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Dele Alli at Everton

funkycoldmedina

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I've just watched the full interview. What an incredibly brave and articulate interview he gave and Neville's questions and tone were perfect.
I always felt so sad about where his career went and knew there must be more to it than just the lazy tropes everyone threw his way but this stuff beggars belief. His adoptive family sound amazing and so glad people like Poch, Eric and Harry have had his back.
Also f@#£ the tabloids!!!
 

Timbo Tottenham

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It does make you think that he’s only opened up publicly at this point to get ahead of the press and he even admits that it’s sooner than he wanted it to be. What about the amount of footballers, celebs and people in general, who go through similar experiences and extensive therapy and rehab without ever letting a wider audience know about it.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Seeing some of the player reactions today, and I am reminded of how much more of a "family" the team were back in the peak Poch era.

We definitely lost a bit of that feel-good aura from the Mourinho-era through the Conte-era.

I can sense that Ange will be bringing it back. His talk about the importance of everyone respecting each other reminds me of Poch's rules of making sure players greeted everyone when they came in every day.
 

YB123

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The good news for Dele is that he probably couldnt have a better manager for his circumstances right now than Sean Dyche.

Listen to Keith Treacy talk about how Dyche helped him personally with his addictions and problems. Think Joey Barton and others have spoke similar about him aswell. Comes across as a top bloke Dyche and it sounds like he's been really good with Dele so far form the interview.
 

wrd

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I know a few people have said about being guilty for being critical of dele footballing wise when it turns out he had all this going on. I just wanna say that feeling shame and guilt about actions is not a pre-requisite for change. We've been taught this language of shame/guilt and end up being so harsh on ourselves and inflict so much pain through internal criticism, this is what prevents us from progressing. I won't rant on this point too much on what has caused this :LOL: but negative emotions have become synonymous with feeling bad about ourselves and I think it's better if we realise that negative emotions are simply meant to get us to avoid actions in the future, there's no need to feel bad in order to do that, they're actually meant to keep us safe.

Sometimes we focus on the surface level details and we don't consider the rest, that's normal, dele opening up has given us some awareness and we can take that forward without beating ourselves up over it. I actually think not judging ourselves too harshly probably makes it more likely we do take it forward.
 

Joe Bjorn Hotspur

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It’s been a tough day concentrating on the usual mundane work stuff I do after watching Deli’s interview. The majority of us as a fan base were so frustrated and confused for him when his form dropped off. Also, his mannerisms etc were clearly showing that the guy wasn’t well.

Football is a fickle business especially when looking at the grief players (Emerson, Dier, Winks & Sanchez to name a few) get from the stands & social media. I hope that collectively we put things into perspective in our own fan base both at the ground and online. We all shouldn’t want to witness or participate in the uncomfortable scenes like last season at the ground which I witnessed with Sanchez & Emerson.

We will get our identity back, of free flowing, front foot attacking football and I know positivity like we had with Poch will return this season. That message of respect one another from Ange is so apt: I just hope our fans have the patience.
 

pedrodelawasp

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An emotional watch. Really have to applaud Dele both for the interview itself, for the strength of character to do it and to speak so honestly and with great clarity but also for the resilience to go through so much and to still be here.

Neville, I have to say, did a very, very good job as an interviewer so hats off to him too.
 

Colonel_Klinck

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Looking at some other fans forums he seems to be getting lots of sympathy and good wishes. Even on Arsenal Mania its all very positive.
 

dude573

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I hope we blare out his song a few times during the upcoming season. Maybe the friendly against Shakhtar depending on attendance.
 

Trix

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Looking at some other fans forums he seems to be getting lots of sympathy and good wishes. Even on Arsenal Mania its all very positive.
Lets be honest you've got to be special kind of bellend not to feel sympathy for someone who has gone through all that as a child. Heck I'd feel sorry for Putin if I was told all that had of happened to him as a kid, and he's literally murdering thousands.
 
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RuskyM

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I think something needs to be done regarding the damage that fucking pointless puff piece of an amazon documentary did to the club and to the individuals involved. I think the sheer scale of what it cost us is fucking seismic, whoever organised that needs to take responsibility as they failed to give their staff the work environment they needed.
I mean, didn't we install cameras without Pochettino's approval? And then we had people saying "look at the documentary!" as if it wasn't a clear puff piece. An incredible amount of damage done - you had people making sincere judgements of Steve Hitchen based on a few comments he made. What did we actually gain out of it?

I know he won't because he's a coward that's paid to be controversial, but it'd be nice if Rory Jennings and TalkSPORT who were using Dele's face and slandering him *two days ago* actually showed some remorse.
 

SamR

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It does make you think that he’s only opened up publicly at this point to get ahead of the press and he even admits that it’s sooner than he wanted it to be. What about the amount of footballers, celebs and people in general, who go through similar experiences and extensive therapy and rehab without ever letting a wider audience know about it.

My girlfriend’s in the public eye and it’s been very alarming to see how people behave on social media towards her and us. There are websites with the purpose to slag off celebrities & those in the public eye. I’m reasonably thick skinned yet still read some comments that make me want to throttle people. I’ve become a lot more reserved and introvert and 2nd guess myself in the way I act as a result of it all.

She has had a lot of therapy over the years, which tbh, people don’t really take into consideration when they post their vile insults, much of which are personal attacks rather than objective opinions.

I feel for Dele and admire the way he has put himself out there and taken control of his narrative. I hope he gets back to his best and enjoys his life ahead.
 

RuskyM

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My girlfriend’s in the public eye and it’s been very alarming to see how people behave on social media towards her and us. There are websites with the purpose to slag off celebrities & those in the public eye. I’m reasonably thick skinned yet still read some comments that make me want to throttle people. I’ve become a lot more reserved and introvert and 2nd guess myself in the way I act as a result of it all.

She has had a lot of therapy over the years, which tbh, people don’t really take into consideration when they post they vile insults, much of which are personal attacks rather than objective opinions.

I feel for Dele and admire the way he has put himself out there and taken control of his narrative. I hope he gets back to his best and enjoys his life ahead.
I know people that have threads on those gossip forums where their entire life is ripped to shreds by strangers. Every few pages, you'll have someone saying "they're posting about their struggles, maybe we should be kind" and then a few posts later it'll be the same old shit. And you want to ignore it but thanks to the internet, people that hate us can tell us everything they think is wrong with us whenever they like, and it goes straight to our phone for us to read. As we've seen through people like Musk and Trump, there's no amount of power or money that stops that from affecting you. And those two have at least done bad things - all Dele did was annoy people who then tore him and his life apart.

Social media is a disease. We shouldn't have to bare our souls to the world to be respected.
 

RJR1949

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My heart breaks for Dele.

He used to play with such joy and to such great effect.

Let’s hope he can defeat his demons, find pleasure in life and play football with passion and success (but not against us).
 

Thenewcat

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Lets be honest you've got to be special king of bellend not to feel sympathy for someone who has gone through all that as a child. Heck I'd feel sorry for Putin if I was told all that had of happened to him as a kid, and he's literally murdering thousands.
Assume this is a typo, but it still works…
 

spursfan77

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The Athletic did an investigation 2 years ago into sleeping pills. Seems like it is a massive problem in the game. Makes me wonder what else is being hidden. Steroids? Class A drugs?


Here, The Athletic can reveal:

  • Players across every level of the professional game are using lorazepam, temazepam and diazepam; prescription-based medications that are habit-forming and are associated with dementia
  • Some players have ignored the advice of their club doctors and have proceeded to medicate unsupervised
  • Some players feel pressurised into using them due to the relentless nature of football’s schedule
  • They have been used to treat anxiety, as well as insomnia related to the increasing number of night games and long-distance travel
  • Players are widely unaware of the dangers of sedatives due to a lack of education in relation to their perils
  • At least one elite footballer at a top Premier League club has been left out of fixtures because of his dependency
 

bomberH

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Just watched it.

I was nervous for Dele but by the end of it I was genuinely proud of him. He articulated himself way better than I thought he might and everything he said had meaning. It was a great interview and Neville did his part too.

Would like nothing more than for Dele to rip it up for Everton this season and get back to something like his best. That will be a mammoth task though. He does look genuinely happier and more comfortable than he has in years. The therapy seems to have done him wonders. Good on him.

Looking forward to welcoming him back when we play Everton.
 
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