loved by us. We get the deadliest front 3 in European football.

And this is exactly what I would want (Moura over Lamela on the bench for me).
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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Lloris
AWB Sanchez Vertonghen Rose
N’dombele Winks
Lo Celso
Bale Kane Son​

Subs:
Gazza, KWP, Foyth, Dier, Davies, Sissoko, Dele, Lamela

That front three could easily be the best in Europe. In tougher away games we could always sacrifice one of the front three for Sissoko or Dele to give more in the middle.

Really, really hope we bring Bale home!

And if they want Eriksen (valued by Levy at £100M+) a deal can be done. Swap the players, RM pay off 1/3 of Bale’s remaining contract (this is offset by getting Eriksen for ‘free’ and paying him a lot less than they pay Bale), we pay him £200k a week (equal top earner with Kane and what we’d have to pay Eriksen if he stayed) and a decent signing on fee spread over the term of his contract (e.g. £30M spread over three years would give him a total of £400k per week plus the £25-£30M he’d get as a pay off from Madrid). Our wage structure stays intact. Bale gets over 90% of what he’d get by staying and not playing at Madrid whilst playing at our great stadium and being loved by us. We get the deadliest front 3 in European football.

Not sure we would have to give them CE to secure such a deal for Bale!
 

SpartanSpur

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Don’t think they’re going to pay him off and give him away for free!

Currently they look set to pay him £33m a year to train with the U23s and work on his golf game. Likelihood is they are going to have to accept a free transfer or loan deal.

That said your suggestion of them working it into the Eriksen deal as part exchange might be a way of them saving face.
 

TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
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If the financials are doable and we’re wanting to push Liverpool, Man C and compete on more than one front:

Essential - Bale, N’Dombele, Lo Celso

Important - Right back

Talent - Sessegnon x 2, Clarke

Funds left over - Gomez, another central midfielder

Cheap - 3rd choice GK
 

TheAmerican

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Aug 30, 2012
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Currently they look set to pay him £33m a year to train with the U23s and work on his golf game. Likelihood is they are going to have to accept a free transfer or loan deal.

That said your suggestion of them working it into the Eriksen deal as part exchange might be a way of them saving face.
One would suspect that any deal would include performance-related bonuses to reduce the cost for any purchasing team initially, but bring more return to Madrid if he is successful. I don't see any team taking a gamble without that.
 

SpartanSpur

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One would suspect that any deal would include performance-related bonuses to reduce the cost for any purchasing team initially, but bring more return to Madrid if he is successful. I don't see any team taking a gamble without that.

Yeah a good way of putting it. Can work both ways, put an appearance related bonus in there and it can work in the favour of the buying team too. Plus saves Madrid some face if he starts playing like a worldy again.
 

rez9000

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Feb 8, 2007
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Bale back at Spurs would be a dream come true.

I was furious at him for leaving, I will admit, but if he comes back all would be forgiven. I salivate at the thought of him, Kane and Sonny in attack. He'd rip players to shreds and open up so many holes in opposition defences that we'd score for fun against some of the lesser teams and give the stronger ones a major headache.

With Bale in the side and the other potential transfers coming in, we would become one of the strongest teams in Europe and I believe that silverware will grace our trophy cabinet again.

If the possibility exists, we should be hell-bent on making this happen.

That said, I'm not a manager or a chairman, so it's up to them to decide.
 

Matthew

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Aug 29, 2012
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Lloris
AWB Sanchez Vertonghen Rose
N’dombele Winks
Lo Celso
Bale Kane Son​

Subs:
Gazza, KWP, Foyth, Dier, Davies, Sissoko, Dele, Lamela

That front three could easily be the best in Europe. In tougher away games we could always sacrifice one of the front three for Sissoko or Dele to give more in the middle.

Really, really hope we bring Bale home!

And if they want Eriksen (valued by Levy at £100M+) a deal can be done. Swap the players, RM pay off 1/3 of Bale’s remaining contract (this is offset by getting Eriksen for ‘free’ and paying him a lot less than they pay Bale), we pay him £200k a week (equal top earner with Kane and what we’d have to pay Eriksen if he stayed) and a decent signing on fee spread over the term of his contract (e.g. £30M spread over three years would give him a total of £400k per week plus the £25-£30M he’d get as a pay off from Madrid). Our wage structure stays intact. Bale gets over 90% of what he’d get by staying and not playing at Madrid whilst playing at our great stadium and being loved by us. We get the deadliest front 3 in European football.


you just made me erect at work!
 

SpartanSpur

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Jan 27, 2011
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Inter supposedly interested again under Conte. They might be stupid enough to take on a huge chunk of his wages.

If Eriksen is to go to Madrid we need to try and get Bale included somehow. Would be a real statement of intent and I still think he has a good 2-3 years in him.

Lo Celso, Bale, Ndombele in, Eriksen, Wanyama/Dier out. We come out much much stronger.
 

JCRD

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After going to Madrid for the first time, I can see why Bale wants to stay in Madrid. I am liking the lifestyle and the restaurants/cafes etc.
 
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