DC to be sacked? From COYS

[yid0]

lucho?

 

[yanno]

I'd imagine the number one target will be Pitarch. He came very close to tempting Ramos to Athletico (according to the Revista show), so they obviously repsect each other. He built the sides that were so successful at Valencia for Cuper and Benitez and within a short space of time has turned things round at Atletico, who are on the verge of CL of years of spending big and failing. I'm sure he'd be the number one target and has a CV on a different level to Comolli.

Good call. Pitarch is a proper DoF. However, I can't imagine Atletico Madrid would want to let him go and, even if they did, they'd doubtless request a King's Ransom.

And who knows if Pitarch wants to leave Spain? Etc.

If Comolli does get sacked or demoted, I can see us spending the entire season with a Chief Scout & Head of Academy. And no Director of Football....

 

[rez9000]

Oh please, please, PLEASE let this be true!!! Get rid of him!!! I've said it time and again that Comolli is no good. Chuck him out on his ear, if for no other reason than payback for the humiliation heaped on BMJ, using him as a scapegoat to cover his own ineptitude.

 

[fazza]

Ramos or Keegan, not really that difficult to decide really is it. A no hoper of a manager or a winner.

 

[joey55]

Good call. Pitarch is a proper DoF. However, I can't imagine Atletico Madrid would want to let him go and, even if they did, they'd doubtless request a King's Ransom.

And who knows if Pitarch wants to leave Spain? Etc.

If Comolli does get sacked or demoted, I can see us spending the entire season with a Chief Scout & Head of Academy. And no Director of Football....

Given the cost of sacking Jol, it may be an expense too far to pay up Comolli's contract and then have Pitarch released from his. Though at a time when we are seeing the Prem becoming more technical and thus more South Americans, it would be brilliant to see the man who brought over Aimar and Aguero running things for us. Especially given how partial Juande is to the odd top class South American.

 

[sloth]

Rather than piss off any new club why not continue pissing off the same club?

I say lets get Monchi.

 

[OneTrueSpur]

From Johnnydx85 on COYS :



Veloso? Not seen him at all, but by all accounts he would be great for us.

:clap:

:duh:

 

[joey55]

Rather than piss off any new club why not continue pissing off the same club we already have.

I say lets get Monchi.

I think he'd be most people's choice, but there is little chance of him and Ramos working together again.

 

[yanno]

Given the cost of sacking Jol, it may be an expense too far to pay up Comolli's contract and then have Pitarch released from his. Though at a time when we are seeing the Prem becoming more technical and thus more South Americans, it would be brilliant to see the man who brought over Aimar and Aguero running things for us. Especially given how partial Juande is to the odd top class South American.

Maybe - but Arnesen was reputed to have the very best scouts in Brazil, and rather than getting a 17-year-old Ronaldo, we ended up with Rodrigo Defendi. And we were very close to landing Diego as a 17-year-old under Hoddle, before Arnesen.

Kun Aguero cost Euros 15 million as a 17-year-old, so he was hardly unknown. From a DoF perspective, I'm actually more impressed by Barca signing Messi as a 13-year-old.

To make my position clear, if Comolli goes, I'd be very happy for us not to have a DoF. A world class Chief Scout and a world class Academy Director, to work with our world class Coach, would be fine by me.

 

[joey55]

Maybe - but Arnesen was reputed to have the very best scouts in Brazil, and rather than getting a 17-year-old Ronaldo, we ended up with Rodrigo Defendi. And we were very close to landing Diego as a 17-year-old under Hoddle, before Arnesen.

Kun Aguero cost Euros 15 million as a 17-year-old, so he was hardly unknown. From a DoF perspective, I'm actually more impressed by Barca signing Messi as a 13-year-old.

To make my position clear, if Comolli goes, I'd be very happy for us not to have a DoF. A world class Chief Scout and a world class Academy Director, to work with our world class Coach, would be fine by me.

To be fair to him, I think when Arnesen left, he voiced part of the reason was his frustration at not being able to lure the best young players to WHL (a bullshit reason as he went for money, but what he was saying was almost certainly true). From what i've read Chelasea' youth team are improved and I think they recently made their first final in years, so he appears to be doing the business, though getting a player into their 1st team will be quite a task.

We've moved on a fair bit since hw was here and I'd say we are a far bigger draw now. I'd also be happy without the DofF, but even if we don't have one in the more traditional sense, i suspect someone at the club will be given that title. Be it the Chief Scout or Academy Director. I don't know the man, but I just get the feeling Levy would hate to concede that the experiment has failed (I personally don't think it has and has been beneficial), especially after all the contoversy it caused in the media at the time with virtually every pundit and journo condeming it.

 

[DoublePivot]

Actually Messi wasn't completely "discovered". Barca were just the ones who came in for his hormone treatment due to his size.

 

[yanno]

To be fair to him, I think when Arnesen left, he voiced part of the reason was his frustration at not being able to lure the best young players to WHL (a bullshit reason as he went for money, but what he was saying was almost certainly true). We've moved on a fair bit since then and I'd say we are a far bigger draw now. I'd also be happy without the DofF, but even if we don't have one in the more traditional sense, i suspect someone at the club will be given that title. Be it the Chief Scout or Academy Director. I don't know the man, but I just get the feeling Levy would hate to concede that the experiment has failed (I personally don't think it has and has been beneficial), especially after all the contoversy it caused in the media at the time with virtually every pundit and journo condeming it.

All fair enough.

The problem with a new DoF is the reporting lines though.

If Levy still wants the Spurs Coach to report to the Director of Football, then - to use a ridiculous example - that DoF cannot be Dennis Wise. Because Ramos would not respect Wise enough to report to him.

So, we either appoint a world class and highly experienced DoF who Juande will respect - which will be both very difficult and very expensive. Or we do without a DoF for the time being...

PS Guardiola is the new coach of Barca. I've just posted the link in General Football.

 

[yanno]

Actually Messi wasn't completely "discovered". Barca were just the ones who came in for his hormone treatment due to his size.

True. And the economic crisis in Argentina due to the raping and looting of that country by the likes of Jeb Bush, Enron and Citibank.

However, signing Messi for the cost of relocating his family to Barcelona, and a course of growth hormone injections, is pretty good business in anyone's books...

 

[striebs]

Rather than piss off any new club why not continue pissing off the same club?

I say lets get Monchi.

I don't think anyone is seriously claiming that Comolli performed his job satisfactorily last Summer transfer window .

Just after Ramosgate Jol joked that he thought the directors were over in Seville trying to recruit Comolli's replacement .

Unless Ramos expressed a dislike of working with Monchi , it's a pretty good bet that Levy has sounded Monchi out by now , quite probably before Ramosgate .

Levy has replaced a good and successful manager with what he perceives to be a better one .

It would be disappointing if he was not looking for an opportunity to upgrade a poor performing DOF .

 

[Steady_nethercott]

whats this guys track record on COYS? anyone know?

 

[xtrac]

The opening thread title says

DC to be sacked? from COYS

Should it not read Dc To Be Banned from COYS, hardly surprising, they ban someone every week from what i hear:grin:

Sorry couldnt resist.

 

[Adam]

Given the cost of sacking Jol, it may be an expense too far to pay up Comolli's contract and then have Pitarch released from his. Though at a time when we are seeing the Prem becoming more technical and thus more South Americans, it would be brilliant to see the man who brought over Aimar and Aguero running things for us. Especially given how partial Juande is to the odd top class South American.

The only problem with that plan is British football's ridiculous work permit system we have with young South Americans-cant really think of any South Americans whose first move has been to England and not Arsenal who seem to have had a loop hole to the system as always!

I think people are harsh on Comolli to be honest. We do have to make our minds up if the signings are the managers or the DOF's because if they are Comolli's then he obviously didnt have the best of summers but he had a great January, or you can say he had no impact on either. I would never say that i'm ITK but i do know the agent of a few of the Spurs players and he is regularly in contact with DC (i have actually been at their house when DC has been over) and as far as ive been told, he system on transfers hasnt really changed, therefore i think it is harsh to put so much blame on Comolli when he has signed a fair few good players for the first team and a number of excellent prospects currently playing in the reseves or U18's.

 

[gibbs131]

ray:

 

[nicdic]

Monchi and Ramos don't get on.

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

DC and DL are very close.

DC recommended and secured the appointment of his choce of coach - JR.

DC is regarded as one of the top 5 DoFs in the world, along with the likes of Arnesen, Monchi, Klaus Allofs, Martin van Geel and Pantaleo Corvino.

There's no chance whatsoever of him being sacked - this is just wishful thinking by the irrational Comolli haters out there.