Do we need to persist with the DOF system any further to prove the experiment is a failure ?

[striebs]

There is a joke about an alcoholic who has lost his job , his house , his family - but is going to give it one more chance .

This kind of epitomises Levy's fatal attraction to exotic latins and his dogmatic refusal to depart from a D.O.F. structure which could have come from a fresh out of university management consultant who was learning on the job .

Spurs have gone down hill since Harry and the Bale money has been wasted to no avail .

A few more bad results and the board will start the blame-game all over again by undermining the manager and looking for his replacement but the D.O.F. will probably be safe . Rinse and repeat .

I just can't see Danny cutting his losses by ditching his DOF dogma .

 

[thinktank]

There is a joke about an alcoholic who has lost his job , his house , his family - but is going to give it one more chance .

This kind of epitomises Levy's fatal attraction to exotic latins and his dogmatic refusal to depart from a D.O.F. structure which could have come from a fresh out of university management consultant who was learning on the job .

Spurs have gone down hill since Harry and the Bale money has been wasted to no avail .

A few more bad results and the board will start the blame-game all over again by undermining the manager and looking for his replacement but the D.O.F. will probably be safe . Rinse and repeat .

I just can't see Danny cutting his losses by ditching his DOF dogma .

Love that.

Think the DOF might be ok under this manager though, going forward.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

There hasn't been enough stability at the club to really see what Baldini can do. To many changes in managment with each one having their own philosophy. It wouldn't be until next summer that we would really see what he can bring to the team.

 

[absolute bobbins]

There is a joke about an alcoholic who has lost his job , his house , his family - but is going to give it one more chance .

This kind of epitomises Levy's fatal attraction to exotic latins and his dogmatic refusal to depart from a D.O.F. structure which could have come from a fresh out of university management consultant who was learning on the job .

Spurs have gone down hill since Harry and the Bale money has been wasted to no avail .

A few more bad results and the board will start the blame-game all over again by undermining the manager and looking for his replacement but the D.O.F. will probably be safe . Rinse and repeat .

I just can't see Danny cutting his losses by ditching his DOF dogma .

Why do you give Harry a free pass? Modric, VdV and Bale yet he did...fuck all.

It's not DOF dogma, there is a consensus that a DOF model is the only way that a modern football club can operate. Ajax, Barça, Real, Bayern, Porto, Roma, City all use Directors of Football and all have an honours list that we'd kill for.

Do I need to point out that Pochettino has NEVER been a manager?

 

[striebs]

Love that.

Think the DOF might be ok under this manager though, going forward.

Thinktank ,

The best rendition was by "The unknown comic" who appeared on American TV in the 80's 90's wearing a brown paper bag over his head with cutouts for the eyes and mouth . Expect you can find it somewhere online .

 

[Kiedis]

Speaking of jokes; have you heard about the two fags who mistook wallpaper glue for lubricant?

- Their wallpaper fell down.

Hah.

 

[jezz]

Sorry mate.
This thread is wrong.

 

[JerryGarcia]

It's easy to blame Baldini when we don't really see what his day to day job involves. Personally I don't have a problem with the DOF system but I'd like to see it bear fruit over the next few seasons.

Arnesen and Comolli's signings didn't all click straight away either.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/...e-legacy-of-frank-arnesen-and-damien-comolli/

That article is interesting, things have gone wrong in recent seasons but is it really the DOF system that's to blame? It seems like it might just be something which is easy to blame but that in the long run could serve us well.

 

[beats1]

Do people still think that Baldini scouts and buys the players

Also under Harry weren't exactly great either have we forgotten the likes of Saha and Nelson

 

[Bobbins]

There is a joke about an alcoholic who has lost his job , his house , his family - but is going to give it one more chance .

This kind of epitomises Levy's fatal attraction to exotic latins and his dogmatic refusal to depart from a D.O.F. structure which could have come from a fresh out of university management consultant who was learning on the job .

Spurs have gone down hill since Harry and the Bale money has been wasted to no avail .

A few more bad results and the board will start the blame-game all over again by undermining the manager and looking for his replacement but the D.O.F. will probably be safe . Rinse and repeat .

I just can't see Danny cutting his losses by ditching his DOF dogma .

Don't know why you got a Spam rating for this, since it isn't Spam.

I don't agree - I haven't got a problem with the DoF system and it's a system Poch wants to work under. Having Broomfield back as head scout will help as well.

Baldini's job is also less about identifying the next Bale and more about negotiating and closing deals, freeing Levy up from doing absolutely everything himself. I'm pretty sure his role is much wider than that as well and he's probably very busy all the time doing lots of stuff most of us would probably never even consider.

Harry barely bought anyone of note without a DoF - the major coup was VDV, and that was a Levy special.

I'm fine with a DoF system - almost all the big clubs work that way now, and it avoids the expensive squad clearouts every time there's a change in head coach (which for us would be rather expensive). Levy loves it because it's the prime engine behind the Player Trading Exchange system he's got going on.

 

[Martinhotspur]

Did the last Dof not buy Bale and Modric

 

[rabbikeane]

The great part of Harry's side was built by a DoF (with lot of personal intervention from Levy as well)

A manager would have the same struggles as a DoF when signing players,
our limited resources and lack of regular Champions League football.

If Pochettino was a manager, it wouldn't mean that he'd land Schneiderlin this summer.
Cause he'd still have the same budget that our DoF had to work with.

Seems people need a scapegoat, once upon a time it was claimed that Chris Hughton sitting on our bench with his clip board was a reason for our struggles.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Nothing is black and white....DOF works if you marry the right manager with the right DOF, otherwise it can be a complete disaster.

It only works when the DOF duties are to find and purchase new young talent for the future,and to buy first team players that are identified by the manager who has the last word.

 

[Jimbo78]

Aslong as there is communication with the manager and a clear strategy with good global scouting I havent got a problem with it there is no reason why it shouldnt work.

The issue I have is the calibre of players we have signed on big fees who are quite clearly not good enough or suitable for this league.

When we signed the likes of Carrick, Defoe, Dawson, Reid, Lennon, Huddlestone, Bale etc we seemed to have a clear strategy of signing young british talent. Of course some made it more than others. BAle > Reid for example. But I think overall this period of the club proved to be very fruitful in many ways.

Not sure why we seem to of binned this strategy all together.

 

[eddiebailey]

The continuity argument for a DoF is nonsense, any coach who comes in will want his own players who fit his preferred style.

But the bottomline is that in today's game the coach does not have the time to micromanage transfer policy and the sums of money involved are too astronomical for the coach to be trusted with the transfer budget.

The best model would probably be a head scout recommending players to the coach and the coach recommending targets and alternatives to the board, with a closer on the board then pursuing the target with a second target lined up if it becomes too difficult and/or expensive.

I do not think we should be in a position where the board are recommending players to the coach, which seems to be where we are now.

 

[eddiebailey]

Did the last Dof not buy Bale and Modric

Along with Rocha, Zokora, Tarabt, Giovanni, Sanchez, Gilberto, Bostock, Parrett, Bentley, Bent, Gomes, Pavyluchenko and Frazier Campbell (on loan, when he struck out on a permanent signing.

Even with Bale, the manager asked for an experienced winger and got a 17 year old leftback. Similalry Boateng, Assou-Ekottu and Kaboul came good eventually - if not necessarily for us - but they were not the Premiershipready players the manager was crying out for at the time.

 

[jezz]

Along with Rocha, Zokora, Tarabt, Giovanni, Sanchez, Gilberto, Bostock, Parrett, Bentley, Bent, Gomes, Pavyluchenko and Frazier Campbell (on loan, when he struck out on a permanent signing.

Even with Bale, the manager asked for an experienced winger and got a 17 year old leftback. Similalry Boateng, Assou-Ekottu and Kaboul came good eventually - if not necessarily for us - but they were not the Premiershipready players the manager was crying out for at the time.

Modric Berbatov, VDV Crouch Defoe Verts.
This argument goes both ways.
Some work some don't.
No one has a crystal ball.

 

[eddiebailey]

Modric Berbatov, VDV Crouch Defoe Verts.
This argument goes both ways.
Some work some don't.
No one has a crystal ball.

Eh? We did not have a DoF when VdV, Crocuh, Defoe or Verts were signed, and Berba while technically on Comolli's watch had already been lined up by Jol.

 

[jezz]

Eh? We did not have a DoF when VdV, Crocuh, Defoe or Verts were signed, and Berba while technically on Comolli's watch had already been lined up by Jol.

I thought Eales was a dof for us from 2010?
So who signed these player's?

 

[Time for Heroes]

I thought Eales was a dof for us from 2010?
So who signed these player's?

I thought Eales was an admin guy.