daniel levy

[adiepf]

i am a staunch pro levy man, i believe he has done wonders for this football club but yesterday my friend (another pro-levy man) said something to me which i cant shake....

"why do we always bid huge money on the last day of the transfer window & not the first day"...."is levy mis leading the fans"...

he is right, i mean how much more impressive would it be if you saw the yellow ticker today saying "spurs bid €35m for aguero"?

i love DL, but patience maybe running thin???

thoughts?

 

[The Apprentice]

A shrewd businessman who has made us a competitive team on a much lower salary level than our rivals.

We'll rue the day if he ever leaves.

 

[guate]

It's the nature of the man IMHO as he's always looking to get the best deal for Spurs provided the player ticks all the correct boxes, i.e age, health, sell on factor etc.
Appeasing the fans by paying over the top prices is simply not his way and that's why we occasionally miss out on some of the top players being shunted around, however having said that Luka is a classic example of a rare early signing when we really are after our man.

 

[adiepf]

A shrewd businessman who has made us a competitive team on a much lower salary level than our rivals.

We'll rue the day if he ever leaves.

i dont disagree...but why make bids that cant be completed in time??

he must realise we arent that stupid?

for the record its just a question, i love DL

 

[Blockbuster]

Think its funny he says we are not a selling club, yet always prefers to buy players with sell on value....

 

[dav3j]

i am a staunch pro levy man, i believe he has done wonders for this football club but yesterday my friend (another pro-levy man) said something to me which i cant shake....

"why do we always bid huge money on the last day of the transfer window & not the first day"...."is levy mis leading the fans"...

he is right, i mean how much more impressive would it be if you saw the yellow ticker today saying "spurs bid €35m for aguero"?

i love DL, but patience maybe running thin???

thoughts?

I think a lot of it is down to the likelihood that putting in an early bid for a player could spark a bidding war. With bids later in the transfer window, the selling club would have less time to play the bidding clubs off against each other.

 

[Adam456]

i dont disagree...but why make bids that cant be completed in time??

he must realise we arent that stupid?

for the record its just a question, i love DL

Not sure that you can say they wouldn't be completed. Sure we had a thread on this in the last window. Nice to have your business done early but it's a bit of a game of poker. Everybody hoping that by hanging on they get the best deal. Selling club might be deliberately creating an auction and you need to ensure your final bid is close to the deadline so theat they're too scared not to take it. Could be that selling club might have a dependency on a signing or that we have one on a sell. Also the prospect of a deadline-day bargain (like VDV).

That said, if you were Levy and wanted fans to know you had tried really hard to get a striker, wouldn't you be happy for it to get round that you made a massive bid ? Would be amazed if those bids were fake/had no intention of fulfilling. A lot of (behind scenes) reputation at stake there

 

[michaelden]

"why do we always bid huge money on the last day of the transfer window & not the first day"...."is levy mis leading the fans"...

thoughts?

I think your mate knows f-all about auctions, which is essentially what buying a footballer is. The more interested parties + the longer time for them to bid = higher final deal close

To open the bidding on day 1 with £35M says, I can go higher & am desperate to land said player. The seller will just wait and see what develops rather than biting your hand off.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Think its funny he says we are not a selling club, yet always prefers to buy players with sell on value....

That's for accounting purposes.

 

[Kyras]

Think its funny he says we are not a selling club, yet always prefers to buy players with sell on value....

Assets are always handy to have in case of financial difficulties. Imagine we get in a spot of financial bother, if we have three or four £20m players the club survives, if we have old players we can't do this and we'd go under.

 

[Krafty]

First of, we don't really know what bids are made. A lot of what comes up in the papers and interweb are total nonsense, really lazy journalism. You can multiply this by about a million and two when it comes to the last day of the transfer window...

Also, we don't know how negotiations pan out. Right now Aguero wants out, for example. He would rather stay in Spain and wants to go to Real, but Atletico don't want to sell to their city rivals because the fans will be pissed off. We could bid 45 mill and Aguero would reject us because he wants to move to Real, but with only a couple of days left of the window, once Real have signed a new striker and are not interested, we might become an attractive option. Then we go in we the same bid we made three months earlier and now it gets accepted and the player moves...

This is without considering for a moment that levy will negotiate the jebus out of the deal to get the best value.

Without being a part of the negotiation team (or even Levy himself) we don't know the ins and outs. But typically deals get done late in the window as the need to buy/sell becomes greater. Just see Suarez/Torres/Carroll in January. I don't think we are particularly unique, if anything our ambition to sign top players but not being able to offer titles or massive wages means we have to wait a little longer to get those players to sign sometimes

 

[dynamoSpurs]

if the player didnt have sell on value, he'd be crap, no?

 

[mattdefoe]

no because scott parker wont have much sell on value and he isnt crap? but i get your point.

 

[sloth]

i am a staunch pro levy man, i believe he has done wonders for this football club but yesterday my friend (another pro-levy man) said something to me which i cant shake....

"why do we always bid huge money on the last day of the transfer window & not the first day"...."is levy mis leading the fans"...

he is right, i mean how much more impressive would it be if you saw the yellow ticker today saying "spurs bid €35m for aguero"?

i love DL, but patience maybe running thin???

thoughts?

Have you ever haggled with someone before? Do you go in at the price you're willing to pay or somewhere miles below it?

Have you ever sold something valuable which more than one person wants? Do you sell it to the first person who comes along with a pile of cash or do you wait for the market to bid it up?

Should Ashley have just sold Carroll to the first person who offered him £25m, or was he correct to wait as long as possible in the knowledge that he had a buyer lined up who would fork out at least £25m if he couldn't find anyone to pay stupid money?

Were Liverpool correct to go in at £20m for Jordan Henderson? They guaranteed the purchase and got the deal done, but was he worth the premium they paid?

Ask yourself all of these questions and then you'll have your answer.

 

[Dr Know]

i dont disagree...but why make bids that cant be completed in time??

he must realise we arent that stupid?

for the record its just a question, i love DL

This is a question that has been, is being, and will always be asked by not just Spurs fans but anyone who watches football and has an interest in who signing who.................................................. no I don't have the answer either

 

[sloth]

Think its funny he says we are not a selling club, yet always prefers to buy players with sell on value....

Every club is a selling club!

The distinction is whether you have constant churn with every year the sale of your best players just to balance the books, or you buy players with the intention of improving the team and you trade normally as circumstances dictate.

 

[NEVILLEB]

I've been saying this for 5 years and I'm stunned more people haven't realised how damaging it's been.

Man Utd do their business early and it's a big reason why they are so successful. Fergie has a CLEAR plan and executes it. He doesn't piss around like Levy does.

Last christmas was a complete circus. First Levy wastes his time with David Beckham. Then he was fighting over the olympic stadium. Finally he realised the window was about to close and started waving his chequebook trying to sign ANYONE! Charlie Adam anyone?

You can't have the chairman signing players instead of the manager. He seems to want to play manager sometimes and it's one of the reasons Jol and Ramos failed. He wanted more control so he brought in Comolli to control the managers. This was a disaster and if Harry hadn't done so well then we could easily have been relegated that season. People have very short memories on here...

It's his one weakness but it's a bloody annoying one.

 

[hellava_tough]

I think your mate knows f-all about auctions, which is essentially what buying a footballer is. The more interested parties + the longer time for them to bid = higher final deal close

To open the bidding on day 1 with £35M says, I can go higher & am desperate to land said player. The seller will just wait and see what develops rather than biting your hand off.

Have you ever haggled with someone before? Do you go in at the price you're willing to pay or somewhere miles below it?

Have you ever sold something valuable which more than one person wants? Do you sell it to the first person who comes along with a pile of cash or do you wait for the market to bid it up?

Should Ashley have just sold Carroll to the first person who offered him £25m, or was he correct to wait as long as possible in the knowledge that he had a buyer lined up who would fork out at least £25m if he couldn't find anyone to pay stupid money?

Were Liverpool correct to go in at £20m for Jordan Henderson? They guaranteed the purchase and got the deal done, but was he worth the premium they paid?

Ask yourself all of these questions and then you'll have your answer.

True enough, but if you had 4 or 5 different targets for each position and bid 15-20% over the odds early in the transfer window, at least one bid would get accepted; I doubt they'd all be holding out until late August

And I think that extra 15-20% would be well spent because you'd get a whole pre-season out of your new player, which would serve you well come the end of the season

Of course it all depends on the circumstances, including player availability, resale value, wages, financial circumstances of selling club, etc

 

[Sir Henry]

There is no-one else I would want at Spurs. Levy is a genius.