Anyone here have contacts within our medical staff?

[Wirral Spurs]

I have come across a new recovery product called Firefly. I know QPR and Everton are using it, as are the Lions and assorted other rugby union and league teams. It is being widely used by Triathletes.

It works by stimulating the calf muscle and pumps blood around the lower leg. It greatly reduces recovery time required after hard training/matches and speeds up injury healing.

If anyone here has any personal contacts within the Club, please get them to look at it. I am sure it will help us.

www.fireflyrecovery.com is the website to check it out.

 

[Mattspur]

Do you work for Firefly by any chance?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Dude, if you know about it i'm sure the club will be aware of it, or a similar product. There are lots of gels and creams and wraps and stuff i've seen come and go through the physio i work with, it's literally mind boggling the number of treatments available to players nowadays.

If they don't, why not send over a CV?

Must admit though, seems a little odd to be pushing it on a forum when there are lots of ways to contact the club directly and ask for someone in their physio team, surely?

 

[Wirral Spurs]

Do you work for Firefly by any chance?

No but I am friendly with the CEO who updates me on its progress.

I am a passionate Spurs supporter and want us to have the best possible advantage.

 

[Wirral Spurs]

Dude, if you know about it i'm sure the club will be aware of it, or a similar product. There are lots of gels and creams and wraps and stuff i've seen come and go through the physio i work with, it's literally mind boggling the number of treatments available to players nowadays.

If they don't, why not send over a CV?

Must admit though, seems a little odd to be pushing it on a forum when there are lots of ways to contact the club directly and ask for someone in their physio team, surely?

No other product like it anywhere. It is very new and very definitely works.
I do not work for them but am aware of the product through its CEO who is a friend. I am completely genuine as a supporter, just want us to not lose any advantage.

 

[Bulletspur]

No other product like it anywhere. It is very new and very definitely works.
I do not work for them but am aware of the product through its CEO who is a friend. I am completely genuine as a supporter, just want us to not lose any advantage.

So your CEO friend gets a free plug at our expense? Hope he is not a gooner!

 

[Wirral Spurs]

So your CEO friend gets a free plug at our expense? Hope he is not a gooner!

Or we as a club benefit from early heads up on a new recovery product that is getting adopted by elite sportsmen.
Why be so cynical? It was a genuine request that I thought would help us.

 

[Mouse!]

Firefly? It wouldn't last more than a season.

 

[Bulletspur]

Or we as a club benefit from early heads up on a new recovery product that is getting adopted by elite sportsmen.
Why be so cynical? It was a genuine request that I thought would help us.

As another Poster said, it would be very unlikely that our medical would not know about it especially since other clubs use it. Also since there are other ways of relaying this to club (I am assuming that your CEO friend's company has a marketing dept) this IMO is not a forum to put this, hence my response.

 

[panoma]

Firefly? It wouldn't last more than a season.

Hope so for sheldons sake

 

[rhys]

I'm sure the club will be interested if it's any good. Which from the looks of the studies and the science, it probably isn't. Some of the studies 'proving' the technology are paid for by the company (so probably/could be biased), some use bizarre determiners like whether the player felt better at end as opposed to actual recover time to show effectiveness for example, and one looks at deep vein thrombosis formation - the device might be useful if you're on a plane, but not a professional athlete who is incredibly active!

 

[Marcus_spur]

Got to be careful with this kind of stuff. Remember that pro sports teams get payed to promote quackery all the time and athletes fall for it regularly. Power balance bands were big in rugby, Bale and olympic gymnasts used kinesio tape and several athletes promote useless supplements (aka. Expensive urine).

I've got to be honest and say that this looks to be in that category.
The trials are generally really poor, and are purely marekting trials, thus not being published in journals with peer review. The one that is a proper study has nothing to do with the product.

Flimsy trials and trials that aren't actually applicable, celebrity endorsements, a concept that is implausible based on other research... yeah, sorry but it sounds like a duck.

 

[Marcus_spur]

I'm sure the club will be interested if it's any good. Which from the looks of the studies and the science, it probably isn't. Some of the studies 'proving' the technology are paid for by the company (so probably/could be biased), some use bizarre determiners like whether the player felt better at end as opposed to actual recover time to show effectiveness for example, and one looks at deep vein thrombosis formation - the device might be useful if you're on a plane, but not a professional athlete who is incredibly active!

Yup. Four of the five studies look like pure marketing studies, not having been published or peer reviewed. When we look at DVTs I´d rather just do an ASA and stockings ^^

 

[Geyzer Soze]

This is going well!!

 

[Wirral Spurs]

This is going well!!

Indeed. I was just trying to help the team tbh.
The device has been properly tested and is being adopted by the NHS in another guise.

I think I'll let it drop!!!

 

[Marcus_spur]

Indeed. I was just trying to help the team tbh.
The device has been properly tested and is being adopted by the NHS in another guise.

I think I'll let it drop!!!

I can´t see that it has. The studies are too poor to be called proper tests, and though nmes is used in real HC, that is for a different kind of rehab that really can´t be compared. Besides, the NHS also funds homeopathy...

Don´t get me wrong, I want our team to get any advantage it can (within certain legal and ethical constraints), but that´s the kind of situation where we need to be extra careful so we don´t get fooled.

 

[TTID2002]

If anyone on here has contacts within our medical staff please get an update on yesterday's injuries.

 

[OmarsComing]

Do you honestly believe that Spurs do not know about this product, considering the modern thinking Harry Redknapp is using it at QPR?

 

[Chinaspur]

The one peer reviewed study showed it increased blood flow to the lower leg. No proper studies showing the definitive link to preventing DVT or helping recovery post exercise. However, it might be considered likely that increased blood flow would aid in both these situations. Which is why Man City physios probably thought it was worth it. The company is a very small startup and the technology only just on the market, so it is entirely possible that Spurs aren't aware.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

Indeed. I was just trying to help the team tbh.
The device has been properly tested and is being adopted by the NHS in another guise.

I think I'll let it drop!!!

Or you could contact the club rather than try to sell the idea to fans. What you have done so far won't help the team in any way.