Can any of you watch this without getting angry?

[Bails]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_6665916,00.html

I was furious when watching this.

Basically it is the soccer suplement prasing how City have moved things around in the PL, breaking up the traditional title race.

They all agree that it has to be done by spending lots of money and that no club can 'organically grow' anymore to be challenging the top 4.

They say that city have done well and can't be blamed for spending as this is a deserved way.

At no point do the mention tottenham, how we actually managed to mix things up without a billionaire owner (I do understand we have spent quite a bit ourselves). I believe despite lots of early investment we have built our squad responsibly and sustainably however according to these people it is ok for City to go and do this as they make things interesting and no-one else can possible challange.

In my opinion in 4 years time (without city) after dislodging liverpool last year the constant CL money and prestige we would have 'organically' been PL contenders- people think this year we can!

Is it just me getting too worked up or do I have a point that City are cheating at this game and we deserve alot more respect for doing things in a more ethical way.

Unfortunalty the one time we do well I feel that we will be pushed aside by money- very bad timing

 

[Dibby]

Because we too have spent a shit load of cash in recent years.

 

[Raxscallion]

Because we too have spent a shit load of cash in recent years.

Not net we haven't, and nowhere near Citeh.

 

[brett.spurs]

Cash the club made, not cash that was handed on a plate to us. The amounts are hardly comparable either.

 

[Dibby]

I'm not comparing it to City, but we have still spent the 2nd most per season from 2006.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2006-2011.html

And from 92, we're 3rd.

 

[Spurger King]

After seeing all the corruption exposed at the level of FIFA, it would hardly surprise me if Man Shitty are offering cash incentives to Sky to promote them. After all...that crap littlle advert with the kid in the back of the car wearing a Man City shirt first appeared when they had done absolutely nothing apart from get brought by a bunch of rich people.

Sky have always been pretty vile, and are more interested in championing the teams filling their pockets, than showing respect to good teams for their own merits.

I fully agree with you Bails. Man City are getting the 'sky 4' treatment, despite not qualifying last season. I would be willing to bet a large amount of money on the Sky Sports executives being absolutely gutted when Crouch scored that winner against them last season.

 

[Legend10]

Seriously that show is the biggest piece of shit on tv, why take a blind bit of notice of it?

 

[NEVILLEB]

We're fifth

 

[Raxscallion]

We're fifth

Your mum's fifth.

 

[punky]

It makes me disappointed more TBH.

Deep down I hoped if they get CL (or heaven forbid, the league) that everyone would remain silent and just ignore them while they celebrated their entirely-hollow victory. When Sheik Mansoor gets bored, pulls his money out and Citeh collapses, normal service can then resume.

I can't remember who said it but someone (a journo, I think) did a wonderful job comparing people us valliant battling our way into the CL versus Citeh who if they do it would just amount to another purchase by a playboy with a fleet-of-fancy.

 

[sharky127]

After seeing all the corruption exposed at the level of FIFA, it would hardly surprise me if Man Shitty are offering cash incentives to Sky to promote them. After all...that crap littlle advert with the kid in the back of the car wearing a Man City shirt first appeared when they had done absolutely nothing apart from get brought by a bunch of rich people.

Sky have always been pretty vile, and are more interested in championing the teams filling their pockets, than showing respect to good teams for their own merits.

I fully agree with you Bails. Man City are getting the 'sky 4' treatment, despite not qualifying last season. I would be willing to bet a large amount of money on the Sky Sports executives being absolutely gutted when Crouch scored that winner against them last season.

Have you seen how many times we've been on tv this year! Its like we've all got tv season tickets so to suggest any exceptional bias is a tad unfair. At the end of the day Man City were top of the League this morning and we're in the middle of January so its understandable that the hacks are discussing their title credentials!

 

[KingKay]

That Neil Custis' face is just asking for a slap. I bet he's never even kicked a football.

 

[Monkey Bastard Hands]

Although we're definitely mixing things up, realistically and it pains me to say this, but we're not really changing much in the race for the title. As someone else said, we're fifth - not first. Man City are top of the table and when was the last time a team other than Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal was top of the table?

I understand what the OP is saying but you only have to look at the table to realise that City are having a much bigger impact than us at the moment.

 

[rebrab]

Your mum's filth.

:hump:

 

[sloth]

Because we too have spent a shit load of cash in recent years.

No we haven't.

We've spent the most or second most on transfers at £18m a year for the last five years.

BUT THAT'S DWARFED by the £150m a year City spend on wages. Or the £140m a year Chelsea do. Or the £135m Utd do. Or the £110m Liverpool do. Or the £100m Arsenal do.

We spend £70m a year on wages.

THAT'S £30M LESS THAN OUR NEAREST TOP FOUR RIVAL.

So £18m on transfers but £30m less than Arsenal. £12m a year a less than the next lowest spender. £60m over five years less than Arsenal.

But £80m a year less than City.

£70m less than Chelsea

£65m less than Utd.

Every fucking year.

Over five years that's...

400m fucking pounds less than City. That's a goddamn stadium.

£350m less than Chelsea. Still a stadium.

£325m less than Utd.

WE SPEND ON TRANSFERS ONLY £80M IN THE SAME PERIOD.

Sorry for shouting, but let's get some perspective here.

We spend a fraction what the five other clubs competing for fourth do. An order of magnitude less.

 

[Son_Of]

Cash the club made, not cash that was handed on a plate to us. The amounts are hardly comparable either.

good point

 

[Mr Pink]

We our spending relative amounts to what we can afford through what we bring in turnover wise etc - from being a successfuil well run club who take care in their financial planning and have been able to invest, ultimately, for these very reasons - which has seen us become more successful which obviously allows you to invest more.

The difference is we dont have 'sugar daddy' injections and why we will be in a very good position when the Financial Fair Play Regulations are introduced.

City are attempting to buy success, which they will do in the end - if you do enough fishing you're going to catch a fish eventually,

We are attempting to gain success through being a well rub Club that is self sufficient and self financing.

 

[Bails]

Although we're definitely mixing things up, realistically and it pains me to say this, but we're not really changing much in the race for the title. As someone else said, we're fifth - not first. Man City are top of the table and when was the last time a team other than Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal was top of the table?

I understand what the OP is saying but you only have to look at the table to realise that City are having a much bigger impact than us at the moment.

Yes Man City are making a bigger impact ( all be it only 5 points if we win our game in hand) but it was just the talk of 'this is the only way to break the top 4' without even mentioning it was done last year. As Spurger King said I thought we would be peoples team that they wanted to suceed however the favourite seems to be City.

With there spiralling wage and investment it has nothing to do with anything but money. If Everton got taken over instead they would be in the same position- nothing to do with city just money. Whereas spurs have spent big but regained on 30m Berba, 18m Carrick and 20m Keane to mention only a couple.

Just annoyed it has taken a good 7 years to build this team- get our younger players like Dawson, Hudd, Lennon experience and it feels like city are robbing us.

That would all be fine to me if people realised this and felt sorry for teams like spurs

However they seem to think it is brilliant what they are doing and encouraging this 'only' way to run a succesful football club in the moder era. The way they are justfying the reckless spending and talking up how wonderful they have been just angered me as I believe it is an undeserved way to make an impact

 

[Mattspur]

Of course we weren't spoken about in a discussion about breaking the top 4.

We are the top 4.

 

[mauritiusSpur]

re: I was furious when watching this.
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It's easy to get outraged, but you should download last weeks from Itunes. They all said they wanted Spurs to win the Premier League because of the way we played. It was nice to hear.