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HildoSpur

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I'll be seriously pissed off if we spend the type of money quoted for Gallagher and then say Todibo or Babayoko were too dear for us. We're stacked in midfield and have much bigger fish to fry.
I have no issue with it as we would likely sell Hojberg for at least 25 million anyway if Gallagher came in. We may be stacked in midfield as you put it but only Bentancur, Sarr and Bissouma are of the required standard in the centre of the park, the standard drops off a cliff when you get past those three. Bentancur is still coming back from a very serious injury and Bissouma is managing to get himself banned every third game.
 

Ghost Hardware

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£50m for Gallagher, they’re having a laugh. What a waste of resources that would be. Far better off signing a young 6 with high potential and then using most of our funds to sign a quality backup CB and starting level winger.

Personally I always thought a young 6 with big potential should be the move anyway. Gallagher doesn’t get into our starting 11 when everyone is fit and doesn’t really excel in any particular area. I could sort of understand getting him for around 35 mil IF PEH were to leave as he’s a hard worker, HG and a sort of Jack of all trades midfielder who can play as a 6 and 8 but at that price it would be a bad move.

Really we are so stacked in CM that I think we would be so much better off getting a young player in the similar mould to Udogie and Sarr.

Like you say a CB should be a priority for our finances then a quality WF. If PEH goes yes we will probably need another 6 but not one for 40+ mil.

Just to add, if we were to look in that price market Andre would be a much better target I feel.
 

Tucker

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I do wonder if the form of Sarr makes this transfer less likely now. He’s been a revelation this year and I can’t see us spending £50 million on Gallagher when we have him playing so well there.
 

Hotspur88

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We won't spend £50m on Gallagher, if we sign him, it will be because Chelsea are pushing him our way and therefore we have a stronger position in negotiations. I see a deal where we pay £35m plus maybe £5m in add ons but I don't see us going any higher than that. Ange is a big fan and I do feel for the right club and system he could be a great addition. However, we would need to sell or at least guarantee by the Summer that PEH was gone as he's the easiest to shift. CB is obviously the priority so it depends how much of the budget we spend on that position. Unfortunately it does seem very much that after a CB, it will be a case of needing to get rid of players before we can sign anymore.
 

Led Revolver

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We won't spend £50m on Gallagher, if we sign him, it will be because Chelsea are pushing him our way and therefore we have a stronger position in negotiations. I see a deal where we pay £35m plus maybe £5m in add ons but I don't see us going any higher than that. Ange is a big fan and I do feel for the right club and system he could be a great addition. However, we would need to sell or at least guarantee by the Summer that PEH was gone as he's the easiest to shift. CB is obviously the priority so it depends how much of the budget we spend on that position. Unfortunately it does seem very much that after a CB, it will be a case of needing to get rid of players before we can sign anymore.
This sounds entirely sensible to me. £35-40m for him with PEH leaving for around 20-25m would make perfect sense if achievable. Any more would be too expensive. Happy to just sit this one out and see what happens.

Priority is always centre back with sensible deadlines key. If Nice don’t sell Todibo by 10th January, then move on.
 

Ghost Hardware

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A cheaper option

Someone like him would make a lot of sense also Archie Grey at Leeds who’s only 17 but looks a very exciting prospect could be a very astute move. Essentially there are a lot of young prospects in CM out there that for me would just make more sense especially from a financial perspective.
 

HildoSpur

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Someone like him would make a lot of sense also Archie Grey at Leeds who’s only 17 but looks a very exciting prospect could be a very astute move. Essentially there are a lot of young prospects in CM out there that for me would just make more sense especially from a financial perspective.
Archie Gray is a really good talent but he is Leeds through and through and I don't think he would be interested in moving anytime soon.
 

Hazelton

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I do wonder if the form of Sarr makes this transfer less likely now. He’s been a revelation this year and I can’t see us spending £50 million on Gallagher when we have him playing so well there.
I'd imagine Bissouma was the player most at risk from this signing, based on current form and discipline record.
 

King of the Lane

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A cheaper option


Ive been campaigning for him for a while on here. We should 100%, go for him over Gallagher imo. Vermereen's potential is massive and he would suit our style of play.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Ive been campaigning for him for a while on here. We should 100%, go for him over Gallagher imo. Vermereen's potential is massive and he would suit our style of play.

Are they not different positions though. Vermereen more a sitting player who would compete with Bissouma for the deep role, Gallagher more likely to compete with Sarr or Maddison higher up the pitch.
 

King of the Lane

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Are they not different positions though. Vermereen more a sitting player who would compete with Bissouma for the deep role, Gallagher more likely to compete with Sarr or Maddison higher up the pitch.

Yeah Vermereen would sit more as a DM that sprays passes around and helps dictate our play. We have Sarr, Bentancur, Maddison, Deki and Donley that can play the 8 or AM role. Only Bentancur can really cover for Bissouma so Vermereen would make more sense than Gallagher imo.
 

FloridaSpur

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But he’s not a much better footballer which is what I was replying to and I wouldn’t say Lo Celso lacks desire, commitment and willingness when he plays.

I don’t know why it hasn’t worked out for Lo Celso, I think the turbulence at the end of the Poch era, his reluctance to play new signings that were seeing at Chelsea now then Mourhinho and Conte football made it difficult for him to get going here and get consistent football. He’s a quality player that joined the club at the wrong time.

Gallagher is a hard worker and I like his energy and the ground he covers but he’s not Chelsea’s best player and on the ball he’s pretty average.

I think it's patently obvious.

He's never taken any game by the scruff of the neck.

Good player but not for the Premier League, as time has shown. Just sixty appearances since 2019 would suggest that Poch, Nuno, Jose, Conte and Ange just don't see his contribution as critical to the team.
 

FloridaSpur

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Personally I always thought a young 6 with big potential should be the move anyway. Gallagher doesn’t get into our starting 11 when everyone is fit and doesn’t really excel in any particular area. I could sort of understand getting him for around 35 mil IF PEH were to leave as he’s a hard worker, HG and a sort of Jack of all trades midfielder who can play as a 6 and 8 but at that price it would be a bad move.

Really we are so stacked in CM that I think we would be so much better off getting a young player in the similar mould to Udogie and Sarr.

Like you say a CB should be a priority for our finances then a quality WF. If PEH goes yes we will probably need another 6 but not one for 40+ mil.

Just to add, if we were to look in that price market Andre would be a much better target I feel.

In squad rotation (and that will be important if we make European football) I'd sooner have an option to bring on Gallagher than Pierre or Skipp.

Ange is trying to build quality in depth, and fifty million is a good deal for the player we would get. Some i here saying 35+ add on's so in real terms adding another ten million over the terms of the sale is a drop in the ocean in real terms.

The question what Ange see's as a quality addition and not how we as fans see the value?

I just can't see Chelsea wanting to sell, don't know where the came from, but he's a quality player.
 

Locotoro

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Watching him now against Palace and he looks like Hojbjerg with a bit more pace. Really lacking ideas, constantly passing it back, never seems to turn on the ball, even worse bailing out of tackles.

He may be one of their better players but this Chelsea team is the worst I've seen them in 30 years
 

wspur

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Di Marzio used to be top tier but he hasn't been so good lately no? I recall he had some misses recently
 

wiggo24

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Wasn't particularly keen on this during the summer but having watched how we play under Ange and how Gallagher has played under Poch I think it makes sense.

The reason we've struggled so much when we lose Sarr is because of his off-the-ball work. He's everywhere. Gallagher is the same, but with a little more experience, ball striking ability and leadership. Sarr and Gallagher as options for that second no.8 spot alongside Maddison makes a lot of sense stylistically.
 
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