Does anyone still rate Walker?

[Spurs_Bear]

So you agree with every managers decisions? Its fact he came in to replace Corluka, Doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. Managers (particliuary Spurs managers) make mistakes.

Would also throw a fully fit Kaboul in there as a better option than Walker. Not now maybe as sadly it seems his confidence and fitness has gone to bits.

Very sorry to hear that, it appears a bundled run and deflected cross in one game of a season (albeit an important one) somewhat muddies the waters a bit.

 

[SpursManChris]

I've always thought he was poor. No footballing brain. Poor positioning, no end product when going forward. IMO just a very poor footballer. An athlete yes but never should be a footballer. IMO it amazes me he plays professionally tbh.

Know I'm in the minority and for some reason he is rated by a lot of spurs fans and even recently been linked to Man U for £20m!! So maybe it's just be but I really think he's crap after today's appalling performance I was wondering if anyone actually still rates him?!

Are you referring to his entire Spurs career or just post injury? If it's his entire career, then I'm not sure why you're not making your point clear to those who are saying, "he's just come back from injury." It should be a pretty easy response.

 

[Greenspur]

Yeah, yeah, we all had trials.

I didn't. I only had tribulations.

 

[Jimbo78]

Are you referring to his entire Spurs career or just post injury? If it's his entire career, then I'm not sure why you're not making your point clear to those who are saying, "he's just come back from injury." It should be a pretty easy response.

Yeah I think hes always been a very poor footballer for the reasons I have given. I see the same calibre of player before and after his injury. No better or worse just. He is what he is IMO. Not very good.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

He's almost guaranteed to go to PSG permanently at the end of the season I thought. They couldn't buy him because of FFP.

You may be right.

 

[SlunkSoma]

His footballing brain has never been the best, with Lennon he knew what he would do but Lamela (or another inverted winger) is too hard to read. Walker hasn't the nouse to react accordingly yet.

 

[yido_number1]

So you agree with every managers decisions? Its fact he came in to replace Corluka, Doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. Managers (particliuary Spurs managers) make mistakes.

Would also throw a fully fit Kaboul in there as a better option than Walker. Not now maybe as sadly it seems his confidence and fitness has gone to bits.

Now you're just talking shit. Did a serious injury to your knee prevent you from having a glorious playing career? It wouldn't surprise me the amount your knee seriously jerks after every game?!!

 

[Capocrimini]

Who would replace Walker? Yedlins not proven yet, and to be fair to Walker he has recently returned from injury.

I personally like Walker, his athleticism and heart are hard to find, and given some serious time with Poch his tactical game will I hope improve.

 

[adamsky]

I think people get more frustrated with Walker than other players because he is such a good athlete that and we can see what he should be able to do. The truth is, if he was as good as we want him to be with the final ball he most likely wouldn't be playing for Spurs as he would be the Dani Alves replacement. We should accept his limitations as I still believe he is the best rightback we have had since Carr snd hope he continues to improve and develop into an even better player.

Won't stop me calling him a dumb **** next time his cross doesn't beat the first man, but that is just heat of the moment frustration. Most clubs would take him off us if we wanted to get rid.

 

[mckenz]

Yeah I think hes always been a very poor footballer for the reasons I have given. I see the same calibre of player before and after his injury. No better or worse just. He is what he is IMO. Not very good.

You used to head the ball a lot right? those old heavy mitres......could explain a few things

 

[Spursidol]

I think the point is, those others aren't really part of the first team now, Walker is, and therefore, if you deem him, as some do, a liability or just not good enough, then his replacement can be deemed more urgent than those others.

Not sure this holds true.

At striker we have Kane - and two who are on the list to dispose of. We cannot play Kane evey game mid wek and weekends so when he doesn't play we have no decent striker. And our season is f****d if he gets injured

We cannot rotate our AM's so if tired or out of form.....so see Kane above for the consequences

And at CM, do we have much alternative to Mason and Bentaleb as Stambouli is well behind..... so see above for consequences

Truth is that its a squad game and without alternatives to the 6 I've listed we have big problems.

Love him or hate him, Walker is not an immediate problem.

 

[Good Doctor M]

This thread doesn't need to exist.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Not sure this holds true.

At striker we have Kane - and two who are on the list to dispose of. We cannot play Kane evey game mid wek and weekends so when he doesn't play we have no decent striker. And our season is f****d if he gets injured

We cannot rotate our AM's so if tired or out of form.....so see Kane above for the consequences

And at CM, do we have much alternative to Mason and Bentaleb as Stambouli is well behind..... so see above for consequences

Truth is that its a squad game and without alternatives to the 6 I've listed we have big problems.

Love him or hate him, Walker is not an immediate problem.

Not sure I follow the logic of that. The point is that those other positions have decent first choices, at RB we don't (in some opinions) therefore before we even begin to worry about the rotation we need to address the first choice. We have a decent options in the positions you quote, but a rb who is (again in some opinions) not a very good defender and contributes very title of quality going forward.

I think the full backs are vital positions, especially for any system that prefers inverted attackers. Therefore I would say a RB who can defend and attack is one of the most pressing needs we have.

Walker's energy does have a positive impact on the way we play, his willingness and ability to get up and down the pitch and offer an outlet is good, the problem is he continually wastes the positions. We need someone who when they get there, can actually deliver something with a little more wit and composure. Get their head up and pick out a deliberate target, not, as we saw sunday, just blast the ball vaguely or without care.

The problem I accept is that there aren't loads of them out there and the best ones soon get snapped up. Very disappointing that (and lets not get into the who's at fault again) Smith was allowed to go as he does have good composure when he gets forward.

 

[Spursidol]

Not sure I follow the logic of that. The point is that those other positions have decent first choices, at RB we don't (in some opinions) therefore before we even begin to worry about the rotation we need to address the first choice. We have a decent options in the positions you quote, but a rb who is (again in some opinions) not a very good defender and contributes very title of quality going forward.

I think the full backs are vital positions, especially for any system that prefers inverted attackers. Therefore I would say a RB who can defend and attack is one of the most pressing needs we have.

Walker's energy does have a positive impact on the way we play, his willingness and ability to get up and down the pitch and offer an outlet is good, the problem is he continually wastes the positions. We need someone who when they get there, can actually deliver something with a little more wit and composure. Get their head up and pick out a deliberate target, not, as we saw sunday, just blast the ball vaguely or without care.

The problem I accept is that there aren't loads of them out there and the best ones soon get snapped up. Very disappointing that (and lets not get into the who's at fault again) Smith was allowed to go as he does have good composure when he gets forward.

Maybe we are talking at cross purposes, but to me its essential to have a goal scoring striker in all teams plus AM's to create/score.

Otherwise we are likely to get low score draws or lose.

So imo its essential (for example) to get in a second striker than replace a RB who (if you do not like him) is adequate, or (if you like him) is one of the best RB's in the PL.

Yes FB's are important positions (and we missed Walker earlier this season when we had Chirches and Dier covering for him) but less so than some of the other squad positions

 

[fortworthspur]

the interesting thing is Rose made a horrible gaffe costing us the second goal, raising his arm for an offsides decision completely oblivious to the man behind him. I think Rose is much better this year, but at the end of the season 2/3 of the people here would have shipped him out for free.

 

[JerryGarcia]

I don't want the club to make any decision on Walker untill next summer (2016) because he's just come back from injury and the rest of the squad took untill the new year to start showing real signs of promise. The same time frame happened to Poch's Southampton team as well and as he's getting over the injury on top of that, it would be the wrong time to sell. If he improves then we have a very good player on our hands. That said, if he doesn't improve in that time then we might need to replace him if we can find a better option.

 

[StartingPrice]

You've done it again. "Dear mods" won't get you anywhere. You need to tag them to get them to read your post. See what I was saying about that forum brain?

It was a joke SP. A bad joke maybe but that was all my sub 57 iq could come up with. Sorry it went over your head.

It's all good bro

Seriously, I got the joke and was having a bit of fun meeself...and then all sheeeeite hit the fan. One minute I'm all, like, heee heee heee, the next the thought police are out dishing dissing like murder raps in Albert Square. What the fahook? Anyone would think I was a dangerous psychopath with homicidal tendencies of rage tendencies (N.B. I reserve the right for this to be true in BC's case - obviously).

Now, why dontcha all jus' feck orf and leave us alone!!!

 

[Vwbottom]

Fucking hell, we've had worse, shall we stick Kaboul there for the rest of the season?

 

[Real_madyidd]

I still rate him. I am not willing to discuss it with anyone who doesn't as I can't be arsed, but I just wanted to register the fact that I rate him.

 

[fortworthspur]

I had to come back to this.

Since turning 19 he has pretty much been a nailed on starter, when healthy, at Sheffield Utd, Aston Villa, QPR and Spurs under various managers (4 at Spurs alone!) as well as PFA young player of the year in 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Walker

Its hard to believe we are having this discussion.