Harry Kane

fishhhandaricecake said:

Sorry H but no coincidence you’ve gone to Bayern and they won’t win a trophy for the first time in many years.

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fishhhandaricecake said:

‘Harry Kane teams’ don’t win.

They focus too much on Kane.

Also I’ve said it before, I don’t think he’s that strong mentally and I think his energy can bring others down, he’s just so vanilla.

Sorry H but no coincidence you’ve gone to Bayern and they won’t win a trophy for the first time in many years.

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fishhhandaricecake said:

Won’t happen but I wonder what the split would be of our fans if asked if they’d want to take Kane back for next season or not.

Some will say he is what we are missing for the next level.

For me I don’t agree and don’t want him back.

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rossdapep said:

Gonna have to give a massive disagree to this I am afraid, mate. Only because I was told something last week.

Kane and Dier are the most professional players at Bayern and with the most elite mentality.

No ego, they play the way the coach asks, train 100%, a pleasure to deal with and they work over time.

Tuchel wanted to sign even more English players last summer because he was not happy with a lot of them at the club.

This person told me, and he is REALLY close to this situation, that the English boys are a dream to coach and Tuchel wants to coach back in England for this reason.

It now makes so much sense why Dier went there, not the best defender but could have been the start of a new group in the changing room.

Combined with what Klose said last week, you can then read into the rest.

Bayern have been on a downhill trend for a couple of years, the German older players conrol too much and they have signed too many egos - it's just there wasn't a team anywhere close to them to challenge them, now there is.

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ItsBoris said:

I recently watched that All or nothing documentary following the German national team in Qatar, and some of what you're saying there is definitely recognizable in what was portrayed in that docu.

Overall, they seemed to have very little drive or enthusiasm, and individually (just my cursory impression) I thought Kimmich and Goretzka seemed like trouble. Kimmich a very undiplomatic character and Goretzka was indignant that Gundogan was starting in front of him. Muller on the other hand seemed like a good guy.

I'll add the caveat that it's hard to know if you're really getting the right impression of individuals in these sorts of things but that's just how I was struck.

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rossdapep said:

Yeah, this is where Kimmich was saying he didn't like Flick's set-up right? And then started to disagreeing.

I think Tuchel fell out with him earlier in the season.

I haven't been told anything but you can read between the lines.

I was told that there is a lot of arrogance that runs through the club.

When you consider all those factors and Harry STILL has scored a record amount of goals you really cannot place any thing about mentality on his doorstep.

He is just incredibly unlucky about the timing.

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ItsBoris said:

That is madness, I'd take him back in a heartbeat. You don't say no to a 30+ goals per season striker (who is also a great playmaker) especially one who is so much part of our club.

Take Kane out and we're just as good if not better than Bayern. Going to Germany was stupid, even if he wins a Bundesliga next year my question is - who really cares? He should come back, help us win a trophy that actually matters, and break Shearer's record.

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Danny1 said:

Would I take Kane back, without a bloody doubt I would. Can you imagine the difference he would make playing for us this season. The guy scored 4 goals in his last preseason game if I remember correctly. We could probably add 10-12 points to our season with Kane in the team, putting us right in the title race.

However, do I think it will happen. No.

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Styopa said:

Yeah undoubtedly he would make a massive difference, he’s world class.

But the problem was we had got stuck in a rut with him. The club was going nowhere during his final four seasons here. Kane the player was not responsible for that but arguably Kane the man was.

From the outside it looked like we made some seriously badly thought out managerial appointments to appease Kane. Those appointments set the club back four or five years. Then there was the whole Man C debacle and the Neville interview which cast a shadow over the whole club. Then there was this whole attitude around the club (including among our own fans) that we were terrible and would be mid table or relegated without Kane. Finally, Kane left at his first opportunity to do so.

How can you build anything given all of the above?

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