Bluto Blutarsky
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You’re right. I was thinking we were still waiting on Forest penalty.
Can we take a moment to laugh heartily at Everton?
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SirHarryHotspur
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Always good to hear the reasoning behind the desicions.
max cady
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Citeh & Cheatski will find away around it like they always do. Everton & Forest have been stupid and the punishment seems extremely lenient. As one poster said feel sorry for Luton & Brentford. I'd rather they stayed in prem than Everton or Forest.
SirHarryHotspur
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Like this bit , the views of clubs Fans Advisory Boards have no standing in disciplinary proceedings, basically football fans shut up 
267. Finally, we acknowledge the Impact Statement and witness statement submitted by Everton FAB, but we repeat what was said by the Appeal Board at [158]-[159] and [185]. Everton FAB have no standing in these proceedings. As a matter of principle, it would be wrong for the views of Everton FAB to impact the appropriate sanction, particularly in circumstances where the supporters of other clubs would undoubtedly have other views they would ask us to consider.
267. Finally, we acknowledge the Impact Statement and witness statement submitted by Everton FAB, but we repeat what was said by the Appeal Board at [158]-[159] and [185]. Everton FAB have no standing in these proceedings. As a matter of principle, it would be wrong for the views of Everton FAB to impact the appropriate sanction, particularly in circumstances where the supporters of other clubs would undoubtedly have other views they would ask us to consider.
DogsOfWar
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The PL set a precedent with 10 points, realised it could relegate Everton so cut it to 6.
Now they have made it just 2 for the same offence when in my view it should be more for a repeat.
Very unfair on the rest of the bottom clubs in my view as the points deduction will have very little affect on their season as they would only still be three places higher so costing them nothing.
Now they have made it just 2 for the same offence when in my view it should be more for a repeat.
Very unfair on the rest of the bottom clubs in my view as the points deduction will have very little affect on their season as they would only still be three places higher so costing them nothing.
SirHarryHotspur
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Think you have to read the judgement to see how the independent commission arrive at the two point penalty, it was five points deduction reduced by three for mitigation.
luRRka
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But that's bullshit. You can't reduce the points taken because they've already been penalised once. You should increase them as they've not learned their lesson
Wheeler Dealer
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Everton need to thank Sheff Utd, Burnley and Luton for being so shite. Had this happened last season, they would have been relegated
Yid-ol
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If the penalties were done in separate seasons, or in a timely manner for the corresponding years, I would agree. But as they have just been done for one offence and then using some of the same seasons to punish again would be harsh.
The FA need to be looking at the finances a lot sooner so proper punishments can be assigned at the time IMO. But everyone have got lucky in how few points they have lost plus how poor the bottom few clubs are this year.
DogsOfWar
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I'm still not convinced Everton losing their dodgy funding, admitting to the offence (which would be obvious from the accounts anyway), and repeating the offence should be grounds for a ridiculously low points reduction.
It just smacks of the PL enforcing a punishment that has no real world effect.
The only punishment that works is one that has an effect, ie, a points deduction that all but relegates them.
SirHarryHotspur
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Not out of trouble yet when you look at their games , especially if Luton continue a mini revival.
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luRRka
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If that's their thinking, give them 2 points now and a deffered 4 points for next season then
and seemingly likely to lose their two best outfield players at least according to the BBC Transfer News section.
Wheeler Dealer
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If Leicester and Leeds come up next year, I expect them to pick up more points than any of Luton, Sheff U and Burnley have done this season, so Everton will be back in the shit along with Forest, (play off winner), Brentford and Bournemouth.
The loss of the bankrolling of the silent partner due to Putin invading Ukraine Is considered a mitigating factor helping their case?!?!?!?!? Hahahaahah. At least the league is transparent that they are a fucking joke.
UncleBuck
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Well they’ve already written of £900k a week over twenty years from Abramovich
SirHarryHotspur
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That was part of Everton's plea for mitigation, the Premier League said it should not be a mitigating factor, if the three man panel of James Drake K.C., Kwadjo Adjepong and Michael Kaltz FCA have accepted that mitigation then that is their desicion not the Premier League's.
The PL submitted that Everton was not entitled to any mitigation because such suspension was fundamentally ordinary. Put another way, the loss of a sponsor was an event in the ordinary course of a club’s trading and should have been taken into account as a normal operating risk. In this regard, as summarised above, the PL put to Everton’s witnesses that the loss of a sponsor is an event which may befall any club, and that Everton had exceeded the Upper Loss Threshold due to imprudent financial planning. The PL further argued that:
137.1. Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, other clubs had Russian sponsors and did not encounter Upper Loss Threshold difficulties
WiganSpur
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The PL have shit themselves after the initial 10 point deduction to Everton as the reaction was obviously “Well surely that relegates City or the bias is brazen” and they clearly don’t want to do that.