Andros Townsend

[Matrix]

OBJECTIVELY, you are chatting shit since according to squawka he has had in the PL 8 shots, 5 on target, 1 off target and 2 blocked

Look at the last couple of matches and its been apparent he hasn't been shooting as much
Against United he just had 2 shots(all on target)
Against Chelsea he just had one shot(it was on target and a goal)
Against Crystal Palace he took no shots

These stats are from Squawka and verified by using whoscored

So as I said mate, objectively you're chatting shit

Yeah he had shots when the pass was a better option. He has to learn to know when to shoot and when to pass. At the moment he doesn't have a Scooby.

 

[beats1]

Yeah he had shots when the pass was a better option. He has to learn to know when to shoot and when to pass. At the moment he doesn't have a Scooby.

This season, I agree but not for the last 3 games. He changed his game back to how it use to be but isn't playing well

The only game I didn't watch was the palace game, I had it on but was working at the same time but considering he didn't shoot and setup kane for the eriksen chance. I don't know if that is true

 

[Matrix]

This season, I agree but not for the last 3 games. He changed his game back to how it use to be but isn't playing well

The only game I didn't watch was the palace game, I had it on but was working at the same time but considering he didn't shoot and setup kane for the eriksen chance. I don't know if that is true

Granted he has cut alot of it out of late. Let hope he continues and knows when to pass and when to shoot. He has all the attributes to frighten defenders if he gets into or around the box. He could easily draw fouls and get us a fair share of pens if he wised up.
It's a difficult situation. Do you cash in now while his stock is relatively high or do you wait till summer when clubs are no longer interested. Always wanted him to do well but you can see his thought process before he has. That makes defending against him quite easy.

 

[beats1]

Granted he has cut alot of it out of late. Let hope he continues and knows when to pass and when to shoot. He has all the attributes to frighten defenders if he gets into or around the box. He could easily draw fouls and get us a fair share of pens if he wised up.
It's a difficult situation. Do you cash in now while his stock is relatively high or do you wait till summer when clubs are no longer interested. Always wanted him to do well but you can see his thought process before he has. That makes defending against him quite easy.

For me recall pritchard and rotate him with townsend until has a fitness level similar to his teammates and got some sharpness back

Then give him a run of games and see if he cut it, if he cant then its good bye. Simple

As for people saying, oh he is 24, well there have been countless cases of players developing late. Pirlo was sold to AC Milan from Inter and he wasn't 24 before he became a first 11 player(and before someone says it was a high fee thats because of the scandal/scam that deal was involved with)

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Now I have seen everything - Townsend compared to Pirlo.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

For me recall pritchard and rotate him with townsend until has a fitness level similar to his teammates and got some sharpness back

Then give him a run of games and see if he cut it, if he cant then its good bye. Simple

As for people saying, oh he is 24, well there have been countless cases of players developing late. Pirlo was sold to AC Milan from Inter and he wasn't 24 before he became a first 11 player(and before someone says it was a high fee thats because of the scandal/scam that deal was involved with)

And where does Lamela fit in if Townsend and Pritchard are rotating?

prawnsandwich, this question is not directed to you.

 

[beats1]

And where does Lamela fit in if Townsend and Pritchard are rotating?

prawnsandwich, this question is not directed to you.

Lamela is first choice but currently Townsend is playing because we have no one else and hence why he played against Besiktas. I meant playing Pritchard instead of keep going to Townsend

Under Poch these are the players we have left that poch trusts at AM

Chadli Eriksen Lamela
------------------- Townsend
​

Lennon is out of favour or injured
Dembele is playing deeper as we only have Mason, Stambouli and Bentaleb
Kane is used further forward
Paulinho is doing alright but Kane is preferred to him it seems as Soldado would come on and move kane deeper

I would change that and go

Chadli -- Eriksen -- Lamela
Townsend -- Pritchard
​

Possibly Yedlin covering the right wing

 

[Lilywhiteinoz]

I'm this has been mentioned on numerous ocassions (both forums and coaching staff) - would like to see him trying to beat players on the outside rather than cutting back.

He has a strong right foot which Lamela does not. Again, siad plenty of times anywhere - this is a good opportunity for him to excel while Lamela is injured, but unfortunatley he is wasting the opportunity.

Over to you Andros, cut out the dross. Make the burnley game count as one of your best.

 

[Mr Pink]

Where did anyone disagree with you he hasn't been shit or poor?

You said "not much about his game to admire OBJECTIVELY", meaning that those who think he can make it and there is more to his game are biased then you tried to get out of it saying he hasn't done anything for the first team and doing for the youth doesnt mean he wont make the step up

I totally agree that playing well at youth football doesnt translate to him being at first team player. But we weren't talking about his quality, we were talking about aspects of his game and how he played his whole career bar the last season or so i.e. for England, Millwall, QPR, Leyton and the youth team

As I said literally half an hour ago, it would be more fair to judge him once he once a hundred percent and a run of games. As for having infinite more chances than Kane. They both been first team players for a season and half(since 2013). The amount each player has completed 45 mins is as follows
Townsend - 19 last season, 14 this season - 33
Kane - 8 last season, 20 this season - 28
So infinite is 5 it seems, ok

Also I showed before with the use of facts, I showed that he hasn't managed to complete 90mins and has only done so 7 times whereas Kane has 17 times. If you look at match's complete over the last two years, then Kane has completed 17 and Townsend has 16 times. So yes Kane has completed more matches for Tottenham than Townsend.

Have a word with myself, fuck off, I never said he hasn't played shit, to which he has. I did say he was one of our better players under AVB which he was, but then thats not saying much and my posts before

You said he shown "not much about his game to admire OBJECTIVELY" not about whether he is at the level of our first team.

So then I point to the fact that his game was different for youth teams as well as other teams, if you bothered looking at stats I mentioned you would of seen his game would of changed taking more shots and less crosses when he played under AVB. I was never talking about making the step up but the fact he was a different type of player but ignore that if you want.

As for not much to his game, he did show for the national team he played brilliantly and caused his fullbacks problems crossing the ball in to the box and finding his teammates whilst genuinely being a goal threat, scoring and hitting the post several times. Whilst some might say well he played against two bob teams, but then he was englands best player against Germany who went on to win the world cup. Of course people forget that because they are being so objective.

At QPR he showed he more to there is alot to his game since he did very well for them and was their best player and biggest threat.

Also if there is not much to his game why do managers like Hodgeson, Pochettino(despite not being fit), AVB, Harry and etc. continue to pick him?

What are you talking about! You're now telling me what I meant when I said there's not much to admire about his game when you think about it objectively - attaching your own personal definition to what I've said and now trying to claim I'm trying to get out of it! Scraping the barrel or what lol.

It should be obvious that I meant his first team performances - which he's had loads of. And for the last time, IMO, there hasn't been much to admire. If you think differently based on what you've seen years ago at youth level that's your prerogative of course but there's no point in taking this conversation further.

 

[dagraham]

I'd like someone to explain to me what Townsend is good at. And I mean for Spurs, not at under 21 level or a handful of QPR games.

As far as I can see, his strengths are being two footed, being direct and prepared to have a go (which most of the time is misguided and completely the wrong thing to do) and having a powerful shot (which is usually off target and very rarely translates into a goal).

 

[Gassin's finest]

I'd like someone to explain to me what Townsend is good at. And I mean for Spurs, not at under 21 level or a handful of QPR games.

As far as I can see, his strengths are being two footed, being direct and prepared to have a go (which most of the time is misguided and completely the wrong thing to do) and having a powerful shot (which is usually off target and very rarely translates into a goal).

Would have been amazing in my old Sunday League team...

 

[parklane1]

I'd like someone to explain to me what Townsend is good at. And I mean for Spurs, not at under 21 level or a handful of QPR games.

As far as I can see, his strengths are being two footed, being direct and prepared to have a go (which most of the time is misguided and completely the wrong thing to do) and having a powerful shot (which is usually off target and very rarely translates into a goal).

The problem with Townsend is that after nearly 70 games for the first team he does not seem to be learning, fans keep talking about his potential and making all sorts of excuses for him but they will not, do not work with the majority of fans who I talk to at the games.

We would all like to see him become a top player but unless he really starts getting his head up and stop the push and run, then turn round and go back again, the running into dead ends, gets a better appreciation of where other players are he will never improve his game. As I say nearly 70 games and he does not seem to understand its a team game not a stage for him to TRY and prove he is the new Bale.

 

[nidge]

Just had a look out of boredom and found this interesting.

2012/13 in 12 apps for QPR Townsend attempted 35 shots on goal. Almost 3 shots a game.

2013/14 in 33 apps for us Townsend attempted 69 shots on goal. A tiny bit over 2 shots a game.

Not really sure how he could be told to shoot more often than his time at QPR and then actually shot less?

 

[OPModric]

Andros clearly isn't bright enough to improve his game. Nothing has happend for him in several years.

He has skills, as do Rose, but they are just runners with fairly good technique. They do not understand the game.

Pritchard probably miles ahead of Andros already.

 

[michaelden]

Just had a look out of boredom and found this interesting.

2012/13 in 12 apps for QPR Townsend attempted 35 shots on goal. Almost 3 shots a game.

2013/14 in 33 apps for us Townsend attempted 69 shots on goal. A tiny bit over 2 shots a game.

Not really sure how he could be told to shoot more often than his time at QPR and then actually shot less?

any on target as yet?

 

[michaelden]

Andros clearly isn't bright enough to improve his game. Nothing has happend for him in several years.

He has skills, as do Rose, but they are just runners with fairly good technique. They do not understand the game.

Pritchard probably miles ahead of Andros already.

He reminds me a bit of Zebina http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Zebina

A good athlete but crap brain and little else to recommend him

 

[dagraham]

Andros clearly isn't bright enough to improve his game. Nothing has happend for him in several years.

He has skills, as do Rose, but they are just runners with fairly good technique. They do not understand the game.

Pritchard probably miles ahead of Andros already.

I don't think he even has particularly good technique. Granted, he can strike a ball with both feet, but his first touch is just shit, unlike Lennon who's first touch and ball control is very good.

Unfortunately, Lennon cannot strike the ball well from distance, but as Townsend's shots rarely trouble the keeper anyway it's not even much of an advantage.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

any on target as yet?

the QPR ones have hit Martian soil but ours all just ended up on the roof of Archway Metal Works

 

[Insomnia]

He had a shocker on saturday, his second touch was a tackle, I felt he should of come off after 25 mins, truly awful & it was like we had 10 men on the pitch.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

the QPR ones have hit Martian soil but ours all just ended up on the roof of Archway Metal Works

Actually one of his shots while at QPR did make it to Mars, and came back down, destroying Archway Metal Works upon landing on re-entry.

It's little known, but he has actually been aiming for Archway under strict orders from Daniel Levy. So technically his shooting is actually incredibly accurate.