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Bluto Blutarsky

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Didn’t say there was anything wrong with that. Depends on what you want though. Play loads, contribute and develop yourself as a player or play the occasional league cup game, pick up a winners medal (that you’ve not really earned) and get paid loads. Personally I’d rather play. Others might just want the cash.
Its always easy to sit behind a screen and declare you would rather play - its a different story altogether when someone is offering you a fat contract at a big club.
 

Trix

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Problem with American owners is they are clueless about the sport. Foolish decisions being made at Chelsea.
What I don't understand is they are hugely successful business men first and foremost. In any business the most important thing is getting the best possible people in to manage each area of that business. In football that very basic managerial decision just seems to have been thrown out the window.
 

Snarfalicious

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Problem with American owners is they are clueless about the sport. Foolish decisions being made at Chelsea.

I think that’s a little unfair. If it’s within FFP, I don’t see anything wrong with Chelsea’s business. Sure, the numbers maybe aren’t what we all view as fair market value, but being willing to spend big isn’t necessarily a bad thing in itself. If we were in their shoes, I can guarantee we would all be loving it. Other than Aubameyang. Now that shit is unequivocally dumb.
 

Tucker

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Problem with American owners is they are clueless about the sport. Foolish decisions being made at Chelsea.
Struggling to see why this is getting a disagree. The vast majority of American owners have been terrible for their clubs. Fenway at Liverpool are probably the only exception.
 

Dembele'Disciple

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I think that’s a little unfair. If it’s within FFP, I don’t see anything wrong with Chelsea’s business. Sure, the numbers maybe aren’t what we all view as fair market value, but being willing to spend big isn’t necessarily a bad thing in itself. If we were in their shoes, I can guarantee we would all be loving it. Other than Aubameyang. Now that shit is dumb.
All of it is dumb. They don't play with wide men but signed Sterling. They have a left wingback who's one of the best around but ended up paying loads for another one. Aubameyang might be their saving grace cause that team hasn't got folks who can put the ball in the back of the net. Infact we drew against them cause their attackers fire blanks.
 

ralphs bald spot

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American owners have won 6 PL titles since the last British owner...
yeah i don't get the dumb bit they have the money so they are spending it unlike us - part of me is a little bit jealous this is the side that a couple of weeks ago played us of the park they are now adding a young winger who we wanted and according to reports Leao from AC Milan and Fofana its the equivalent of them popping out for a meal at a top restaurant why we go down the wimpy bar looking at James from Leeds - -
 

Snarfalicious

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All of it is dumb. They don't play with wide men but signed Sterling. They have a left wingback who's one of the best around but ended up paying loads for another one. Aubameyang might be their saving grace cause that team hasn't got folks who can put the ball in the back of the net. Infact we drew against them cause their attackers fire blanks.

I definitely think the failure to have footballing people either implemented already or kept around is a strange decision. But I think it’s pretty silly to think Todd Boehly bellied up to his desk at CFC on his first day with a list of his own targets that he was ready to go all out for. He obviously consulted with the playing side at the club, so if they brought in Sterling, Koulibaly, Cucurella, it was done with Tuchel’s approval. So to say they don’t “fit” what they do is kind of a baseless claim as it likely was coming directly from the guy who picks the tactics/team. Or, they were the targets the previous regime had in mind going into the summer and Boehly is trying to show he means business, even if it is considered overpaying.
 

worcestersauce

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yeah i don't get the dumb bit they have the money so they are spending it unlike us - part of me is a little bit jealous this is the side that a couple of weeks ago played us of the park they are now adding a young winger who we wanted and according to reports Leao from AC Milan and Fofana its the equivalent of them popping out for a meal at a top restaurant why we go down the wimpy bar looking at James from Leeds - -
We drew at their ground, don't forget that. I think just because they seem to want to pay a fortune for Fofana that doesn't mean he's worth it, he really ain't that good.
 

ralphs bald spot

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We drew at their ground, don't forget that. I think just because they seem to want to pay a fortune for Fofana that doesn't mean he's worth it, he really ain't that good.
we drew but they played us of the park we were very fortunate to get a point and the players they are buying are improving their first x1 . Though we have done alright in the transfer market this summer only 1 of the signings has started a game so far, we have not addressed some obvious weaknesses in the side whilst all our rivals are making big buck signing. Obviously signings don't have to be big bucks but we have a top line manager who is playing with his hands tied compared to some of our rivals and ok we have started alright but the performances have been average at best
 

dontcallme

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21 year old, English, hometown boy, one of their better players with 3 years left on his contract. He's going to cost a fair amount.

I think he has a bit of skill, pace and work-rate but I don't see a player who's likely to develop into a top level player. But of course, this is very hard to judge.

I'd stay away from him, but if we do move then hoping for a deal around £30m just isn't going to happen.
 

worcestersauce

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we drew but they played us of the park we were very fortunate to get a point and the players they are buying are improving their first x1 . Though we have done alright in the transfer market this summer only 1 of the signings has started a game so far, we have not addressed some obvious weaknesses in the side whilst all our rivals are making big buck signing. Obviously signings don't have to be big bucks but we have a top line manager who is playing with his hands tied compared to some of our rivals and ok we have started alright but the performances have been average at best
And then got spanked by Leeds. I am a fan of Gordon but again I think you are overselling him.
Only one of our signings have started a game yes but that doesn't mean they are benchwarmers. If Gordon will improve the Chelsea first eleven then Perisic, Bissouma and Richarlison certainly would.
 

sundanceyid10

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A lot being made about the fee but Everton are not selling him for circa £30m. It is a very high fee but he is young and English and some of that fee is Chelsea gambling on his potential and the possibility of him improving a great deal.

For what’s it’s worth I’ve no idea how good he will go on to be, but what I’ve seen of him he looks a good player with lots of potential.
 

septicsac

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Yes 100%. The powers in charge gave them a transfer ban for breaching rules regarding player trading youth players, so I very much believe they will do the same for breaking FFP rules(should they do it). I keep reading posts saying clubs are breaking FFP regs but they aren't. In the early days City looked for loophole after loophole, but as the restrictions tightened up that has stopped. Newcastle the same.... All the money in the world but have to be careful how they spend it because of future implications. Chelsea and Arsenal are basically maxing out their credit cards now, and are playing a pretty risky hand of making CL next season or they could face a Summer of having to sell in order to buy anyone just like Everton and Leicester have this year.
And yet City get off when in front of the powers tat be the last time they were confronted and on a technicality based on the fact that it was beyond the timescale to take action?
I want to believe all you have stated above, but football is corrupt from the core and when the leaders of Fifa and Uefa have brought the game into disrepute so many times, when people like Abramovich and Newcastle owners are allowed into the game then it is hard to have faith in the system.
 

Super Pav

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Hope we're not involved at that sort of price,from what I've seen he's the sort of signing you'd make circa 20 million and hope he's one for the future,presumably I've obviously missed something with him but I haven't seen the creativity from him that surely should be our priority just now?
 

fridgemagnet

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I could see a chunk of this proposed £50-60 million fee to Everton ending up straight back into chavs bank account when Everton then buy a couple of chav outcasts or their promising youth players which Lampard will know all about/get mates rates on...
 

ralphs bald spot

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And then got spanked by Leeds. I am a fan of Gordon but again I think you are overselling him.
Only one of our signings have started a game yes but that doesn't mean they are benchwarmers. If Gordon will improve the Chelsea first eleven then Perisic, Bissouma and Richarlison certainly would.

but I wasn't only talking about Gordon I do think he is a good boy and will improve as a player he has got a very high ceiling imo seemingly as a few others think so as well the value thing is all relative to the money you have got at the end of the day -

for us though I think we have a really good manager with a plan but we need to take a chance in the transfer market sometimes and we haven't done it for years - as I say I think we have done ok in the market the 3 you mention are all good signings but the midfield needs a bit of variety its all very samey very safe it doesn't cause sides any problems, I like Hojberg but when you consider him your best attacking central midfield player that for me is a worry- people will bang about us not playing with an attacking option but on Saturday in the first half we needed someone to link the play and to cause them some questions all summer we were crying out for some quality at right back Emerson is a likeable player who has improved but is he really an attacking option for a top side ?- personally I wouldn't be so worried about centre half but even there we have spent all summer looking at some really good players, we have to wait and see on Lenglet but are Davinson and Davies going to win you things? again decent players but get exposed at the very top level

People looking at Chelsea and the others up with us yeah they have spent a lot but I think we need to take a chance who knows we might still but it doesn't look like it . We will do ok Conte has the nous and we have some really good players but to me this is an opportunity to go and have punt on a difference maker in the middle of the park - I think we have done alright padded ourselves out but don't people think we need to take a risk sometimes

The first few games ask all the same questions did ok against Southampton but the last two games the results were decent but I would like to see a bit more we are very functional I think that will only get you so far
 

Mr Pink

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They're paying double the price.

30 million for his potential would be good/fair business in both directions.

60 is just crazy.
 
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