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Conor Gallagher

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Fair enough. I get that. But it is geuninely used by coaches, analysts and such in the game and they use it to make things easier, as opposed to using more words.

If an analyst is writing some info down for a coach, he will want to use 'GK into the 6 and through the lines'.

I scout (and teach English to coaches, analysts) so I have to use this jargon and because we have Spanish, German, Italian coaches at the top of the game, it has kind of become its own language, and these coaches universally speak it.

I totally get that the majority of people can't be doing with that, I certainly wouldn't use it with my mates at the pub. But if I am getting down to tactics with someone or working, then I will use it cause they would likely be on the same page.

I am only saying this because it seems to be a belief that it is tosh and just made up nonsense, but it isn't, it is geuninely used in the game.

Fans of course, will take differently to it. So I suppose it is really about who you are talking to.

You may find all that boring but I thought I'd share.
So what happens when an innovative coach doesn't use a conventional box-to box midfielder and goes for something new?


"I want Roberto to play something between a 6 and an 8, slightly more forward though and to the left, and I want Willy doing the same on the right...so Roberto, you fill the 7.3 slot and Willy, I want you at about 7.6. or 7.75 if you really can't hold back and if their 5.82 goes for an early inverted withdrawal, or maybe a 4.37 if we take an early lead.

And Dave...you're in goal."
 

FloridaSpur

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I think he's a good player, but he's not £45-50m. I'd be happy to take him for say £30m but I don't think he's worth more than that. Ange has been very keen on him from the start and we should be backing the manager. If Ange loves him, the recruitment team like him, he fits our ethos and is viable for the right price then it's a no brainer for me and I'll back the decision 100%. The only way we even entertain it is if PEH leaves (which looks difficult) and they contact us as Trix & WLB have said so it's not something we need to overly discuss as it stands.

I think that Johnson is a good player as well, so should we have paid 30m for him, rather than the 47.5m that we did?

No club would get Gallagher for 30m not one and rightly so. Would improve our strength on depth in midfield and is quicker, and better on the ball than either Skipp or Pierre.

Can't see this transfer happening but would be a big upgrade.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Fair enough. I get that. But it is geuninely used by coaches, analysts and such in the game and they use it to make things easier, as opposed to using more words.

If an analyst is writing some info down for a coach, he will want to use 'GK into the 6 and through the lines'.

I scout (and teach English to coaches, analysts) so I have to use this jargon and because we have Spanish, German, Italian coaches at the top of the game, it has kind of become its own language, and these coaches universally speak it.

I totally get that the majority of people can't be doing with that, I certainly wouldn't use it with my mates at the pub. But if I am getting down to tactics with someone or working, then I will use it cause they would likely be on the same page.

I am only saying this because it seems to be a belief that it is tosh and just made up nonsense, but it isn't, it is geuninely used in the game.

Fans of course, will take differently to it. So I suppose it is really about who you are talking to.

You may find all that boring but I thought I'd share.
If there was a tactics thread where it was being discussed I don't think anyone would care but wading through the CG thread discussing his position/number/ista is for me at least insanely boring
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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If there was a tactics thread where it was being discussed I don't think anyone would care but wading through the CG thread discussing his position/number/ista is for me at least insanely boring
Maybe it's boring - but it does bear directly on whether his skills fit the roles we are looking to fill. (they do).
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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I'm sorry but I have almost no idea what people are banging on about with this Numberwang malarkey.

Can someone please educate me and every other normal person for whom this latest fad has passed by with a breakdown?

I mean, we’re not completely unaware, we know number one is a goalie :D

But come on, fucking hell, this is just the latest hipster bollocks really isn’t it and the trouble with it is, ‘normals’ don’t have a clue what you’re on about 🤪 ;)

It’s my generations revenge upon yours for banging on about ‘inside left wing halves’ throughout the 90s despite everyone playing 442.
 
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Hercules

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Defensive midfielder, shielding the back 4. Able to keep possession, and distribute effectively.
 

daveduvet

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Where has the trend for positions to be defined by numbers come from?

It used to just be the 'Number 9' which was a teams top CF.

I'ts very odd.
It’s a different language for me. I nod along with folk talking about 6’s & 8’s, as if I understand…
 

BorjeSpurs

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The most active transfer threads at the moment are Gallagher and Kelly.

This is understandable as we’ve had an injury crisis in these positions and our amazing start to the season has been hampered as a result.

However, there are only two outfield positions where we haven’t had problems with injury and that is the two fullback positions. Porro has been in every single squad this season and Udogie has missed one single game through injury.

For me, Sarr, Bentancur and Lo Celso are all better options in the box to box role than Emerson is as a 2nd choice RB.

Similarly, VDV, Dragusin and Davies are all better options in the LCB role than what Emerson/Davies are as 2nd choice LB.

Therefore I’d rather strengthen our 2nd choice fullback options, ideally with someone who can rotate on both flanks and who suits Ange’s system which Davies and Emerson does not.
 

only1waddle

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The most active transfer threads at the moment are Gallagher and Kelly.

This is understandable as we’ve had an injury crisis in these positions and our amazing start to the season has been hampered as a result.

However, there are only two outfield positions where we haven’t had problems with injury and that is the two fullback positions. Porro has been in every single squad this season and Udogie has missed one single game through injury.

For me, Sarr, Bentancur and Lo Celso are all better options in the box to box role than Emerson is as a 2nd choice RB.

Similarly, VDV, Dragusin and Davies are all better options in the LCB role than what Emerson & Davies are in the LB role.

Therefore I’d rather strengthen our 2nd choice fullback options, ideally with someone who can rotate on both flanks and who suits Ange’s system which Davies and Emerson does not.

That might happen in the summer but I don't think its necessary right now, I'd argue that Emerson is far more reliable fitness wise than GLC currently, he's been the better back up this season, Bissouma has dipped, Bentancur we need to wrap in cotton wool somewhat and we can't rely on Skipp or PEH, an opportunistic move for Gallagher makes sense.
Transfer windows are quite often about opportunity, and if we can get Kelly on the cheap now, or Chelsea are desperate to filter their FFP a bit then we move smart, not make unnecessary work for ourselves.
 
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McFlash

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So, with good early business having been done, are we now resorting to complaining about referring to numbers as positions for the rest of the window?
 

Dazzazzad

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The most active transfer threads at the moment are Gallagher and Kelly.

This is understandable as we’ve had an injury crisis in these positions and our amazing start to the season has been hampered as a result.

However, there are only two outfield positions where we haven’t had problems with injury and that is the two fullback positions. Porro has been in every single squad this season and Udogie has missed one single game through injury.

For me, Sarr, Bentancur and Lo Celso are all better options in the box to box role than Emerson is as a 2nd choice RB.
Disagree, Emerson was fantastic at rb last season and has been very good in a variety of unnatural positions this season.

Yes, he doesn't have Porro's toolkit but he has his own strengths. For example I believe Porro is amongst the worst when defending a player running at him and Emerson is if nothing else a very solid defender.

He's a very good backup to have and is unlucky he hasn't played more at rb this season.
 
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