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jonathanhotspur

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He fucking let himself down after Alli's goal against Palace. TV cameras caught him clenching his fist and smiling. Then he remembered who he was.
 

Spursidol

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ERO

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And that's the way it was intended. Unfortunately for some on here, (mainly the thought Police) sarcasm, wit, is way beyond their thought process.

You changed fan to fanny...
 

chaching

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You should temper your implied accusations of impropriety tbh, they're unfounded & unfair. Many people gets opportunities by way connections & introductions - of which clearly he has some in Investec

As to Enic, Daniel Levy has every right to bring his son into it. Joe Lewis's daughter is also involved.

Family businesses are the bedrock of the global economy.

This isn't a Government parastatal or something
Sorry to get political and side track this thread but many people may get opportunities by way of connections & introductions but that doesn't make it right.
I may be jealous as I have got where I have got to without any real connections but can see many other people less able and less qualified in better jobs due to who they know rather than what they know. In my opinion they are costing companies when they can get much better people in.
I am no socialist but its another factor in keeping the rich richer and is a weakness in our economy.
 

Spursidol

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Sorry to get political and side track this thread but many people may get opportunities by way of connections & introductions but that doesn't make it right.
I may be jealous as I have got where I have got to without any real connections but can see many other people less able and less qualified in better jobs due to who they know rather than what they know. In my opinion they are costing companies when they can get much better people in.
I am no socialist but its another factor in keeping the rich richer and is a weakness in our economy.

Can't disagree with your indignation - but I know of no society where parents don't try to get the best for their kids, and sometimes that leads to over-promotion to the detriment of other people's interests. On the other hand its true that where handing over power in a family business from one generation to another works, it makes for strong businesses, which is good for society in general.

But its also true (and regrettably common) that some people recruit people badly and some completely unsuitable people get top jobs where they can totally destroy businesses - and that's where there are no family connections at all.

Regrettably that's life.
 

chaching

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Can't disagree with your indignation - but I know of no society where parents don't try to get the best for their kids, and sometimes that leads to over-promotion to the detriment of other people's interests. On the other hand its true that where handing over power in a family business from one generation to another works, it makes for strong businesses, which is good for society in general.

But its also true (and regrettably common) that some people recruit people badly and some completely unsuitable people get top jobs where they can totally destroy businesses - and that's where there are no family connections at all.

Regrettably that's life.
Can I dislike and agree at the same time.

Although the majority of family businesses (I know there are some major large exceptions) last three generations. First generation builds it, second generation sees how much effort has gone into it and learns the business steadies the ship and may grow a bit, third generation just sees it as their right to have without putting in the full effort and the business falters. It would generally be better for the second generation to be pragmatic and really work out if their offspring are good enough and if not sell the company off so at least their children can enjoy the wealth.

I have worked for a family company that was in its second generation and I could see the managing directors daughter who was being lined up was a huge waste of space and was one of the reasons why I left. The company has now folded

While writing this I was thinking what I would do when my children were old enough to work and I was in a position to give them a good job. You are right I would probably be a hypocrite and give them a helping hand but I would like to think that I would at least make them start at the bottom and work their way up while learning the business.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Sorry to get political and side track this thread but many people may get opportunities by way of connections & introductions but that doesn't make it right.
I may be jealous as I have got where I have got to without any real connections but can see many other people less able and less qualified in better jobs due to who they know rather than what they know. In my opinion they are costing companies when they can get much better people in.
I am no socialist but its another factor in keeping the rich richer and is a weakness in our economy.
This is life my friend, and the corner stone of private enterprise is being able to leave your assets to your kids and future generations.

Of course in Government and in Public enterprise this is illegal and called Nepotism, but in private enterprise it is what it is.

If you worked your whole life to build a business, you'd want to bring your son or daughter into it wouldn't you? And i wager you would be pretty far from okay with Govt telling you you couldn't because he was your son!
 

Spursidol

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Can I dislike and agree at the same time.

Although the majority of family businesses (I know there are some major large exceptions) last three generations. First generation builds it, second generation sees how much effort has gone into it and learns the business steadies the ship and may grow a bit, third generation just sees it as their right to have without putting in the full effort and the business falters. It would generally be better for the second generation to be pragmatic and really work out if their offspring are good enough and if not sell the company off so at least their children can enjoy the wealth.

I have worked for a family company that was in its second generation and I could see the managing directors daughter who was being lined up was a huge waste of space and was one of the reasons why I left. The company has now folded

While writing this I was thinking what I would do when my children were old enough to work and I was in a position to give them a good job. You are right I would probably be a hypocrite and give them a helping hand but I would like to think that I would at least make them start at the bottom and work their way up while learning the business.

Yup but you missed my second point - people appointing incompetent people (not family) to senior positions.

I've been made redundant twice because people selected incompetent selected incompetent managers (after I joined) whose mistakes led to the company folding.

Regrettably appointing people to positions they can't do happens - and far more frequently than appointing family to jobs they can't do.

Getting family to start at the bottom helps - but its not a guarantee that they can handle the top job. And will the father see that and appoint an outsider instead ? Sometimes, but most will still appoint the son or daughter.....
 

chaching

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Yup but you missed my second point - people appointing incompetent people (not family) to senior positions.

I've been made redundant twice because people selected incompetent selected incompetent managers (after I joined) whose mistakes led to the company folding.

Regrettably appointing people to positions they can't do happens - and far more frequently than appointing family to jobs they can't do.

Getting family to start at the bottom helps - but its not a guarantee that they can handle the top job. And will the father see that and appoint an outsider instead ? Sometimes, but most will still appoint the son or daughter.....

Sorry I do agree about your second point but a decent recruitment process and developing talent already in the company on average should be better than just going for little Johnny. Unfortunately more often than not companies either go for little Johnny or believe there are better people out there than what they already have and use antiquated recruitment processes to get people that are not suitable but are good at BS.

These are really high up positions that Josh has taken a couple of years after leaving university so the chances that he was the best person for these roles seams very unlikely. At that age I thought I more or less knew it all but now I look at it I really didn't.
 

mil1lion

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Does Levy ever celebrate goals? You always see him sitting there with his poker face on, trying to look cool and collected, but I've never seen the camera pan over to him when we score. Can anyone who sits anywhere near him confirm whether he's comatose for the whole 90 mins or whether he does actually celebrate when we score?
I imagine he just does this every time we score

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Bulletspur

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Sorry I do agree about your second point but a decent recruitment process and developing talent already in the company on average should be better than just going for little Johnny. Unfortunately more often than not companies either go for little Johnny or believe there are better people out there than what they already have and use antiquated recruitment processes to get people that are not suitable but are good at BS.

These are really high up positions that Josh has taken a couple of years after leaving university so the chances that he was the best person for these roles seams very unlikely. At that age I thought I more or less knew it all but now I look at it I really didn't.
What if "little Johnny" is the best fit? Josh Levy's credentials and qualifications suggests that he is a credible appointee.
 
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