The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - DEADLINE DAY SPECIAL!

jimmyh said:

On the full backs I really think although we weren't linked with him missed out big time on Kieran Tierney I have watched a lot of Celtic and this kid is quality and am gutted he went to the gooners. I think he will be their best signing and think he could have gave us the dynamism we are lacking. His crossing is superb which we definitely lack from our full backs.

Hope he has a nightmare at the gooners but don't think he will.

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Pauleta01 said:

Anyone worked out Net spend for the window?

In - £145m

Ndombele £55m
Sessegnon £25m (plus JO)
Jack Clarke £10m
Lo Celso £55m (no way the option is not watertight)

Out - £28.5m

Trippier - £22m
Jansen - £6.5m

Net Spend - £116.5m

Yep say it twice! Although could reduce dramatically if Aurier, N’Koudou and Eriksen leave to foreign pastures new by the end of the month!

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Timberwolf said:

Our CB pairing is great and Lloris is one of the best keepers in the league, but I'm surprised anyone thinks we're as good as Liverpool in that department. Statistically they had the best defence in Europe last season and it was the entire foundation of their crazy points tally/CL win.

VVD genuinely looks like the best CB in the world at the moment and Allison is an absolute colossus - certainly a notch above Lloris. I also think Matip gets nowhere near enough respect on here - he's an exceptional footballer and, though he's not a rock defensively, he's no chump. Gomez too is a fantastic prospect, while everyone know how good their fullbacks are.

I don't mean to gargle Klopps ballbag, but ultimately it's the solidity of their defence, and the productivity of their fullbacks that set them apart last season. They conceded 16 less than the season before and despite only scoring 5 additional goals they improved by 22 points - that's how important the defence was to them. Robertson and Trent had twenty five assists. I'd be surprised if all of ours had 5 between them.

We have serious strengths too - in Ndombele and Lo Celso we have two extremely versatile, creative midfielders that offer qualities Liverpool lack. I also think we have far more depth in attacking options than them and we could handle a bout of injuries far better, but our defence...its not even close.

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BringBack_leGin said:

At fullback we are definitely weaker (though not weak), but at centre back and goalkeeper, not having it. Those same centre backs and goalkeeper have been exceptional together for four seasons straight, and always in the top 3 defences in the league. It's just that out defence starts from the front, except last season it just didn't as injuries and fatigue decimated our press, we had multiple midfield combinations and apart from Son all our forwards had lead in their boots for most of the season. Liverpool's defence was protected by a very solid, gritty trio in front of it. That's not to take away from it, they were class individually and collectively, but there's more to it than be better players.

Now the productivity of Liverpool's fullbacks, absolutely a key factor but once again, not something that necessarily needs to be replicated as our style is different, as is City's. I'd wager that they'll again have more productive fullbacks, but that our CMs will be more productive than theirs and then it becomes a case of who has the best attack, which is great fun for all involved.

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BringBack_leGin said:

At fullback we are definitely weaker (though not weak), but at centre back and goalkeeper, not having it. Those same centre backs and goalkeeper have been exceptional together for four seasons straight, and always in the top 3 defences in the league. It's just that out defence starts from the front, except last season it just didn't as injuries and fatigue decimated our press, we had multiple midfield combinations and apart from Son all our forwards had lead in their boots for most of the season. Liverpool's defence was protected by a very solid, gritty trio in front of it. That's not to take away from it, they were class individually and collectively, but there's more to it than be better players.

Now the productivity of Liverpool's fullbacks, absolutely a key factor but once again, not something that necessarily needs to be replicated as our style is different, as is City's. I'd wager that they'll again have more productive fullbacks, but that our CMs will be more productive than theirs and then it becomes a case of who has the best attack, which is great fun for all involved.

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TheWallYid said:

I’m not worried about right back KWP was immense against inter on Sunday they had to gang up on him in a friendly as well. He did one turn and run that literally had people on their feet. I’m feeling happy we’ve actually signed some players and guaranteed a player next summer when we make Lo Celso permanent

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yankspurs said:

Eh. Im not sure theres a change at FB. Im not sure KWP or Aurier are worse than Tripps. We managed to keep Rose which is MASSIVE. Sessegnon should add depth at LB and WF.

This window hinges on Eriksen. If he signs on, its great. If he doesnt or is sold in the next few weeks, January becomes a month where Daniel will have to open those purse strings again in a big way.

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scottlag10 said:

Massive shout out to Dan Kirkpatrick who called all four transfers at the end of May....now that's ITK !

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Hotspur_Hero said:

That just goes to show that for the first time I can remember at least we actually had a transfer plan AND executed it. Normally our plans fall through and we play bargain bin hunter extraordinaire as the window closes.

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Gareth88 said:

Sky just don't like us

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Hotspur_Hero said:

That just goes to show that for the first time I can remember at least we actually had a transfer plan AND executed it. Normally our plans fall through and we play bargain bin hunter extraordinaire as the window closes.

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yankspurs said:

Eh. Im not sure theres a change at FB. Im not sure KWP or Aurier are worse than Tripps. We managed to keep Rose which is MASSIVE. Sessegnon should add depth at LB and WF.

This window hinges on Eriksen. If he signs on, its great. If he doesnt or is sold in the next few weeks, January becomes a month where Daniel will have to open those purse strings again in a big way.

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scottlag10 said:

Massive shout out to Dan Kirkpatrick who called all four transfers at the end of May....now that's ITK !

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Bulletspur said:

More importantly, who is Dan Kirkpatrick?

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