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Dele Alli at Everton

UncleBuck

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My worry for him is that he had so much so young that nothing will motivate him. Not just in football but in life.

I don't know how he is going to deal with once being the wonderboy to becoming a washed up millionaire.

Social media wont help either because it'll constantly remind him of that fact.

I agree wirh you @agrdavidsfan I hope Tottenham can find a way to help him. Not necessarily revive his career but help him move forward.
Absolutely crazy to think he’s only just turned 26, not even prime age yet.
Yup, too much too young, not just from a financial perspective but the adulation that came with it, from the five year old supporter with Dele on his shirt, the commentators waxing lyrical and the outside of football deals and circles he was mixing in.
I think, and quite a few of us have also said this before, it all started with the groin and hammy injuries.
Rushed back because we needed him and he never looked the same player and hasn’t since.
Changes in personnel, managers and formations just meant he never played in the role he had previously flourished in.
Reading a previous comment though it’s just mental to think he’s on somewhere in the region of £150k a week at the moment though with Everton, who on earth agreed to that?
As you said what motivation is there for him, he’s already done so much and got so much all by the age of 26.
 

sidford

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I completely get the sentiment behind bringing him back within the fold but that's only an option if / when he is ready for that. If he isn't ready to dump the clinger ons, stop doing dumb shit like gas etc If he isn't at that stage then he shouldn't be let anywhere near the club especially youth team players

Fingers crossed he can turn shit around and get a championship club next season who can help him get career on track. Be a massive waste no one getting to appreciate his talent again
 

kmk

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Absolutely crazy to think he’s only just turned 26, not even prime age yet.
Yup, too much too young, not just from a financial perspective but the adulation that came with it, from the five year old supporter with Dele on his shirt, the commentators waxing lyrical and the outside of football deals and circles he was mixing in.
I think, and quite a few of us have also said this before, it all started with the groin and hammy injuries.
Rushed back because we needed him and he never looked the same player and hasn’t since.

Changes in personnel, managers and formations just meant he never played in the role he had previously flourished in.
Reading a previous comment though it’s just mental to think he’s on somewhere in the region of £150k a week at the moment though with Everton, who on earth agreed to that?
As you said what motivation is there for him, he’s already done so much and got so much all by the age of 26.

These aren't even career threatening injuries. If his downward spiral started then, it shows that he has a fragile mentality which could be a consequence of his upbringing.

He probably needs a mentor and possibly a psychiatrist to help him. His agent should be trying to get him help.
 

UncleBuck

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These aren't even career threatening injuries. If his downward spiral started then, it shows that he has a fragile mentality which could be a consequence of his upbringing.

He probably needs a mentor and possibly a psychiatrist to help him. His agent should be trying to get him help.
Totally agree, what he needs is an old school mentor that is going to lay it on the line for him and not listen to the circus that is bleeding him dry of everything.
When he came back from injury everyone said he wasn’t fit and questioned whether he was still carrying an injury, unfortunately that narrative never disappeared and just led into all the other changes at the club with personnel, management and tactics which made him redundant as his role disappeared.
 

dontcallme

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I think it's very possible that he fell out of love with football.

He's earnt the money and has other interests including gaming, clothes company etc and he just doesn't seem determined enough to make a success of his football career.

I think there are a lot of other issues too though.
 

arnoldlayne

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These aren't even career threatening injuries. If his downward spiral started then, it shows that he has a fragile mentality which could be a consequence of his upbringing.

He probably needs a mentor and possibly a psychiatrist to help him. His agent should be trying to get him help.
Really not sure what you mean by fragile mentality?

He must have had incredible personal mental strength to get to the point of being a Premier League footballer and play for England - to compete and succeed in becoming a professional footballer which has a huge attrition rate for those who try to become professional footballers.

Bring the right pressures to bear and we are all susceptible to the downfall he is now experiencing, no matter how successful we are.
 

h2005

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I’d say he’s not that arsed. A bit of a Assou-Ekkoto. Pity to see the talent being wasted but he’s probably happy enough where he is in life.
 

kmk

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Really not sure what you mean by fragile mentality?

He must have had incredible personal mental strength to get to the point of being a Premier League footballer and play for England - to compete and succeed in becoming a professional footballer which has a huge attrition rate for those who try to become professional footballers.


Bring the right pressures to bear and we are all susceptible to the downfall he is now experiencing, no matter how successful we are.
I'm talking about resilience to overcome adversity.

His initial success could have been down to his talent, athleticism and work ethic.

However, he seems to have given into other temptations and lost his motivation for football.
 

arnoldlayne

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I'm talking about resilience to overcome adversity.

His initial success could have been down to his talent, athleticism and work ethic.

However, he seems to have given into other temptations and lost his motivation for football.
You think he did not have the resilience to overcome adversity? Do you think his path to the successful career he initially had was a bed of roses? You think resilience is not needed to funnel talent, maintain athleticism and have an actual work ethic? Not to mention the unstable home environment and background he had to drag himself out of

Good grief

This is going the way of many other talented footballers faced with overwhelming and multiple pressures and distractions - the same that can happen to many successful and unsuccessful people in life

I really hope that he gets the support he needs
 

Snarfalicious

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It’s a truly sad situation. And I just think back to how much unnecessary shit he got back in the day for how he played. Felt like when that stuff started to become more of the norm, he may have had a hard time and never was the same. You would get the occasional glimpse of the player we knew, but it was always fleeting. It’s been obvious something was wrong for awhile, just have to hope Dele will seek the positive support he needs.
 

RuskyM

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He's getting a lot of birthday love today from the likes of Grealish and Chilwell, so he's clearly still popular. He's really not done anything *wrong*. Given that there's literal assaulters currently playing every week, the hate he gets is absurd. Let him live.

But I agree if he needs help, we should provide it. He's one of us. Always will be.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Clearly he has a lot of pain inside him he sounds heart broken. Hope he finds peace, football is nothing if your not mentally in a good place
 

Dakes

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Bit of perspective when we’re slating players, there’s always more going on.

I will definitely watch this. His slump was definitely not about his ability, that much was clear to most. I hope he goes on to a path of recovery so that he has joy in his life, even if he never steps on to a football pitch again.
 
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