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NickHSpurs

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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes the only way to stamp out malicious tackles in football is by handing out lengthy suspensions.

Wenger has no qualms with full-blooded challenges in the game where a genuine attempt to win the ball in made.

However, the vastly-experienced French tactician believes The Football Association needs to clamp down on tackles where a player deliberately goes out to harm a fellow professional.

Wenger, speaking in the wake of Wednesday's clash between Wigan and West Ham where referee Stuart Attwell dished out two reds cards and seven yellows, wants bans of 10 games and upwards introducing.

The 59-year-old is left shaking his head when players make poor tackles and then immediately deny any wrongdoing in a bid to worm their way out of going into the referee's notebook.

Accident

"An accident can happen when two people go for the ball but it is very rare," he told the Daily Mail. "What I see is that guys go into the tackle to hurt the player. There is not sufficient punishment.

"They could create a special committee to analyse if three games is enough because, in some tackles, 10 is not enough.

"Maybe we need to be stronger with our own players but sometimes you see the players make horrendous tackles and then say to the referee, "What's wrong there?"

"You think, "My friend, touch your head because you have completely lost touch with reality". It is unbelievable but they know what they have done."

Meanwhile, Wenger has stirred his rivalry with nemesis Sir Alex Ferguson by claiming Manchester United get too much protection from referees.
However, Arsenal's long-serving tactician also thinks that sometimes Ferguson's are not protected enough and that Cristiano Ronaldo is often singled out for attention.

"With Manchester United I am a bit cautious because sometimes I feel they get too much protection and sometimes they don't get enough," he continued.

Arrogance is provocative

"Ronaldo is a specific example of that. Sometimes his arrogance is provocative, and his class as well.

"I don't want to create a debate but when a player is not protected it's not right. When there is a bad tackle you have to be punished and sent off.

"Ronaldo is an easy target for the referees. It is easy to give decisions against him because he is such a great player and he is so celebrated.
"When he is away from home every crowd boos him, so he has to handle that. But it is not helping him."

http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_5012702,00.html
 

Dougal

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How many players sent off in his time at the Scum now? How many trophies would he have won if Vieira had a few 10 match bans?
 

TheChosenOne

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I've posted a reply in the mail article, It hasn't appeared yet but I will keep your guys informed.

Something along the lines of "The selectively myopic Alsation Wenger seems to have forgotten the 70+ red cards received during his tenure as Arsenal manager"

I should have also mentioned his bitching about fixture congestion. Wanker.


I got my bit posted by the Mail..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-bad-boys-control-10-game-bans.html#comments

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The selectively myopic Alsatian Wenger has obviously forgotten the 70+ red cards his players have received during his tenure as manager of Arsenal.
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Dougal

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And a bit about Wenger talking about arrogance. Shame the Emirates isn't a glass house, it'd be coming down about now.
 

nightgoat

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"It concerns me when I see someone jumping in like a mad guy as we have some players who weigh 90 kilos and can run the 100 metres in 11 seconds. If they jump in they completely destroy an opponent."

Funny that, coming from a guy who's assembled a team packed full of athletic Africans... How many times have we seen Eboue throw various parts of his anatomy at opponents with no hope of winning the ball?
 

Phantom

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You mean like this arsene? :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rArpZ-wvtTU

Im far more concerned with diving than hard tackles. I do not think its a huge problem in ther PL. But sneaky kicks, elbows and headbutts are, with the scum being one of the worst for it. Have seen plenty of this disgraceful behaviour from them this season and in the past.
 

TheChosenOne

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I got my bit posted by the Mail..

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The selectively myopic Alsatian Wenger has obviously forgotten the 70+ red cards his players have received during his tenure as manager of Arsenal.
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Phantom

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I got my bit posted by the Mail..

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The selectively myopic Alsatian Wenger has obviously forgotten the 70+ red cards his players have received during his tenure as manager of Arsenal.
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riggi

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I just have to lol at this guy now, owell he'll be gone soon enough. Aurevoir :adios:
 

al_pacino

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You're famous!!!!!!!

I'm all for longer bans fro terrrible tackles but its hard to set the levels. Kevin Nolan has put Anichebe out for the season so three games looks pathetic, but so would 10 games compared to the time Anichebe is out.

On Wenger, as has been stated he does tend to see what he likes. Litterally only a couple of weeks after he was calling for Matin Taylor to be banned for causing Eduardos injury he was ignoring a much more malicios tackle by Diaby against Bolton, noone was seriously injured but thats not really the point.
 

Bill_Oddie

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I think he's half right (which also makes him half wrong).

I don't really see why punishments should be decided before the incident. Every single sending off could easily and relatively quickly (say the Monday after the weekend's footy) by a panel of referees who performed that weekend sitting down and reviewing the incidents from each angle and only then decide on whether a ban is deserved and then how long it would be for.

It would help reduce/minimise the impact of errors and reduce pressure on the referee on the pitch as all he would be doing was punishing the team at that time. While the situation for mistakes would remain the same (ie, bans would be revoked), this would happen more often as the panel would not be undermining the refs authority as much.

Plus, for really nasty tackles, they would have much wider guidelines, arguably including banning the individual for the length of time that he has injured the opponent for. In the case of that vicious prick Chris Morgan after he elbowed Iain Hume, it would have been the least he deserved.
 

Marty

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Excellent post Mr. Oddie. I've never thought about that before but it does seem like a very good idea.
 

Dougal

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Re:Keeping a player suspended until his 'victim' has recovered.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It. Now, if for example Fabregas went in hard on, oh I don't know, Bentley. Bentley is stretchered off, Fabregas sent off. Two weeks later Bentley is ready to play again. Would you not be tempted not to let anyone know therefore keeping out a key Gooner for as long as you wish? :)
 

Marty

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Re:Keeping a player suspended until his 'victim' has recovered.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It. Now, if for example Fabregas went in hard on, oh I don't know, Bentley. Bentley is stretchered off, Fabregas sent off. Two weeks later Bentley is ready to play again. Would you not be tempted not to let anyone know therefore keeping out a key Gooner for as long as you wish? :)
Of course the FA would have to send out their own physio people to check up on the injured player to make sure there is no abuse of the rule.
 
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