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A legitimate criticism of Aaron Lennon?

WhiteStripe

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And apart from that, how has he improved? I want examples.

Aaron has pretty much improved every area of his game over the last year or so.

Defensively he is now one of the hardest working wingers in the EPL. A real issue he had at one stage.

He has started to add a plan B to his game, no longer just running blindly to the byline.

His control of a football has become one of the best in the team.

His variety of final balls has improved.

He gets in good goalscoring positions.
 

jonathanhotspur

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His final ball is much better, he can put in a half decent cross from time to time, and he scores the odd goal.

He also tracks back a good bit, but I'm not sure if that is something he has added

Is it really much better? From time to time, eh? I suppose that'll do, eh?

Ramos added the tracking back-that's old news, and a basic requirement.
 

WhiteStripe

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What are these different types of final ball, WS?

Lennon used to run full pelt as close the byline as possible and wrap his foot around the ball into the box. That was predominantly his game.

Lennon now seems to think a lot more when it comes to his delivery, so we have seen a variety of chances come from a variety of balls. Not always the correct option is chosen, or executed, but he will now think about his choice more. We now get dinked chips, low driven balls, cutbacks, high backpost punts, cutting inside and shooting etc where we once just got, run fast, hit ball toward box.
 

roosh

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Is it really much better? From time to time, eh? I suppose that'll do, eh?

Ramos added the tracking back-that's old news, and a basic requirement.

His final ball is infinitely better than what it was. I would agree with you in one sense, that he is far from world class, or far from being complete, but he is still a good player.

There are things he could work on, that would improve him no end, but he is still an asset. Mind you, I would sooner start him on the bench to accommodate Hudd and Sandro in midfield, with Kaboul at right back.
 

Yid-ol

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His final ball is infinitely better than what it was. I would agree with you in one sense, that he is far from world class, or far from being complete, but he is still a good player.

There are things he could work on, that would improve him no end, but he is still an asset. Mind you, I would sooner start him on the bench to accommodate Hudd and Sandro in midfield, with Kaboul at right back.


i would want them in midfield also, i can see the team next year maybe being

-----------New keeper?
New RB---Kaboul---Dawson---BAE
------Hudd----Sandro---Modric
Lennon-------------------------Bale
---------------New Striker

or in games that we are to be more attacking, dropping Sandro and putting VDV in behind the striker.

I dont think Lennon is bad enough to drop, he has improved in the last season, i think the real problem is our forwards are a bit lazy and stupid at times not making the correct run's. Lennon also needs to take lessons from bale on how to beat a man and run passed him, we all know Lennon can do this (ac away) but doesnt do this enough
 

cusop

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Lennon is bloody marvelous, he is incredible, he has everything you would want in a right wing, what a steal at million quid. If sold today he would be worth 25 to 1 his original price.
Lennon can do many things that Bale cannot. He can change direction at pace more effectively and Bale does that extremely well too.

Lennon makes the trip to the Lane worth while. Jonathon you are so wrong about Lennon, If Rose could be half as good as Lennon he would be great! if the pony at left back was a 1/3 as good as Lennon I would not complain. Lennon has guile, speed, a good cross and he shoots both left and right, he is winner. If Jenas was 1/20th of Lennon he would still be shit but then I am biased!!
 

Knarf44

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Jeez Cusop, you've definitely been watching a different Lennon to the rest of us!

Are you related to him?
 

jonathanhotspur

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Lennon used to run full pelt as close the byline as possible and wrap his foot around the ball into the box. That was predominantly his game.

Lennon now seems to think a lot more when it comes to his delivery, so we have seen a variety of chances come from a variety of balls. Not always the correct option is chosen, or executed, but he will now think about his choice more. We now get dinked chips, low driven balls, cutbacks, high backpost punts, cutting inside and shooting etc where we once just got, run fast, hit ball toward box.

When have you ever seen Aaron Lennon wrap his foot around a ball?
 

jonathanhotspur

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His final ball is infinitely better than what it was. I would agree with you in one sense, that he is far from world class, or far from being complete, but he is still a good player.

There are things he could work on, that would improve him no end, but he is still an asset. Mind you, I would sooner start him on the bench to accommodate Hudd and Sandro in midfield, with Kaboul at right back.

If his final ball is now infinitely better than it was, then it must have been off-the-scale-godawful to begin with.

He's an asset, no doubt. But should he be an automatic starter in a side looking to do more than make up the numbers?
 

spursontheloose

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If his final ball is now infinitely better than it was, then it must have been off-the-scale-godawful to begin with.

He's an asset, no doubt. But should he be an automatic starter in a side looking to do more than make up the numbers?

Lennons final ball has got better compared to a couple of seasons ago where it was.... maybe not "off-the-scale-godawful" but it was definatly not the best!
This is one area where he can still get better but as others have said he now can deliver different kinds of balls into the box... chipped, low, cutback... etc whereas before he seemed in a hurry to release the ball which would end up with not such a good cross or it would go to the opposition. He still needs to get his head up a bit quicker sometimes to see where the strikers are.
Other than that I can't really critisise him and wouldnt want to sell him as I believe that he can still be the complete player or at least very near the complete player that most think he can be!
 

roosh

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If his final ball is now infinitely better than it was, then it must have been off-the-scale-godawful to begin with.

He's an asset, no doubt. But should he be an automatic starter in a side looking to do more than make up the numbers?

His final ball used to be off-the-scale-godawful!

I'm probably in agreement with you, with regards Lennon; I wouldn't start him either. I would prefer to see Sandro as a holding midfielder with Bale on the left, Hudd and Modric in centre with VDV in an advanced inside-right position, with Kaboul at right back.
 

cusop

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Arron your crap mate cos. SC itk say so.. please don't go.. Please don't go..
 

Viva la Tottenham

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Lennon is bloody marvelous, he is incredible, he has everything you would want in a right wing, what a steal at million quid. If sold today he would be worth 25 to 1 his original price.
Lennon can do many things that Bale cannot. He can change direction at pace more effectively and Bale does that extremely well too.

Lennon makes the trip to the Lane worth while. Jonathon you are so wrong about Lennon, If Rose could be half as good as Lennon he would be great! if the pony at left back was a 1/3 as good as Lennon I would not complain. Lennon has guile, speed, a good cross and he shoots both left and right, he is winner. If Jenas was 1/20th of Lennon he would still be shit but then I am biased!!


stalker alert :lol:
 

roosh

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perfect example of that problem with Lennon on about 4mins against liverpool. Kaboul had the ball and there was a lot of space in behind the full back, but Lennon just hugged the touchline and received the ball to feet. Didn't offer himself in behind the full-back
 

brett.spurs

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He often makes that run in behind the fullback though, maybe he didn't have confidence in Kaboul to execute the pass like Charlie does.
 

roosh

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He often makes that run in behind the fullback though, maybe he didn't have confidence in Kaboul to execute the pass like Charlie does.

he only ever makes the run after the pass is played, and it seems to be only when Charlie is playing. Now, charlie isn't going to play every game. it doesn't matter though, if he made the run more often, then the full-back is going to be more wary of keeping so close to him, so he will start to drop a yard to cover the run, and Lennon would get more space that way. Also, Kaboul may be waiting for Lennon to make the run, before playing the pass, so he knows where to play it.

he doesn't always have to receive the pass either though, just make the run, because he creates space then for Kaboul to run into as well.
 

jonathanhotspur

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perfect example of that problem with Lennon on about 4mins against liverpool. Kaboul had the ball and there was a lot of space in behind the full back, but Lennon just hugged the touchline and received the ball to feet. Didn't offer himself in behind the full-back

His poor off the ball movement has got on my tits today.
 

brett.spurs

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he only ever makes the run after the pass is played, and it seems to be only when Charlie is playing. Now, charlie isn't going to play every game. it doesn't matter though, if he made the run more often, then the full-back is going to be more wary of keeping so close to him, so he will start to drop a yard to cover the run, and Lennon would get more space that way. Also, Kaboul may be waiting for Lennon to make the run, before playing the pass, so he knows where to play it.

he doesn't always have to receive the pass either though, just make the run, because he creates space then for Kaboul to run into as well.

Disagree, classic example was the penalty he won vs Arsenal.
 

Dannyspur

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he needs to learn some new tricks - defenders who just stand up in front of him tend to get the ball.
 
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