Archibald:Soldado needs better, earlier service to live up to £26m fee

[mawspurs]

Steve Archibald took to Twitter to reveal he felt Spanish striker's team-mates treated passing to him as 'their last option' in League Cup win over Nottingham Forest

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[Lucky22]

Soldado is a difficult one. With the system we play, we seem to look to the front man to provide as much as a link to bring the attacking three behind him into play as we do for them to get into the box and score. From what I've seen, Soldado can run the channels for us, but then we also need him in the box and he can't be in two places at once. Our striker role is certainly better suited to Ade and Kane but I genuinely believe that Soldado can do good things for us - he just needs better support and a bit more confidence.

 

[scottlag10]

Perhaps if Soldado put in as much effort as Steve Archibald did as a player (remember he didn't have a great goal scoring start but his work ethic immediately made him a fans favourite) the fans would have more patience with him

 

[Acid]

Edit: wrong pot. Silly phone.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Perhaps if Soldado put in as much effort as Steve Archibald did as a player (remember he didn't have a great goal scoring start but his work ethic immediately made him a fans favourite) the fans would have more patience with him

Archibald never played in Gt Britain in a 4-2-3-1 system.

Perhaps if you put a little thought into your posts instead of just trying to compare two different era's of football played under totally different circumstances and systems then you would be taken more seriously.

Did you not see that we scored three goals after changing to a 4-4-2 on Wednesday? A system that gives the main striker more support, and one that Archibald only new until going to Barcelona (who predominantly played that system anyway).

He actually scored fifty eight goals in one hundred and thirty one appearances, his predominant partner at that time Garth Crooks netted forty eight in one hundred and twenty five games and fans favorite Lineker sixty seven goals in in one hundred and five games (at Spurs five years later). So Archibald fared roughly the same amount of goals per game as Crooks, through which period won them two FA. Cups, one UEFA Cup and a shared Charity Shield. This you could argue was our most successful period outside of the Nicholson one.

Isn't this a more balanced view of just how difficult the game has become and that Ade, Soldado and Kane are all struggling with the 4-2-3-1 system?

 

[Sweetsman]

When Mason scored, the ball came out and Soldado smacked it goalward, only for it to hit the corner of the goal. That just about summed up his woes, but thankfully redemption was at hand with Hotshot Townsend's wayward missile. You never know, our Andros might think about the concept of passing from now on.

 

[CrazyHeart]

When Mason scored, the ball came out and Soldado smacked it goalward, only for it to hit the corner of the goal. That just about summed up his woes, but thankfully redemption was at hand with Hotshot Townsend's wayward missile. You never know, our Andros might think about the concept of passing from now on.

I don't think Andros' contribution to Soldado's goal was an assist... looked more like a shot that went fortunately awry.

 

[SlunkSoma]

Soldado doesn't get any service. He isn't overly profligate, he has just got into the vicious circle of snatching at shots as his confidence is low and he isn't getting many clear cut opportunities.

I think he'd get a lot of space against the goons if he started, although that's probably too bold a move.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

He's right and it's not just Soldado who is starved I could probably say the same for Adebayor, I would say the problem lies not in our creative players/strikers but in our central midfielders obsession with sideways passing. We need someone who is going to play the ball earlier, quicker and at times more direct.

A playmaker in central midfield, I remember Huddlestone doing this role for us (at times) and we don't have someone like that sadly. Someone who can switch the play or play the ball in behind.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

We cannot play the same way as Liverpool did last year, which is how we are set up. We don't have the players with the same skill set or mentality as Suarez (in particular), Sturridge and Sterling.

IMO we need to play two up top, "ancient" as it seems.

 

[beuller]

I watch motd these days and really appreciate hull. Huddlestone is so easy on the eye in their midfield. Switches play effortlessly, plays direct when needed.

Certainly more exciting than our sideways sideways backwards midfield ATM.

 

[Edgarsglasses]

Altogether Now..We'll take more care of you Archibald Archibald

 

[Barry Mead]

Soldado needs to be played ahead of Lamela and Eriksen and with a quality central playmaker who can play accurate well weighted balls over or through for him to run onto or get the balls early to the other attackers to interchange passes
It seems pointless playing Soldado with two wingers that tend to hit the ball in the box rather than look to find the player. Play to his strengths he'll score goals, but having a winger like Townsend who never looks up to see and play a pass but instead tends to fire off shots from all angles and distances, invariably high or wide doesn't help any of attackers least of all Soldado even if his quick reactions steering yet another wide shot from Andros into the net gave him a goal the other night

 

[mawspurs]

I'd make all of our 'creative' players sit down and watch videos of Soldado scoring goal after goal for his previous club over and over until it sinks in to their heads the kind of service that he needs.

 

[slartibartfast]

I'd make all of our 'creative' players sit down and watch videos of Soldado scoring goal after goal for his previous club over and over until it sinks in to their heads the kind of service that he needs.

Totally agree but to me if you spend 26m on a goal machine isnt that bloody obvious?
You play to his needs not try and bend him to suit yours. If your gonna do that then your pissing 26m down the toilet.
Oh... wait.

 

[scottlag10]

Archibald never played in Gt Britain in a 4-2-3-1 system.

Perhaps if you put a little thought into your posts instead of just trying to compare two different era's of football played under totally different circumstances and systems then you would be taken more seriously.

Did you not see that we scored three goals after changing to a 4-4-2 on Wednesday? A system that gives the main striker more support, and one that Archibald only new until going to Barcelona (who predominantly played that system anyway).

He actually scored fifty eight goals in one hundred and thirty one appearances, his predominant partner at that time Garth Crooks netted forty eight in one hundred and twenty five games and fans favorite Lineker sixty seven goals in in one hundred and five games (at Spurs five years later). So Archibald fared roughly the same amount of goals per game as Crooks, through which period won them two FA. Cups, one UEFA Cup and a shared Charity Shield. This you could argue was our most successful period outside of the Nicholson one.

Isn't this a more balanced view of just how difficult the game has become and that Ade, Soldado and Kane are all struggling with the 4-2-3-1 system?

I was clearly comparing work ethic between two players

 

[lennonslaces]

Our system seems to be the striker is to set up the midfield and not the other way around. The Soldiers touch is sublime and we really should be playing to his strenghts. Why we arn't doing this amazes me as we are shot and chances shy and the players don't seem comfortable with it. The players dictate the system not the other way round. We definately should be playing 2 strikers at home to the likes of WBA. Hopefully the lads will step up tomorrow. They owe us a performance that's for sure

 

[Sweetsman]

I don't think Andros' contribution to Soldado's goal was an assist... looked more like a shot that went fortunately awry.

Um, that's what I said

 

[CrazyHeart]

Um, that's what I said

Sorry bud... honest oversight!

 

[Sweetsman]

Sorry bud... honest oversight!

That's OK, you're probably having pre-match anxiety ahead of the NLD. I'm trying to beat down any hope that rears its head, but it's bloody hard. I've been told that Adebayor is very keen, the expression used was that "he's bleeding Spurs". The worry is that it will mean another red card. Frankly, I just want a confident, energetic performance with movement; a win would be a bonus. I'll take a draw right now. The Goons at overconfident after their win against a Villa team struck down by illness.