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Barca make formal £40M bid for Cesc Fabregas

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just in time for hte deal to go through on friday aswell :grin:
 

mil1lion

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I think it will end up closer to £50m-£55m, but I do think it will happen. I also think Arsenal will miss him, although they will sign 2 or 3 quality players with the money. I just don't think they'll sign the right players.
 

Mchillio

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oh dear its all going wrong for the scummers!! How long before Van Persie buggers off
 

Darrkespur

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£40M + Yaya Toure, surely. If Ronaldo is £80M, Fabregas is worth more than 40.
 

dvdhopeful

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All depends on how the money is used, if its used well then they could well end up with a stronger team without him. £30 for Berbatov made us a better side. Wenger isn't the transfer genius the Scum remind us he is though, he's made his fair share of bloopers, so its not a guarantee the money will be used correctly.

Interesting situation though.
 

nferno

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All depends on how the money is used, if its used well then they could well end up with a stronger team without him. £30 for Berbatov made us a better side. Wenger isn't the transfer genius the Scum remind us he is though, he's made his fair share of bloopers, so its not a guarantee the money will be used correctly.

Interesting situation though.

the thing is, we never replaced berbatov :wink:
 

crazyteknohed

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£40M + Yaya Toure, surely. If Ronaldo is £80M, Fabregas is worth more than 40.

The big difference here is that Ronaldo was FIFA World Player of the Year and worth f*ckloads in terms of marketing.

Also, I doubt Barça are even remotely as desperate to sign Fábregas as Real were to sign Ronaldo (let's face it, they don't need him) and I can see them threatening to wait a year and get him at cut price.
 

Gassin's finest

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All depends on how the money is used, if its used well then they could well end up with a stronger team without him. £30 for Berbatov made us a better side. Wenger isn't the transfer genius the Scum remind us he is though, he's made his fair share of bloopers, so its not a guarantee the money will be used correctly.

Interesting situation though.

Did it?! Darren Bent and Roman Pavluchenko in that first season were shaft. We had to bring JD and RK back in to save us!

Wenger is astute however and won't spend recklessly. The annoying thing is he has Wilshire and Ramsay waiting in the wings.
 

$hoguN

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Fabregas leaving the Premier League is not good for English football in general, but I have to admit if he goes I'll be happy to see Arsenal weakened. I also think Fabregas going will make the like of Arshavin and Van Persie push for moves too.
 

crazyteknohed

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Fabregas leaving the Premier League is not good for English football in general

I completely disagree. Let La Liga carry the burden of inflated players' wages and the financial risk that it entails. I'd rather not see more clubs go the way of Portsmouth, Hull and Palace. The more overpaid 'stars' that leave England, the better IMO.
 

mil1lion

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We just had to change our system a bit when Berbatov left. It wasn't so much a case of replacing him like for like, but replacing the strike partnership of Keane and Berbatov.

This is the biggest challenge for Arsenal if they lose Fabregas. They wont get another midfielder like him. So they will have to change the way they play to a certain extent.

It could take them time to adjust to life without him. Hopefully long enough for us to get a good jump on them early on next season.
 

$hoguN

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I completely disagree. Let La Liga carry the burden of inflated players' wages and the financial risk that it entails. I'd rather not see more clubs go the way of Portsmouth, Hull and Palace.

Yes its not good that clubs are going into administration, but they are finding themselves in that situation through poor management. Yet, Arsenal are a well run club just like we are and can afford to pay players handsomely (not to a damaging level in which Man City or Real would, but still very well) without risking faliure. As a football fan I want the premier league to be as strong as it can be, and losing players of the ilk of Fabregas to a Spanish side doesn't make the league stronger.
 

joey55

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Did it?! Darren Bent and Roman Pavluchenko in that first season were shaft. We had to bring JD and RK back in to save us!

Wenger is astute however and won't spend recklessly. The annoying thing is he has Wilshire and Ramsay waiting in the wings.

But is he? Or rather is he quite as astute as his people make out. I don't think he's signed a truely world class player in 6 years. I also think the foundation of his success were certain edges he had over other Prem league managers. He was ahead of his time in that he had a world wide, top quality scouting network. He also had knowledge of a golden generation of French players. And of course he inherited the core of a double winning side.

He doesn't have these advantages anymore. No matter how astute he is the transfer market, it's not going to make up for the fact that every decent club in Europe now have far reaching scouting networks competing with him. The French market is now much more heavily scouted, prices are more inflated and most crucially the talent is far less than 10 years ago. There are no Pires, Vieira, Petite, Henry or Anelka style bargains to be had buying French players anymore. Thesedays you have to pay though the nose to get inferior players like Diarra and Nasri etc.

If you look at what are probably Wengers best ever deals, it's unlikley such similar transfers would be available to him thesedays. The modern day equivalents of players in Eredivise and Ligue 1 are pretty much known to every coach in Europe and aren't even of the same quality. Thesedays even messagebaord posters seem to know allabout players in Eastern Europe, so it's getting increasingly difficult for a manger like Wenger to compete, as the advantage he created for himself, which gave him the edge over other managers is no longer there.

Can't see where he's going to get the value and quality he got from these lot again.

Anelka £500,000
Vieira £3.5 million
Petite £2.5 million
Overmars £6 million
RVP £3.5 million
Campbell Free
Pires £6 million
Henry £10 million
 

mil1lion

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Arsenal have rejected the bid and are saying that they are not going to sell him.

Similar to the Berbatov situation.
 

yozza

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Barca were never gonna come in with an initial bid that Arsenal would agree to. I get the feeling this is going to drag on for a while.

Ironically, a couple of years ago Arsenal sold Henry to Barca when I was at Glastonbury, so hopefully in a few weeks time history can repeat itself and I can once again sing "Where's your saviour gone!" loud and proud!
 

Real_madyidd

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Barca trying to buy success. When will they learn that they will never be Real Madrid?
 
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