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Always appreciate it when someone goes to the effort
It would be really easy to be facetious and sugggest we sign Willian- who your stats show to be involved in almost double the goals of lamela in the last few seasons.
I do agree that it’s hard to sign a player who would bring Eriksen levels- although potentially that was lo celso & Ndombele.
Maybe Willian and brooks would be a good pair of signings?
I do, however, think that selling Lamela would prove difficult, not least because I don’t think he’d want to leave
Always appreciate it when someone goes to the effort of identifying stats, which are useful here.Well yes, I have gone over the top. But, he would look much better if he was given more space to do so.
Lamela's end product is more middling then poor tbh. I will compare with a similar player in Willian
19/20 Goals 4 Assists 6 (G/A every 166 mins) Willian Goals 11 Assists 9 (G/A every 168)
18/19 Goals 6 Assists 3 (G/a every 172 mins) Willian Goals 8 Assists 14 (G/A every 161 mins)
17/18 Goals 4 Assists 7 (G/A every 125 mins) Willian goals 13 Assists 12 (G/A every 122 mins)
16/17 Goals 2 Assists 7 (G/A every 105 mins) Willian goals 12 Assists 5 (G/A every 119mins)
15/16 Goals 11 Assists 10 (G/A every 146 mins) Willian goals 11 Assists 10 (G/A every 161 minutes)
14/15 Goals 5 Assists 10 (G/A every 195) Willian Goals 4 Assists 5 (G/A every 362 mins)
These are not bad stats. Pre injury he was actually reaching a point of being very productive. Post injury he has become more comfortable with being a player who brings aggression and bite rather than trying to be an out and out creator, while still averaging more than 10 goal involvements a season. As I expected, Willian, also a player not known for his output but other things he contributes to the team, has a remarkably similar productivity rate. If Lamela was playing regularly he should be hitting about 10 goals and 10 assists per season, those are far from bad numbers.
People talk about Madison being good and all but his stats are not particularly better, in fact they are actually way worse! For a team that has also created more goals than us.
Maddison has
9 goals 3 assists in 3091 minutes. 12 goal involvements in 3091 mins. So if my maths is right, Maddison is involved in a goal every 257 mins. Lamela has never had stats that low in a single season with us (his first season was G/A in every 190m). Similarly, he has also hit a better rate every season than Jack Grealish has this season, Jack is on a goal involvement every 197 mins.
So Lamela's rate is not bad. It's not bad at all. It's just not elite level, but playing regularly he is someone you would expect to be getting around 20-25 goal involvements in all competitions a season. That is very respectable and in line with typical squad AM's in the top 6. The thing is most of these players, Grealish, Brooks etc. are way more likely to do something similar to what Lamela does in terms of productivity, than become the next Son or Eriksen. Those kind of stats are stuff that only very few players can hit.
It would be really easy to be facetious and sugggest we sign Willian- who your stats show to be involved in almost double the goals of lamela in the last few seasons.
I do agree that it’s hard to sign a player who would bring Eriksen levels- although potentially that was lo celso & Ndombele.
Maybe Willian and brooks would be a good pair of signings?
I do, however, think that selling Lamela would prove difficult, not least because I don’t think he’d want to leave
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