Arsenal vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[Dr Know]

You're so wrong.

.........and what makes you think you're right? Its all about views and opinions and that comes from what we see on the day. Today I watched Thudd and I thought get him off quick. I also thought King should have come off because he was not having a good game (and I measure King's performance on his past performances') even though he did make a couple of good tackles I still think he has to take some blame for 2 goals. Crouch himself is not the problem but the team just sees him as a bullseye and we played the long ball from kick off. It seems Harry can't change the mentality of the other players so maybe we need to keep Crouch as an impact sub (I don't rate him either)

 

[kernowspur]

.........and what makes you think you're right? Its all about views and opinions and that comes from what we see on the day. Today I watched Thudd and I thought get him off quick. I also thought King should have come off because he was not having a good game (and I measure King's performance on his past performances') even though he did make a couple of good tackles I still think he has to take some blame for 2 goals. Crouch himself is not the problem but the team just sees him as a bullseye and we played the long ball from kick off. It seems Harry can't change the mentality of the other players so maybe we need to keep Crouch as an impact sub (I don't rate him either)

:clap:

 

[alfiespurs]

As I type the results are going outr way ! We are STILL 4th ! Liverpool do have serious issues !

 

[haxman]

And we're somehow still 4th till at least tomorrow with all the shenanigans today.

8 red cards today - a Premier League record.

 

[walworthyid]

If your so clued up then maybe you should have read the whole comment where I said he was a shadow of his former self, I also said that when fit I would still have him in the side because he is still good, just not immense like he was before the injuries. I'm referring to the whole season as well not just today, he isn't as quick and commanding as he once was, it's sad but some people need to take of the rose tinted glasses.

Guess your too clueless to read between the lines eh? Sorry not everyone who watches football at the weekend can be as deep thinking and all knowing as you.

Okay mate:stupid:

Glad to see the clueless thing is working out for you!

 

[mike_l]

Okay mate:stupid:

Glad to see the clueless thing is working out for you!

WTF have I said that is clueless, seriously. I only saw the second half today, so I didn't make the comment on King because of anything from the Arsenal game.

He was an immense defender before some serious injuries and almost a year without really playing. He is now not the immense defender he once was IMO, is that so hard to accept?

What has been said about King isn't sensationalised or kneejerk, I even said that he would still be in our strongest side, so what got your knickers in a twist so much that anyone who criticised King is clueless?

If you are going to claim that King is as good as he ever was then your the clueless one IMO. If your not going to try and claim that then your going to have to concede I was right.

 

[Dr Know]

Guys......... we here bashing and crashing but L'pool just got done 3-1 by Fulham!!!

We're still 4th

 

[mike_l]

Guys we hear bashing and crashing but L'pool just got done 3-1 by Fulham!!!

We're still 4th

Maybe we should be more concerned with Fulham overtaking us than Liverpool, they are a right mess at the moment and their squad is way too shallow.

 

[walworthyid]

WTF have I said that is clueless, seriously. I only saw the second half today, so I didn't make the comment on King because of anything from the Arsenal game.

He was an immense defender before some serious injuries and almost a year without really playing. He is now not the immense defender he once was IMO, is that so hard to accept?

What has been said about King isn't sensationalised or kneejerk, I even said that he would still be in our strongest side, so what got your knickers in a twist so much that anyone who criticised King is clueless?

If you are going to claim that King is as good as he ever was then your the clueless one IMO. If your not going to try and claim that then your going to have to concede I was right.

Well I guess that can only leave us with the conclusion that yor right?

Okay mate, your right:clap:

Look, King has been consistently our best defender and will continue to be. He wasn't great today and has had some relatively poor games this season, but then he had poor games when he was 21? What does that mean? I can remember him playing in holding midfield against Argentina and Ariel Ortega tore him a new one! He made him look like he had the turning circle of the qe2! Seriously, wat does that mean? I've seen Baresi have poor games, Ferdinand, Mabbut, Adams etc

My knickers aren't in a twist mate, I just have a very low tollerance level for people who have nonsensical opinions!

 

[Nads]

Harry's face before the match said it all for me - he looked worried. Then I found out he picked a team set up to counter them, too much fucking respect for the top 4, pisses me off.

 

[Dr Know]

Maybe we should be more concerned with Fulham overtaking us than Liverpool, they are a right mess at the moment and their squad is way too shallow.

Yeah I hear what you're saying m8 but I'm more concerned with the fact that because we got a few players out we can't win a game!
I kept hearing strength in depth but it seems like the measurements are wrong. We seem quite shallow!

 

[nicdic]

Harry's face before the match said it all for me - he looked worried. Then I found out he picked a team set up to counter them, too much fucking respect for the top 4, pisses me off.

No team we'd have put out would have done much better. We had no way of creating, and although their goals all came from errors, we'd never have caused them problems.

 

[Winchy85]

Picture I took in The Immigrants today:

£230 thank you.

 

[haxman]

Picture I took in The Immigrants today:

£230 thank you.

I don't know whether to positive or negative rep you :lol:

 

[mike_l]

Well I guess that can only leave us with the conclusion that yor right?

Okay mate, your right:clap:

Look, King has been consistently our best defender and will continue to be. He wasn't great today and has had some relatively poor games this season, but then he had poor games when he was 21? What does that mean? I can remember him playing in holding midfield against Argentina and Ariel Ortega tore him a new one! He made him look like he had the turning circle of the qe2! Seriously, wat does that mean? I've seen Baresi have poor games, Ferdinand, Mabbut, Adams etc

My knickers aren't in a twist mate, I just have a very low tollerance level for people who have nonsensical opinions!

The thing is, I haven't said he is shit, he shouldn't be in the team or even gotten on his back. I still think he is one of our best 2 defenders, along with Woody but not sure which is best, and even stated so in my original comment. I just don't think he is as good as he used to be, the thing that made him so amazing was his level of consistency, yet this season he has had numerous below par showings as you say yourself.

So how is it so clueless and nonsensical to surmise that he is not the player he used to be following multiple long term injuries and an inability to train all week. Hell, it's not even a criticism really, the guy plays football for 90 minutes a week and a bit of a kick about on Fridays and as a result hasn't been able to keep up to his exemplary standards. My statement was more an indication of how good he was than him having become a poor player.

I'm not looking for an argument here, but I think calling me clueless and nonsensical based on that comment is a bit harsh.

 

[nicdic]

Yeah I hear what you're saying m8 but I'm more concerned with the fact that because we got a few players out we can't win a game!
I kept hearing strength in depth but it seems like the measurements are wrong. We seem quite shallow!

So we're measuring our replacements against a full strength Arsenal? Our back up and depth, is back up and depth for a reason. It's not as good as our first 11, but it's good for back up.

 

[mike_l]

Yeah I hear what you're saying m8 but I'm more concerned with the fact that because we got a few players out we can't win a game!
I kept hearing strength in depth but it seems like the measurements are wrong. We seem quite shallow!

It does seem that way at the moment but when everyone is fit we probably have too many players of a high quality. For the attacking in midfield we have Gio, Lennon, Modric, Kranjcar, Bentley, Bale to choose from but due to a freak spate of injuries we looked weak in that area today.

We are light in cm though, which must be solved in Jan as even with no injuries it means we can't shake things up much in that department when things are going tits up.

 

[walworthyid]

The thing is, I haven't said he is shit, he shouldn't be in the team or even gotten on his back. I still think he is one of our best 2 defenders, along with Woody but not sure which is best, and even stated so in my original comment. I just don't think he is as good as he used to be, the thing that made him so amazing was his level of consistency, yet this season he has had numerous below par showings as you say yourself.

So how is it so clueless and nonsensical to surmise that he is not the player he used to be following multiple long term injuries and an inability to train all week. Hell, it's not even a criticism really, the guy plays football for 90 minutes a week and a bit of a kick about on Fridays and as a result hasn't been able to keep up to his exemplary standards. My statement was more an indication of how good he was than him having become a poor player.

I'm not looking for an argument here, but I think calling me clueless and nonsensical based on that comment is a bit harsh.

Fairenough dude!No offence intended. Its a day of high emotions!

 

[mike_l]

So we're measuring our replacements against a full strength Arsenal? Our back up and depth, is back up and depth for a reason. It's not as good as our first 11, but it's good for back up.

I don't think that the big difference between us and them is in the quality of players but the quality of coaching. They get by with the likes of song and Diaby in midfield who have been trained to do their roles in the team perfectly, when it works it works a treat but at times they are shown up too.

That's not a dig at Redknapp, Wenger is an exceptional coach and if he had our squad it would be us challenging for the title not them I think.

 

[ziggy]

Yeah I hear what you're saying m8 but I'm more concerned with the fact that because we got a few players out we can't win a game!
I kept hearing strength in depth but it seems like the measurements are wrong. We seem quite shallow!

But it depends on which players we've got out, we could probably get away without Gomes, BAE, Charlie, Thudd, Jenas etc because we've got adequate replacements ( adequate I say btw) but Modders, Lennon and Defoe are a different kettle of fish because there are no adequate replacements, OK you can get away with one of them out, poss 2 but all 3 at the same time ??

No team we'd have put out would have done much better. We had no way of creating, and although their goals all came from errors, we'd never have caused them problems.

Exactly, with who we had to choose from we were always going to be up against it. To be fair I thought we really did OK until their 1st, the 2nd just did it for us because we had no-one who could change a game available.

That said we're still 4th atm and the season is still open, Defoe is back next week and we should beat Sunderland to get us back on track.