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Duarte Bernard

Syn_13

Fly On, Little Wing
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My impression is that Internacional aren't that reluctant to sell. I think the problem is him and his agent trying to hold out for a CL team or a PSG, Anzhi or a Monaco. I don't think he's all that fussed about coming to us, if he's going to come to us then it will be a deadline day deal IMO. I'm not sure we'll wait that long. Time to move on me thinks.

Can't help but feel you're right about that, he doesn't ever come out with any statements saying how he'd love to join us, just says that he's open to the idea. He'll want to join a team that can either raise his profile by paying a whopping fee for him along with big wages, or a team that can promise him titles. We can't do either, but what we can provide for him is a stepping stone into European football. He may see the latter as a good enough reason to join us ultimately. What I hope though is that, like Sandro, he'll grow to love the club whilst he is here, even if he does use us as a stepping stone.
 

Sum Monsterism

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in some circles, I know this because a rapper told me on youtube, "rooster" refers to a girl (or a guy I suppose) giving a gentleman relief with his/her mouth. In a dipping head motion similar to a rooster pecking for feed...

Rooster? Good Nozzle. It makes absolute sense.
 

Syn_13

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Actually Bernie is 3 cm taller than Lennon (y)

I've just googled them and it has Lennon as 170cm and Bernie as 163cm. Wikipedia then says Lennon is 165cm whilst Bernie is 164cm. Trasnfermarkt on the other hand has Lennon at 165cm as well but Bernie at 168cm.

Who do I trust? I don't know what is real anymore. :cry:
 

Sum Monsterism

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I've just googled them and it has Lennon as 170cm and Bernie as 163cm. Wikipedia then says Lennon is 165cm whilst Bernie is 164cm. Trasnfermarkt on the other hand has Lennon at 165cm as well but Bernie at 168cm.

Who do I trust? I don't know what is real anymore. :cry:

Lennon is 138cm.
 

vavaboom

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Please god, don't let nozzle become this years "Berry" or whatever the typo in relation to Vertonghen was last summer.
 

Parmigiano

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I think there is some truth on Bernard, got this from ESPN reporter in Brasil.

It says we use Damiao funds for Bernard.... Yippee!!!

José Roberto Malia@MaliaESPN
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Tottenham resolveu direcionar os US$ 20 milhões de Leandro Damião, do Saci colorado, para o garoto Bernard, do Galo bom de bico.

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What's interesting from that snippet is that it would lead you to, realistically imo, believe that there is a set budget/figure we are playing with...now not knowing what that figure is, nor can I be bothered converting dollars into euros or into pounds, I'm wondering whether in combining two pieces of itk/poster info we may get some direction of what is being planned.

There was a snippet yesterday from a (respected) poster from FTL, saying Pleat had said Villa was 'option B'....could it be Demaio was option A, and if to expensive, using the budget for him to get Villa and Bernard? Pretty sure Demaio was being quoted at 23m last season in pounds, well Villa is being touted at 10m to 12m pounds, and Bernard is being touted at roughly 10m pounds...might be the scenario....could also tie in with another itk which stated 2 big names and 4 quality youngsters (or something like that)..could Villa be one of those big names, and Bernard one of those 4 quality youngsters?

Any considered views ?
 

greaves

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I've just googled them and it has Lennon as 170cm and Bernie as 163cm. Wikipedia then says Lennon is 165cm whilst Bernie is 164cm. Trasnfermarkt on the other hand has Lennon at 165cm as well but Bernie at 168cm.

Who do I trust? I don't know what is real anymore. :cry:

Height varies according to location and rainfall.
 

Parkie

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What's interesting from that snippet is that it would lead you to, realistically imo, believe that there is a set budget/figure we are playing with...now not knowing what that figure is, nor can I be bothered converting dollars into euros or into pounds, I'm wondering whether in combining two pieces of itk/poster info we may get some direction of what is being planned.

There was a snippet yesterday from a (respected) poster from FTL, saying Pleat had said Villa was 'option B'....could it be Demaio was option A, and if to expensive, using the budget for him to get Villa and Bernard? Pretty sure Demaio was being quoted at 23m last season in pounds, well Villa is being touted at 10m to 12m pounds, and Bernard is being touted at roughly 10m pounds...might be the scenario....could also tie in with another itk which stated 2 big names and 4 quality youngsters (or something like that)..could Villa be one of those big names, and Bernard one of those 4 quality youngsters?

Any considered views ?
Considered...?
We have to factor in a lot of things:
1) all ITK and discussion is speculative - even a direct quote from Daniel Levy is unlikely to be 100% accurate as there are tactics in play in terms of negotiating and balancing that against keeping the fans happy.
2) there are negotiations taking place and all bids (even if we saw the figures) are tactical
3) we are dealing in a world where money is treated completely differently to the rest of the universe: bear in mind that clubs are getting a huge increase in TV revenues and having to balance this against billionaire investors and FFP

I think Levy is the kind of accountant who keeps an eye on the bottom line and would have sums of money in place for each category of player but he is also a shrewd negotiator who would be quite happy to let the world know that he can only afford one signing if it meant he could get two for less money.

So, taking into account the fact that we know nothing and cannot start to imagine the logic used in these scenarios, who knows! Sit back and enjoy the ride! I think there is a very good chance we will get half of the players we are serious about and then pick up an interesting bargain at the end of the window. I just hope that the players we get are right forAVB and exciting to watch. Bernard and Damiao seem to tick those boxes at the moment. If the budget/egos won't stretch to them, I am sure there are plan Bs around.
 
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