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‘Unfair’: Simon Jordan slams the media for treating Spurs man differently to Arsenal rival

mawspurs

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Simon Jordan told talkSPORT that there is a ‘campaign’ against Tottenham boss Jose Mourinho and he is being treated differently to someone like Mikel Arteta at Arsenal.

Source: HITC
 

Locotoro

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As much as I used to dislike Simon Jordan he talks so much sense with a lot of his commentary
 

spursfan77

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I‘ve been saying it since Mourinho has been appointed. If he had us languishing in midtable and Mourinho had dropped Kane for turning up late for a match and been dropped the papers would of gone to town on him. Arteta does it with Abaumayang and there’s hardly a whisper about it.
 

Shadydan

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I‘ve been saying it since Mourinho has been appointed. If he had us languishing in midtable and Mourinho had dropped Kane for turning up late for a match and been dropped the papers would of gone to town on him. Arteta does it with Abaumayang and there’s hardly a whisper about it.

Jose is painted as a villain in the media whilst others are painted as good guys, whether that's from his previous jobs and the way he acted in the past, whether that's just the general perception of him we know that people buy into this particular narrative and - love him or hate him that's the baggage he brings to Tottenham, Utd fans were complaining about the same thing.
 

al_pacino

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Jose is painted as a villain in the media whilst others are painted as good guys, whether that's from his previous jobs and the way he acted in the past, whether that's just the general perception of him we know that people buy into this particular narrative and - love him or hate him that's the baggage he brings to Tottenham, Utd fans were complaining about the same thing.

Obviously the football hasn't been great but baggage is Mourinhos biggest problem by far. Everything is over analysed to the point where not much more than speaking to his former captain becomes a flogging offence.
 

wakefieldyid

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I‘ve been saying it since Mourinho has been appointed. If he had us languishing in midtable and Mourinho had dropped Kane for turning up late for a match and been dropped the papers would of gone to town on him. Arteta does it with Abaumayang and there’s hardly a whisper about it.
It's worse than that. The press coverage that followed Arteta's decision to drop PEA was generally supportive, along the lines that "the Arsenal players need to understand who's the boss, and that they can't expect to take liberties".
 

TOLBINY

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The media write stuff about Jose that they know will spark a reaction from him - that reaction is the fuel they need to sell papers / advertising / clicks. By and large it is best to ignore them.
 

vuzp

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I‘ve been saying it since Mourinho has been appointed. If he had us languishing in midtable and Mourinho had dropped Kane for turning up late for a match and been dropped the papers would of gone to town on him. Arteta does it with Abaumayang and there’s hardly a whisper about it.
the thing about that is that they got the result against us so in the end it was the right move.
but in general yes they are not getting as much stick as us.
 

14/04/91

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They're at totally different stages in their careers so will be treated differently.

If Arteta is still managing at the top in 15 years' time, he won't get such an easy ride especially if he's upset a few journos along the way.
 

HodisGawd

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Everything is always the fault of "the media"... No-one ever looks further than that and accepts responsibility. Of course, Mourinho comes with a lot of baggage and will always - and rightly - be scrutinised. And of course, Arteta will be treated differently, because he is a different manager at a different stage of his career, at a different club with different expectations. But hey, let's go on a rant about something, what's the easiest target?
 

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spursgirls

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We also know that Michael Oliver gives Jose's teams more red cards that other refs do.

I posted this in the Erik Lamela thread too...
Did any one see the Everton v City game yesterday? I only watched a few minutes of it, but saw Fernandinho throw out an arm and hit Richarlison on the chin with his elbow. Play went on for a few seconds until Michael Oliver stopped play as it was a 'head injury'. The trainer came on, and this is where i got really annoyed. There was no booking and the game was restarted with a dropped ball. The commentators said it was an accident, yet it was almost identical to Lamela's second yellow the other day. If anything, this was worse as it was an elbow, not a forearm, yet the same referee decided this wasn't a yellow. There's also the inconsistency with the commentating as Lamela was 'stupid' to do that, yet Fernandinho's was 'an accident'.

https://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?posts/7257426/reactions&reaction_id=5
 

hughy

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As much as I used to dislike Simon Jordan he talks so much sense with a lot of his commentary
I said a long time ago how often I find myself agreeing with almost every word he says. It's a shame to listen to him you're also forced to listen to the absolute disgrace that is Jim White.
 

Locotoro

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I said a long time ago how often I find myself agreeing with almost every word he says. It's a shame to listen to him you're also forced to listen to the absolute disgrace that is Jim White.
Funny story, I met Jim White about 2 years ago. First thing he said "Hi I'm Jim White, do you like my nose? I just had it done!"
To which I said, "yep, nice nose".

End of the story
 

PLTuck

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It always pisses me off slightly that MotD commentators always seems to show Jose after a goal is scored and he is just sitting watching, with the "narrative" that he's grumpy or still not happy or whatever.

When in fact, Jose himself has said he doesn't smile much on the bench as he is too focussed on analysing what's happening/happened to smile for the cameras.

Even my partner is like "You're winning, why does he look so grumpy?"
 

Neon_Knight_

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They're at totally different stages in their careers so will be treated differently.

If Arteta is still managing at the top in 15 years' time, he won't get such an easy ride especially if he's upset a few journos along the way.
In any industry, if two manager's are achieving mediocrity, there is more justification in giving time to the one who has more experience and a stronger track record. If an inexperienced manager underachieves, they are normally required to go away to get more experience, rather than being left to continue underachieving in a role that they appear to not be ready for. The media is very much going against this logic.

I don't see this as a media agenda against Mourinho, but a long-term disparity in how Arsenal and Tottenham are treated by the media.

If we had hired a well-respected former player instead of Mourinho, do you think the media would be giving them a free ride? My guess is the appointment would be criticised and holes would be picked in every subpar performance.

We are doing better in the league than last season and are in a cup final. Whatever opinions people have about our style of play, our results are evidence of improvement. Our manager has one of the strongest track records in football history, which is strong evidence that he is capable of improving us further.
Arsenal are doing worse than us and their manager has no prior success to evidence he's capable of turning things around. Last season was Arsenal's worst league finish for 25 years and they are currently on track to finish even lower this season. What justification is there for Arsenal's board to stick with him? Does winning a domestic cup really make up for their regression in the league?

It's common sense that anyone without bias should be more critical of Arteta and Arsenal than they are of Mourinho and Tottenham.
The media has an odd habit of perceiving us as massively underachieving any time top 4 is in doubt, despite having predicted us finishing outside the top 4 at the start of each season. Conversely, Arsenal seem to be considered to be doing ok while languishing in mid-table, despite much of the media predicting a challenge fro top 4 off the back of their cup win.
 
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