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Nigel Spinal

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I've also read rumours of Alvaro Negredo being made available on loan. I think that's a perfect option as he's Prem proven and fits our play style imo. He'd provide a close like for like Kane backup while also letting us wait until summer to make the proper move.

Negredo has fallen out with the manager and isn't even making the matchday squads. We could probably get him on a permanent for £3-4m.

I think he'd be a perfect understudy for Kane. Similar style. EPL experience. And someone Kane could learn off too.

We don't want a player at their peak to challenge Kane. We'd be better with a reliable old hand
 

Gassin's finest

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Never wanted him, was surprised that many did. One decent season does not a £25m footballer make, nor the answer to our prayers.

We blew £25m on Soldado, a proven striker in Spain, and he did next to nothing. We spent near £30m on Lamela, and he's only just coming good 3 seasons on. Levy was/is right not to blow another £25m on a kid who has proven nothing yet.

I would be going for an experienced player. Kane is still young and learning. I think he'd benefit greatly from an older head next to him.
 

DogsOfWar

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At £15 million I'd have taken him as he offers something different but I don't think his all round game justifies numbers above that.

I think the West Brom chairman has shot himself in the foot with his stance over Saido.
Come January I have no doubt we will be back in for him but it depends on whether Peace is willing to lose face at being Levy'd or whether he feels the need to replace a negative influence on the club is more important.

I would suspect Pulis, and the fans, would rather have the funds and the player gone so wouldn't be surprised by it.
 

cliff jones

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A few issues in here.

Do we need someone? Obviously. The coach said so publicly.

Did we want bera? Yes, the coach said we loved him and only him.

Did levy back the coach? In his own special way, yeah, but failed. Circumstances irrelevant. Failed.

Ings and martial if itk was to be believed were earlier misses, and once again good choice imo.

But no one knows what wouldchave happened, ings cruciate? Bera 10 goals or no goals? No point speculating really.

Theres money there but whether its bera or someone else with a 4231 cf striker skill seti dont care, as long as the chairman backs the coach with a player the coach actually wants on 1 january, not a month later.

Cue rainbows galore, we all know it sadly doesnt work like this.
 

Sweech

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Negredo has fallen out with the manager and isn't even making the matchday squads. We could probably get him on a permanent for £3-4m.

I think he'd be a perfect understudy for Kane. Similar style. EPL experience. And someone Kane could learn off too.

We don't want a player at their peak to challenge Kane. We'd be better with a reliable old hand
Only worry with Negredo is wages. He was probably on a huge wage at City and likely still similar at Valencia and I have no idea what type of cut he'd be willing to take.

I'd go for loan with a purchase option and if Valencia insist on a rigid option I'd say obligatory purchase of we make CL.
 

spids

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Maybe so but they were playing a completely different style to us, whipping in crosses constantly, long balls over the top etc we don't do any of that so why would we assume he would look good for us?

Maybe we were watching different games.... They repeatedly played it up to him and, under severe pressure from our CBs, he held it up and brought their AMs into play. He was a handful, strong and powerful, fast enough to offer a threat behind as well as coming to feet with the technical ability to hold up the ball and bring people into the game in the last third. I'd rather have those attributes than play N'Jie up top or spend £25M on Berahino.
 

spids

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Negredo has fallen out with the manager and isn't even making the matchday squads. We could probably get him on a permanent for £3-4m.

I think he'd be a perfect understudy for Kane. Similar style. EPL experience. And someone Kane could learn off too.

We don't want a player at their peak to challenge Kane. We'd be better with a reliable old hand

Only problem is he left City as he was not happy with a lack of starts. Not sure he'd come to a team outside of CL to be a bench warner.
 

spursfan77

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If we don't get another striker of some form in January we will be in serious trouble for the rest of the season. Kane is going to be knackered after starting those 8 games in December before the window opens. Plus then the majority of January as you just know we won't buy a striker at the start of the window.

Berahino is too expensive but we need someone in. No idea who though but just someone to lighten the load on Kane is a must.
 

jurgen

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The thing I still like about Berahino is that he wouldn't just be a pure backup to Kane, he could play in the three behind and if you had him and Son there that is a really direct counter-attacking option to have. We definitely need someone to back up for Kane, but I wonder if we'll get the best use for the money out of buying a big fella to sit on the bench - especially an old expensive one like Negredo. Having said that, we've not had the option to see that in practice, and we did play Kane behind Soldado on occasion so maybe it could work that way as well should we look to change it up with two bigger guys up top sometimes.
 

DiamondLites

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I'd take a punt on Kramaric at Leicester, he's in the wilderness there and I think he'd slot in very well as a back up for Kane
 

Teddy Klinsmann

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There's a few strikers around Europe at the moment that are in brilliant form that we could get for a lot less than the £25 that WBA wanted for him.

Spot on. Hopefully Mitchell and co can unearth a young gem from Europe to provide back up over the remainder of the season. Plenty of scouting being done in Belgium according to media reports.
 

Sir Henry

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These are very different answers as were on a good run of form. All of these answers would change again if we loose a couple of games.

I wanted him before the good run of form and there's absolutely no reason to change that now for me. He will only get cheaper now.
 

coldasice199

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On current form, 25m seems excessive. A good striker, but no where near the finished article yet and consistency is a problem. I'd expect him for between 15-18m. Anything more and he is being overpriced. We do need another striker though
 

0-Tibsy-0

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I always feel like it will be a an unpopular opinion...

But if we want an expereinced back up striker that is familiar with the league, is willing to put a shift in, can offer hold up qualities and won't hold us to a ransom in regards wages, then Steven Fletcher. I think he could play in Europe and could come in when Harry needs a rest and be functional.

It's not exciting and it wouldnt take us to the next level, but it would work.
 

Nigel Spinal

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Only worry with Negredo is wages. He was probably on a huge wage at City and likely still similar at Valencia and I have no idea what type of cut he'd be willing to take.

I'd go for loan with a purchase option and if Valencia insist on a rigid option I'd say obligatory purchase of we make CL.

He's only on £75,000 apparently.
 

Nigel Spinal

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The thing I still like about Berahino is that he wouldn't just be a pure backup to Kane, he could play in the three behind and if you had him and Son there that is a really direct counter-attacking option to have. We definitely need someone to back up for Kane, but I wonder if we'll get the best use for the money out of buying a big fella to sit on the bench - especially an old expensive one like Negredo. Having said that, we've not had the option to see that in practice, and we did play Kane behind Soldado on occasion so maybe it could work that way as well should we look to change it up with two bigger guys up top sometimes.

The problem with Berahino is that he can only play in the supporting roles. He's not good in the lone role.

We could get him in as a specialist wide player, but would need to clear out 3 of Townsend, Dembele, Chadli and Lamela to make room for him; and then buy a CF
 

JonnySpurs

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25 million was always a lot for Berahino but equally it's really the fact that he's young and english that gives him that kind of price tag.

Let's also be clear here, just cos he's not scoring week in and week out for the Baggies doesn't suddenly mean he's become bang average overnight. Rondon was their big summer signing and arguably suits that lone front man role more in their team.

Saido gets chucked in on both flanks and up front for West Brom because he has the ability to do it but West Brom aren't exactly free scoring and have been more well known for keeping clean sheets this season.

We have no idea how different Berahino would be for us than he is for West Brom but if we still want to try and sign him in January or next summer then i'm all for it. That said, I think there are a lot of top strikers around europe so I would imagine our list of targets has increased now. Be interesting to see who we end up with.

I'm personally gutted that Callum Wilson got injured, I think he could've been a smart signing.
 

Agbar

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I thought one of the reasons Negredo left City was that he and his family struggled to settle in England. But maybe he would come back now if it's London.
 

Ribble

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Saido gets chucked in on both flanks and up front for West Brom because he has the ability to do it but West Brom aren't exactly free scoring and have been more well known for keeping clean sheets this season.

This is an understatement, They have been, to paraphrase a West Brom fan, "F-ing shit" all season.

Much like a lot of good players that came and went at Stoke, Pulis getting his way seemingly equates to creatively minded players getting dumped on.
 
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