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Article: English dominance in the CL

donny1013

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The draw could scarcely have been tougher. Chelsea and Arsenal were both group runners-up, so either could have landed a tie against Barcelona. But the Premier League has taken close to the best the rest of Europe has to offer and, with varying degrees of ease, dispatched all-comers at this stage for the second season in a row.

All are beatable. Arsenal escaped a penalty shout at the end of the first half that would have forced them to commit to the hunt for a goal. In the end they needed to keep their nerve from 12 yards at the end of 120 minutes and had Mirko Vucinic not been caught bluffing so soon in the shoot-out then the pressure would have mounted rapidly after Eduardo's opening error.

Sir Alex Ferguson was understandably unhappy at his side's gifting Inter a sustained spell of control at Old Trafford, while Jose Mourinho was left to rue how far short of the best player in the world Zlatan Ibrahimovic looked in front of goal.

Chelsea, like Arsenal, were pegged back to 1-1 on aggregate early in their second leg and needed Didier Drogba to come up with their second equaliser on the night to close out their tie against Juventus.

Liverpool achieved the margin of victory their domination deserved against Real Madrid, but - not for the first time - had a helping hand from the officials. Had Iker Casillas not been beaten twice as a result in the first half then Real might not have been there for the taking when Steven Gerrard scored his sumptuous second goal.

Barcelona and Bayern were notably impressive and either of these past winners this decade could land a second success in Rome in May. Villarreal were a penalty away from extra time in the 2006 semi-finals and we all remember Porto two years earlier.

Still, when the draw is made a week on Friday, most on the continent, well beyond the participating clubs hoping for an easier draw and Anglophobes, will be hoping there is at least one all-Premier League pairing.

The commercial success of the Champions League depends in part on it being a pan-European event: if only audiences in a couple of countries have a serious investment in the semi-finals, as has been the case two seasons in a row, then the return to sponsors will diminish there, and in time there may be a ripple effect back to earlier rounds.

Michel Platini has damaged his credibility by making up statistics to bolster some of his arguments. Last autumn he said that "hardly any English players are in the final stages of the Champions League", when there were 10 starters in Moscow and more in the semi-finals, a stronger representation than from any other country. At the same time he does have a responsibility to the game across the continent and needs UEFA's premier competition to maintain its attractiveness to sponsors and audiences in straitened times.

There has been no domination approaching this in the history of the Champions League or European Cup; you cannot compare the run of wins when countries had usually one and at most two entrants. Last season's feat, of Premier League clubs only being eliminated by Premier League clubs when there were four of them, was extraordinary.

Platini's proposed solutions to Premier League domination are flawed. But just because some of the rhetoric on the subject is misleading and the proposed answers are impractical, that doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

Still, if there are matches as dramatic or enjoyable as this week's, at least it's not all bad...


It is something i am getting bored of. The 'Sky 4' now seemingly becoming the 'CL 4'. I hope at least two of them (not Man Utd) get knocked out in the quarter finals and i also hope for the sake of football that Liverpool don't get drawn against Chelski again as that is possibly the worst match in football
 

barry

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The Scum will get Villareal or Porto. They always get the easiest draw
 

sunnydelight786

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Utd v Barca would be the dream final for me. Lets hope UEFA use the hot and cold balls to keep them apart next Friday eh.....

p.s. It would be an absolute tragedy to football if the bin dipping twats won the CL. Viva sexy football over there "shit on a stick". Before anyone starts on about there performance against Madrid, the sight of one swallow dont make it summer. For the last 4 years they have more often than not bored the life out of the teams they have faced.
 

mil1lion

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Chelsea are serious contenders now for me, along with Barca and Utd. They've looked more focused with Hiddink in charge, and the return of Essien will be a massive boost. So it will be 1 of those 3 who win i reckon.

I'd like Barca to get Arsenal in the next round.
 

riversmonkey

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It seems Tight disciplined defence + Power and Pace = English based clubs success.

Despite Barca playing lush Football they are likely to get outmuscled and out thought (Benitez, Wenger, Fergie and Hiddink are tactical masters in comparison to Pep)against any of the Big Four.
 

Kendall

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deselina hates this, she is best mates with Blatter and Platini
 

Kendall

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Utd v Barca would be the dream final for me. Lets hope UEFA use the hot and cold balls to keep them apart next Friday eh.....

p.s. It would be an absolute tragedy to football if the bin dipping twats won the CL. Viva sexy football over there "shit on a stick". Before anyone starts on about there performance against Madrid, the sight of one swallow dont make it summer. For the last 4 years they have more often than not bored the life out of the teams they have faced.

Disagree. Liverpool may not be Barcelona or United but they're far more entertaining than any of the Italian representatives this year and far more entertaining than Madrid.
 

worcestersauce

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Chelsea are serious contenders now for me, along with Barca and Utd. They've looked more focused with Hiddink in charge, and the return of Essien will be a massive boost. So it will be 1 of those 3 who win i reckon.

I'd like Barca to get Arsenal in the next round.

They are now that Essien is back spot on mil1ion.

I have to say that I never watch the champions league at all, I have no interest in it whatsoever now.

I used to watch the European games to see a wide variety of clubs from all over Europe competing on by and large and even footing but I really can't be arsed to watch teams I can see every week on MOTD.

Platini is right but Uefa has only itself to blame, it handed over the competition to the original G14 clubs and like the English Premier League whored itself to the likes of Sky introduced the CL format and fucked it up.
How long before someone puts forward the idea that the winner of the final isn't the real winner until they win a second game in Kuala fecking lumpa?
 

Rackybear

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Chelsea vs United
Arsenal vs Pool

Itll be fixed and Uefa will want to get rid of as many english teams as early as possible.

Ofcourse you have to keep the likelyness of a Man Utd - Liverpool final available to bring in the $$$$.
 

Phantom

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I just find it funny that english teams are so dominant. As long as the scum don't actually win it.

There should not be a rule change to engineer a reduction in chances of PL domination.
 

donny1013

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I think the 4 places that England, Spain and Italy have, has taken the shine off the CL and completely undermined the UEFA Cup. The fact that teams that fail by finishing 3rd in a group in the CL get put into the UEFA is a joke. I personally think it should be the top 3 in a country with 2nd and 3rd having to qualify, that way the new Europa League would get a better standard of team.
 

mil1lion

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I would like it to be the top 2 qualify automatically, and the domestic Cup winners make the CL qualifiers (if they lose then they go into the UEFA Cup qualifiers.) That way it would encourage teams to field stronger teams in the domestic Cup games, knowing that they could get a chance at qualifying for the Champions League. And it could make for some interesting additions to the Champions League too. Chances are, it will still involve some of the biggest Clubs in England getting in, but if that Club finishes 1st or 2nd in the League, it would then go to 3rd (for the FA Cup) and 4th (for the Carling Cup.) Besides, its called the 'Champions' League, and imo the Cup winners are more like Champions than 3rd and 4th placed teams.
 

worcestersauce

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It should only be the champions and it should be knock out only end of!:evil:
 

speccy_spur

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It should only be the champions and it should be knock out only end of!:evil:
:clap: Completely agree. Was a very exciting competition when I was a kid. Winning the trophy itself was the most important thing. Now it's all about how much money you can accumulate during the countless matches before being knocked out.
European Cup >> Champions League
 

deselina

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english clubs are so successful because they receive the most money from uefa competitions. when an epl club that goes out in the first round receive more money from the champions league than a club like psv who had reached the semi's, you know something is very wrong.
 
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