AVB felt let down wanted to leave !! long read but worth it...

[Imnotacticalgenius]

The failure to sign Moutinho was an absolute disgrace on the part of Levy.

Bringing in a new coach with the intention of pushing on from the very good job Harry was doing and pushing us to the 'next level' was admirable and ballsy, and the sale of Modric was ultimately unavoidable, but to not sign the one man AVB wanted, and who was available and willing to join for a smaller fee than we obtained for Modric, was a masterclass in undermining your new manager before his first transfer window was even shut.

Agree, AVB absolutely needed Moutinho to be at Spurs. A World Class player that believes in AVB philosophy. With Moutinho in the team, it would be easier as Moutinho would then be able to "influence" the team, that AVB can bring success; Having first hand experience of AVB success/"greatness" himself. I believe his asking for Hulk is within the same line. So to me, Moutinho would help AVB tremendously at Spurs in many folds.....mainly as a World Class player and Influential figure to "impart" AVB's philosophy. Its a pity that Spurs missed on Moutinho.

 

[jambreck]

The failure to sign Moutinho was an absolute disgrace on the part of Levy.

Bringing in a new coach with the intention of pushing on from the very good job Harry was doing and pushing us to the 'next level' was admirable and ballsy, and the sale of Modric was ultimately unavoidable, but to not sign the one man AVB wanted, and who was available and willing to join for a smaller fee than we obtained for Modric, was a masterclass in undermining your new manager before his first transfer window was even shut.

Hang on.......didn't we as good as have the Moutinho signing agreed before either Porto or some third party ownership issues scuppered the deal at the last minute? It's not as if Levy didn't try.

And let's not pretend that £30 million wasn't / isn't an enormous amount of money for a club like Spurs and for an unproven (in the PL or any other big league) player like Moutinho. People moaning that AVB wasn't supported because Levy haggled over not paying more than £30m must think that we are dealing in Monopoly money.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Hang on.......didn't we as good as have the Moutinho signing agreed before either Porto or some third party ownership issues scuppered the deal at the last minute? It's not as if Levy didn't try.

And let's not pretend that £30 million wasn't / isn't an enormous amount of money for a club like Spurs and for an unproven (in the PL or any other big league) player like Moutinho. People moaning that AVB wasn't supported because Levy haggled over not paying more than £30m must think that we are dealing in Monopoly money.

It wasn't £30m...and it was substantially lower than the fee we received for Modric.

But you're right, it's a lot of money, and therefore obviously a deal that shouldn't have been left until deadline hour to iron out bugs or negotiate on a million or two. It was a crucial transfer that fucked AVB over on word go.

 

[Bergsy]

However, the biggest irony is that here is a young coach who is firmly committed to attacking, exciting football – and wants to entertain

Stopped reading here.

 

[melih69]

Stopped reading here.

agreed. since he left porto there has been absolutely NO evidence of that at both chelsea, and here.

 

[jambreck]

It wasn't £30m...and it was substantially lower than the fee we received for Modric.

But you're right, it's a lot of money, and therefore obviously a deal that shouldn't have been left until deadline hour to iron out bugs or negotiate on a million or two. It was a crucial transfer that fucked AVB over on word go.

You're right.....it was €30m. Or £26m. Still an an enormous amount of money for a club like Spurs and an unproven player like Moutinho.

As to leaving the deal to deadline day, you seem to be forgetting that there were four parties to the deal. Moutinho himself, Porto, Spurs and third party owners. The goalposts were forever being moved. So the chances are that there simply was no deal to be done until deadline day. And maybe not even then, since the goalposts were moved yet again.

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

id love a job at Spurs fuck it up and still walk away with 5 million

 

[myhartlane]

id love a job at Spurs fuck it up and still walk away with 5 million

Frankly, I'd rather do that at Woolwich or Chelscum. Why would I want to mug my own club?

 

[SlunkSoma]

This is all leaving me feel very deflated I have to say. If this is to be believed it seems the relationship went sour straight away. How is that possible?

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

Frankly, I'd rather do that at Woolwich or Chelscum. Why would I want to mug my own club?

sorry meant if you fuck it up you still get a large chunk of cash

 

[Blackcanary]

This is all leaving me feel very deflated I have to say. If this is to be believed it seems the relationship went sour straight away. How is that possible?

It makes me wonder what the heck happened this summer when PSG were sniffing around AVB: Why did he stay? Why did Levy want him to stay? What did he promise to make him stay?

 

[spurs-r-us]

Excellent article, thanks for posting

As Burkinshaw said " There used to be a football club over there"

What do we have now, I really have no idea

I blame the concept of 'top 4'. We don't base our aims around getting good results with good football - it's all about making 'top 4' so we can keep making 'top 4' and maybe one day be at the top of that 'top 4'. When you aim for 4th not 1st, you are not a top club.

 

[barry]

I felt let down andre. Fair enough you didn't get everything you wanted but most Managers don't. That doesn't excuse the dour football you served up on a weekly basis, or the embarassing losses, which any half competent manager would of never let happen. You made me embarrassed to be a spurs fan for the first time in my life. Ahead of your time my arse. Now cry me a River with you're 5 million pounds.

 

[riggi]

Richard Keys‏@richardajkeys
Tim Sherwood told us today Spurs were tired - over trained -and unhappy with AVB. Doesn't look like that to me.
11:17 AM - 29 Sep 12
https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/252109876510208001

That tweet was from last year. There's lot more behind the scenes backstabbing that got rid of AVB.

Not nice considering the pictures on Lewis's boat.

 

[Kendall]

I felt let down andre. Fair enough you didn't get everything you wanted but most Managers don't. That doesn't excuse the dour football you served up on a weekly basis, or the embarassing losses, which any half competent manager would of never let happen. You made me embarrasses to be a spurs fan for the first time in my life. Ahead of your time my arse. Now cry me a River with you're 5 million pounds.

Absolutely.

Felt let down, wanted to leave, managed us to a 6-0 and a 5-0 within a couple of weeks of each other but still waited around for his 4m compo.

Waahhh I wanted Messi, I can't possibly work with Eriksen or Lamela, it's not as if they're two of the most highly regarded youngsters in the game.

 

[SlunkSoma]

It makes me wonder what the heck happened this summer when PSG were sniffing around AVB: Why did he stay? Why did Levy want him to stay? What did he promise to make him stay?

That is the part of the article that doesn't hang together. There is no reason as to why he didn't leave.

 

[Gassin's finest]

It's a very well written piece, and makes a lovely and convincing story. Doubtless there will be some validity to it and AVB may well have been unhappy with not getting his way. We all know ENIC run the club as an investment, and while that has definitely put us back near the top in recent years, it does repeatedly bite them in the ass after a while. Usually once they have had some success and suddenly get all impatient and unrealistic.

History repeats, lessons are never learned... it continues to amaze me how short sighted and impatiently the majority of football clubs are still run.

 

[Kendall]

It's a very well written piece, and makes a lovely and convincing story. Doubtless there will be some validity to it and AVB may well have been unhappy with not getting his way. We all know ENIC run the club as an investment, and while that has definitely put us back near the top in recent years, it does repeatedly bite them in the ass after a while. Usually once they have had some success and suddenly get all impatient and unrealistic.

History repeats, lessons are never learned... it continues to amaze me how short sighted and impatiently the majority of football clubs are still run.

I'm really not sure this is 100% the case. Lewis and Levy are seasoned investors with a track record. Levy focusing on sports but not getting involved with chairmanship and Lewis as a contrarian investor (distressed companies) who doesn't get involved with day to day management.

Levy's job at Tottenham is far too involved to be solely about running it as an investment. If it was, ENIC would've just had a silent stake and let a chief exec run the club. It's more than that, much more. ENIC could've invested in something else and made more money over the past few years. They could've reinvested 80m of the player sales and given themselves a 20m dividend. They didn't because it's about more than that. levy was doing transfer business for Tottenham whilst his wife was being treated with cancer. Why? because it's more than an investment.

Investments are easy when you have the money Levy and Lewis have. There would be no reason for Levy to invest the TIME he does in running Tottenham if it was solely an investment to him.

 

[eddiebailey]

That is the part of the article that doesn't hang together. There is no reason as to why he didn't leave.

PSG asked permission to talk to him; that is not the same as making an offer.

 

[eddiebailey]

The interesting thing is that this article comes from the AVB camp and he still emerges as a spoilt brat...