Arsenal game - "protest" at reduced allocation

[TottenhamLegend]

Protest in the loosest sense.

Someone on another forum suggested that people who don't manage to get tickets (I will certainly be one of those) go down and sing outside the ground pre-game, and stay there singing for the first 15 / 20 minutes of the match. Then everyone would head into a pub and watch the rest of the match.

There's a real sense of injustice because of the reduced allocation, and a lot of people seem to be in agreeance that we shouldn't just bend over and take it.

Would anyone be up for this? Even if we could only get a couple of hundred people, that would make a point, not to mention it would be a good day out watching the game in the pub!

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I've applied for 4. Probably get 2

It's a decent idea in theory although a few hundred will achieve bugger all. You'd need a few thousand to cause a nuisance and headache for the scum & police and then the poor sods have got to be able to watch it somewhere which would probably mean missing at least the 1st half

 

[TottenhamLegend]

I've applied for 4. Probably get 2

It's a decent idea in theory although a few hundred will achieve bugger all. You'd need a few thousand to cause a nuisance and headache for the scum & police

Well then get sharing!

 

[punky]

We have said we will give them the same percentage in the return leg (if there is one), probably should just leave it at that.

No way should the host club be in charged of determining allocation, it should be done by 3rd parties like the FA and the police.

 

[D-Man]

Scum are always full of tricks like this.

 

[riggi]

Fucking well up for that, just like the 80's. Lets tear their manner up!!



o you mean peaceful protest...

 

[class of 62]

Protest in the loosest sense.

Someone on another forum suggested that people who don't manage to get tickets (I will certainly be one of those) go down and sing outside the ground pre-game, and stay there singing for the first 15 / 20 minutes of the match. Then everyone would head into a pub and watch the rest of the match.

There's a real sense of injustice because of the reduced allocation, and a lot of people seem to be in agreeance that we shouldn't just bend over and take it.

Would anyone be up for this? Even if we could only get a couple of hundred people, that would make a point, not to mention it would be a good day out watching the game in the pub!

plod wont stand for it simple.. peaceful or not.. (especially a couple of hundred spurs fans hanging round Holloway road!!) anyone going near a football ground is still an animal in there eyes period!.

 

[riggi]

plod wont stand for it simple.. peaceful or not.. (especially a couple of hundred spurs fans hanging round Holloway road!!) anyone going near a football ground is still an animal in there eyes period!.

Woof woof!

 

[riggi]

Seriously though, if this is gunna happen, ill try and get the day off work.

 

[absolute bobbins]

Why not just do this instead

Just on a bigger scale

 

[nferno]

Why not just do this instead

Just on a bigger scale

"I'll get you damn kids for this"

Yup, definitely something Wenger would say

 

[Kingstheman]

Protest... Protest... Protest...

 

[SpursManChris]

There's a real sense of injustice because of the reduced allocation, and a lot of people seem to be in agreeance that we shouldn't just bend over and take it.

It's for safety right? Safety must come first, surely you can understand that. What I can't understand though, is how this match is different from all other fixtures between us two when there has not been an allocation reduction? Maybe your good self or someone else can fill me in.

 

[TottenhamLegend]

It's for safety right? Safety must come first, surely you can understand that. What I can't understand though, is how this match is different from all other fixtures between us two when there has not been an allocation reduction? Maybe your good self or someone else can fill me in.

A few things to say here.

1. This game is different, because in the FA Cup you are meant to get a 15% allocation (9,000). In the league you only get about half of that. Arsenal have cut down our allocation from 15% to the normal 8%.

2. They say it's about safety. They actually cited the Chelsea fans' behaviour as a reason for not giving us a full allocation. They said there is an issue with the upper tier. Surely if we can't sit there for safety reasons, these seats should be unsold?

3. The main issue I have is that the Emirates is a brand new stadium. When it was built, the 15% away allocation for domestic cup games was already a rule. With this is mind, why has a stadium been built which is unable to facilitate this, and why have the FA approved it? Arsenal should not be allowed to sell the 3,000 extra tickets to home fans - they should remain as empty seats.

 

[SpursManChris]

With this is mind, why has a stadium been built which is unable to facilitate this, and why have the FA approved it?

Did they cite design flaws in their stadium? I'd be surprised if they confessed to that. And the Emirates' failure to faciliate the 15% allocation only applies to Tottenham and Chelsea right?

Arsenal should not be allowed to sell the 3,000 extra tickets to home fans - they should remain as empty seats.

Why?

 

[TottenhamLegend]

Did they cite design flaws in their stadium? I'd be surprised if they confessed to that. And the Emirates' failure to faciliate the 15% allocation only applies to Tottenham and Chelsea right?

Quote from the press release: "As the security issues cited related to safety in the Upper Tier" - this suggests it is a fault of the stadium, rather than directly an issue with there being lots of Spurs fans.

Why?

If a fault in the design of their stadium means they are unable to comply with competition rules, they should not be able to release these extra tickets to their own fans. Had the police specifically said our allocation was cut down due to safety concerns outside the stadium due to the large numbers, then I wouldn't be saying this. But this is the fault of Arsenal, and so it seems wrong they can sell their own fans extra tickets.

 

[SpursManChris]

Quote from the press release: "As the security issues cited related to safety in the Upper Tier" - this suggests it is a fault of the stadium, rather than directly an issue with there being lots of Spurs fans.

If a fault in the design of their stadium means they are unable to comply with competition rules, they should not be able to release these extra tickets to their own fans. Had the police specifically said our allocation was cut down due to safety concerns outside the stadium due to the large numbers, then I wouldn't be saying this. But this is the fault of Arsenal, and so it seems wrong they can sell their own fans extra tickets.

Haven't they had cup games at home before? If this has nothing to do with the fact that it's us playing, then this won't be the first time this has happened right? As for them selling tickets to their fans, I can't see a problem in that. Why leave the seats empty? What harm does it do to us?

 

[TottenhamLegend]

Haven't they had cup games at home before? If this has nothing to do with the fact that it's us playing, then this won't be the first time this has happened right?

They cited safety concerns which were uncovered in the game against Chelsea.

As for them selling tickets to their fans, I can't see a problem in that. Why leave the seats empty? What harm does it do to us?

It's a matter of principle. They shouldn't benefit through their failure to comply with competition rules.

It's like entering an U21 competition, but only having 8 players below the age of 21, so you're allowed to play 3 players who are over 21, rather than having to pull out.

Very vague example, but similar principle.

 

[MattyP]

What would this protest actually achieve?

 

[stevenurse]

Lets just out voice them in their own back yard with an even smaller %. Im fed up of seeing all these pictures of celebrating arse fans in that bowl. But then again, if you put 60,000 people with downs in a stadium there is going to be some hugging.