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A Stoof in the Shelf: Manchester United (H)

Stoof

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I'll tell you all one thing. It's a lot easier to write a match report on the back of a glorious last minute winner, or a trouncing of a title-fancied side in the sunshine.

I won't bore you all with stories of no Victoria line and multiple buses because I've done that in my last two efforts - all that you need to know was that I was safe and sound in the Bell & Hare and the hour was the 16th of the day. A good two hours before kick-off.

I don't like the 5:30 kick-offs. There's something wrong with them. It's not quite as annoying as a 1:30 kick-off when you end up sharing your boiled egg and soldiers with a can of Strongbow in order to get in any sort of alcohol. But I still think supporters still can't judge it quite right - there were a lot of quite pissed people (more than usual). And I should know. I was well on the way to being one of them!!

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Keane on the left was interesting. I've never been a real believer in him playing any other role than striker or support striker (and I love the guy). It seems many others don't love him though, as throughout the game he was battered by the fans for doing things that plenty of our players were guilty of: giving the ball away; sloppy passes, etc., but they escaped abuse where Keane didn't. I won't go into a rant about Keane and the love/hate thing that exists amongst supporters, though. As my view is increasingly unpopular.

But we started the game with a roar of the crowd: full of passion; full of beer. And soon we were roaring louder. A cross-field ball to Crouch, flicked back towards goal slightly behind Defoe. Shame. If it was in front of him he probably would have ... SCORED A GREAT GOAL. Defoe, showing technique beyond his years, defied gravity and majestically bicycle-kicked Spurs into the lead. In the first minute. Pandemonium broke out and no-one could quite believe what they'd just seen. It's like that goal you could score on World Cup 1998 on the N64; beating three players with different moves before flicking the ball over your player's head and scoring a bicycle kick with that same player straight from kick-off!

Now I'm of the school of thought that you can really piss off the title-challengers into playing some great football. I'm no manager myself, but scoring a first minute bicycle-kick against the Champions is going to really annoy them. There's a difference between sneaking past a wasps' nest that you've just found in your greenhouse and going in with a fire extinguisher in each hand, doing your impression of Billy The Kid.

Unfortunately we'd rattled the waspish United, and from that moment on (remember: the first minute) we took our script and accepted our role as extra.

As I said last week, Crouch's impact in our team gives everyone a quick route out of responsibility. They hit long balls aimed in his general direction - despite this not being his forté (Defoe bicycle-kicks aside) - and this destroys our good football. We had one move of note which involved some neat interplay - and with the score still at 1-0, Crouch's rolled ball across the face of the goal was begging to be finished, but Defoe scuffed his shot. I looked to the right of me: "he should've scored"; I looked behind me: "he should've f**king scored". He should have scored. But 2-0 may have really annoyed them.

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[/al]It was a great free kick from Ryan Giggs. I asked the question of Jimbo at half-time if he thought Gomes (being that bit taller) would have got one of his eight legs to it. Maybe, he said. Maybe. I thought he might have saved it - although that's quite harsh on Cudicini.

So the half drifted on, and the voices from the Lane had a hint of disgruntledness about them. It was bad enough sharing the points with Birmingham for so long, to be sharing them so early with United obviously ruffled some. We missed Modric, and we missed a fully functional Palacios - seemingly put-off by Fergie's pre-match praise.

Whatever else it was, we weren't all there and United were playing like the home team, ably assisted by the man in black who refused to see past his red goggles.

Soon enough, United were ahead. There was a sense of inevitability about it all. We seem to take the lead against this mob quite frequently, and then somehow capture defeat from the jaws of victory. I think from the moment Anderson rammed his shot home, we'd lost any say in the match and that's what it felt like in the collective anyway.

At half-time we knew we needed to do something different, and the introduction of Jenas for the first time this season had the potential to be that something different. How wrong was that theory? Although fair credit to JJ, he runs his socks off and he does add an energy to a deflated team. His effort was somehow tipped over by Foster and at that stage the crowd were left with that 'if-only' feeling that haunted us for much of the late nineties.

The referee, who was roundly booed for most of the game, then gave us the sort of break we rarely get against the Red Devils. Scholes sent off for tackling like he has done since his career began. Reading the post-match comments on my mobile - with Fergie outraged - I couldn't help but think of all of his tackles he's gone unpunished for. Both tackles were yellow cards and in this game, two yellows = one red. It was a clearcut decision that was well made by a poor referee. This gave us a way back in.

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Crouchy should have scored. And I really mean that. That sort of chance, for a man his size (despite heading ability) should be a goal and at 2-2 (although probably an undeserved 2-2 for our general play) we'd have been back in the game - especially as by that time, United would have been down to 10 men.

2-2 with 10 men as opposed to 1-2 with 10 men is a completely different ball game for me, and considering his impact to our team has been generally positive, I was surprised that Crouch hadn't stuck that header in as opposed to against the bar. The "HE SHOULD HAVE SCOREDs" were back echoing around a frustrated Lane - all worryingly familiar.

Hutton, meanwhile, still struggling to impress me, found himself with a Rooney to contend with. Rooney then proceeded to knock the ball through his legs, and wrongfoot a dumbfounded Cudicini - and any rays of hope that had been daring to shimmer over Tottenham Hotspur clouded over. The atmosphere died, and people started to leave.

A positive to take from the game was that Niko Kranjcar completed his first minutes in our colours. And he looked a lot livelier than Mr Keane on the left hand side. I was half-expecting Kranjcar to start - and in hindsight he probably should have. But then hindsight is a wonderful thing, a thing that keeps football pundits and journalist in a job.

In summary, a slightly lacklustre report to accompany a lacklustre Spurs performance. We left too much space for United to exploit, and this was evident even when they had 10 men. I'd hoped we'd lost our habit of giving the 'Big Four' so much respect and time - and I think on the whole we have. There's just something about Spurs vs. United games - and there's a reason we haven't beaten them in 19 games; and considering the strength of our current squad it's clearly psychological.

So positives: Kranjcar debut and Defoe bicycle-kick (a truly great technical goal).

Negatives: the rest of it.

Stay tuned for a hopefully happier report from our next home game. Have a great week, readers. :)
 

Woody10

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Cheers Stoof,

Soundly reported what was felt by most of us i think!!

Poor performance, but just like the 4 wins, we shouldnt get too carried away with this result, we were poor, they were good (ish), bring on Chelski!
 

JonnySpurs

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Perfect report that one Stoof. I saw the game in exactly the same way as you did so that's good to know, for me anyway.

Seems as though the lads weren't all fully back from international break and it showed. Shame though cos I don't believe Man Utd are 3-1 better than us, we should've drawn with them really, even if they were the better team by a little bit at least.
 

supachan

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Agree with near enough everything youve said there mate , apart from the fact that Kranjcar spent about as much time on the left as Mr.Keane (NONE). Although i would prefer him in the team as a left wing or rotating with Lennon left n right.

Also the Jenas debate again . I aint got much time for him anyway far to overated in my opinion , but sticking him with Huddlestone in the middle dont work , this has proved in previous seasons time n time again . Rant over
 

onlyonekeano

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Good article, fair reflection of the game. A few further thoughts from a different perspective:

- People saying that we perhaps should have drawn are maybe forgetting the fact that we could have been 3 or 4 down by half-time. Cudicini made some top drawer saves and there was one incident which saw a brilliant save, a clearance off the line and a glaring miss in the space of 30 seconds.

- You note how Crouch in the team gives our players an excuse to not play football, but I also think it's worth mentioning that Crouch himself was very effective in the first half especially and caused Rio/Vidic a lot of problems. On another day, some of his excellent hold-up play may have resulted in more goals.

- A small point about Redknapp - why did he not think to try Lennon on the left for a bit? It was clear that Evra had learned a lot from the Cup Final roasting that Lennon gave him, and had a great game defensively in nullifying Lennon's threat. When it was clear that Lennon was getting no luck, why not give him a run at O'Shea instead?
 

fridgemagnet

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Why are there still idiots putting energy into booing Berbatov? Get over it and I dunno maybe put your energy into getting behind your own team.

I don't know if it's a hangover from his Chelsea days but Cudicini always seems to play it route one rather than play it out from the back which Gomes does and our build up play is better (with Gomes) Am I the only one that sees this?

Personally I think 'arry should have bought Bentley on for Keane and switched Lennon over to the left in the Modric free role.

What I was disappointed with was that it seemed that from when the foul was given that Giggs scored from i.e before the kick was even taken, our heads dropped and the players all seemed to say well that's that we've lost this one because the Ref's a red.

I don't even remember seeing an increase in desire after the red card.

So: Curse the international break as i think that stopped our momentum

Curse of manager of the month, curse our lack of self belief against Manure (although i hope to be proved it was just jet lag)

And Vidic is a dirty cynical ****

Roll on Chelsea
 

Son_Of

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for me keane should start up front or not at all. there's better options in kranjcar or bentley even while mod is out.

i'd love to hold on to a lead against united one day

supachan how can jenas be overrated when most of you think he's pony?! i think he's okay, not triffic, but underrated if anything.

oh well, we'll do chelsea
 

spursLA

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I think a lot of our problems were due to Keane on the left not being enough of a threat to pull Fletcher wide, letting the whole Utd side shift right and so denying Lennon space. We need a proper wide left - and we're really going to need one against Chelsea who clog the midfield by playing no wingers. I think it has to be GDS, Rose isn't up to it and we didn't buy Petrov or McGeady. But it won't be. It'll be Keane again and we'll lose at the Bridge.
 

spud

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Nice job, Mr. Stoof.

One thing that has surprised me since the game is that, as far as I can tell, absolutely nobody has commented on the foul awarded against Palacios that led to the first goal. If I was the ref I would have given it at the time, but the replays that I have seen showed that there was zero / minimal contact with Berbatov, who simply flung himself to the ground.

Has the game sunk to such a low level that we don't even bother commenting on cheating if it looks at first glance as if it was a foul?

Just a thought.
 

Dundalk_Spur

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I agree with Spud but also to add that Vidic should have gone in the first half for two yellows never mind a red for the elbow on Crouch in the second.

By that time however Scholes had taken the refs balls off the pitch with him and handed them to Baconface.
 

frosteye

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Im defo with you on that I think Gomes would have saved Giggs' freekick. On the reply you can see Cudicini juuust isnt tall enough (or have ong enough arms)!

If you remember the save Gomes done form Giggs last year, the ball was right in the top corner and he still got his hand to it.

Not that it makes much diff now. Just another one of them "if only" type moments!
 
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