ENIC...

[dontcallme]

I'm former BSODL. I remember Levy taking over and saying we needed to improve our turnover if we wanted to compete at the top. He was completely right about that.

The low net spend but increase salaries worked very well. Without running our finances dry we became the 5th best in the country before City got their billions.

So the complaints about lack of spending and cheap shots about the cheese room don't really matter to me.

Levy is about longevity. The stadium took an age to complete but it was fantastic once done. So how he has failed to implement longevity on the football side is beyond me.

Arnesen, Comolli and Baldini all had some success in bringing quality players to us but there was no continuity. Under Poch we finally had a really solid first team. But we needed to keep spending. If we couldn't afford the Dybala's then fair enough. But we had enough money to bring in quality but our signings were either poor or non-existent.

If Levy wants to continue running the commercial side then fair enough. He does a great job of it. But clearly we need someone else to oversee the running of the football side.

 

[Danfunkel]

He ain’t wrong though...

 

[DiVaio]

He ain’t wrong though...

...and I bet he's not talking about ENIC there.

 

[Dillspur]

15m per year. This is all on Levy, only hope is that Jose wins something (LC or Europa) and they come to a "mutual agreement" he leaves with his record in tact and gets to mouth off about winning everywhere he's been with a slightly lower pay off.

And Levy can resign, he can stay on to sort out the rest of the development, but it's time to give it up.

 

[Drink!Drink!]

If we are stuck with a poor manager because we gave him a contract that means he is "too expensive" to get rid of - then I am sorry - but that is shocking management on Levy's part.

He took a huge gamble on Mourinho, but didn't give us an orderly exit clause in case - and this was highly likely - it went wrong.

 

[Dillspur]

If we are stuck with a poor manager because we gave him a contract that means he is "too expensive" to get rid of - then I am sorry - but that is shocking management on Levy's part.

He took a huge gamble on Mourinho, but didn't give us an orderly exit clause in case - and this was highly likely - it went wrong.

Everyone knew it would eventually go wrong, but he might win something along the way (and he still might). For Levy not to have an agreed release clause is frankly shocking and I'm starting to think Levy isn't as astute as he once was

 

[TheRevolution]

Backing the players over Poch was the biggest mistake Levy has ever made. It was clear as day he was turning shit into gold.

 

[Danfunkel]

Backing the players over Poch was the biggest mistake Levy has ever made. It was clear as day he was turning shit into gold.

The biggest mistake of recent times was not recruiting anyone for a whole season. Many of our players (especially the MF/CBS) have aged and deteriorated. Toby has lost it, Verts was losing it before he left, Sanchez, Dier, Aurier and Davies not good enough, and then there’s Sissoko....

I doubt even Poch would’ve gotten more gold out of that shit.

The whole organisation is to blame for this decline, not just the current manager.

Major reset, and reboot required.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

Everyone knew it would eventually go wrong, but he might win something along the way (and he still might). For Levy not to have an agreed release clause is frankly shocking and I'm starting to think Levy isn't as astute as he once was

Do we actually know the precise terms of the contract?

 

[LeParisien]

Do we actually know the precise terms of the contract?

Of course we do. It’s whatever SC decides it is to suit their agenda

 

[shelfboy68]

The biggest mistake of recent times was not recruiting anyone for a whole season. Many of our players (especially the MF/CBS) have aged and deteriorated. Toby has lost it, Verts was losing it before he left, Sanchez, Dier, Aurier and Davies not good enough, and then there’s Sissoko....

I doubt even Poch would’ve gotten more gold out of that shit.

The whole organisation is to blame for this decline, not just the current manager.

Major reset, and reboot required.

Does this include levy

 

[Danfunkel]

Does this include levy

Id like to see him take a back step away from the footballing side, for sure. We badly need a DOF and a proper structure to work with the coaches and scouts.

However, as a chairman of a football club (and a company) he’s one of, if not the best there is, and I’d still want him to be around.

A new owner with endless cash to buy Lewis out would be the dream, of course.

 

[SuperSpurs69]

Levy has done wonders on the business side of things and given us a stadium and training facilities that are envied.

Making fantastic profits and turnover etc is great but it ain't going to win us trophies if we're playing with a shoestring budget compared to our rivals.

Would love us to get a DoF in, or restructure the whole player recruitment side of things, and then for levy to slap his balls on the line and give Mourinho or whoever is manager the transfer budget to get the team exactly how they want it.

Now, I don't want us to go and bankrupt ourselves but we're either at that point, or close to it, where some big funds need to be allocated rather than doing things on the cheap or trying to get better than the previous years financial results.

 

[dontcallme]

Levy has done wonders on the business side of things and given us a stadium and training facilities that are envied.

Making fantastic profits and turnover etc is great but it ain't going to win us trophies if we're playing with a shoestring budget compared to our rivals.

Would love us to get a DoF in, or restructure the whole player recruitment side of things, and then for levy to slap his balls on the line and give Mourinho or whoever is manager the transfer budget to get the team exactly how they want it.

Now, I don't want us to go and bankrupt ourselves but we're either at that point, or close to it, where some big funds need to be allocated rather than doing things on the cheap or trying to get better than the previous years financial results.

I agree about the DOF or at least someone to oversee the football side of things.

But the shoestring budget isn't. Ndombele, Sissoko, Davinson, Lo Celso, Vinicius, Bergwijn, Sessegnon and others were all brought in for high fees plus Bale's salary and I provided our wages in an earlier post. We have paid big but without a plan in place this has led to our current uneven squad.

 

[SuperSpurs69]

I agree about the DOF or at least someone to oversee the football side of things.

But the shoestring budget isn't. Ndombele, Sissoko, Davinson, Lo Celso, Vinicius, Bergwijn, Sessegnon and others were all brought in for high salaries plus Bale's salary and I provided our wages in an earlier post. We have paid big but without a plan in place this has led to our current uneven squad.

Maybe shoestring was the wrong choice of word, salary wise we are definitely getting there but we need to get to a point where if a manager says he wants x or y player(s) and its going to cost big levy shouldn't choke on his cornflakes and back them.

Take Klopp for example, we all know he wanted a new centre back and keeper, they identified the 2 he wanted and they backed him. Yes they paid a fuck load of money for them but FSG trusted their man and delivered and the rest is history.

Levy shouldn't even be dabbling in player recruitment, if he feels like he should then there's something wrong with that side of things and as such it should be fixed. He just needs to sign the cheques.

 

[dontcallme]

Maybe shoestring was the wrong choice of word, salary wise we are definitely getting there but we need to get to a point where if a manager says he wants x or y player(s) and its going to cost big levy shouldn't choke on his cornflakes and back them.

Take Klopp for example, we all know he wanted a new centre back and keeper, they identified the 2 he wanted and they backed him. Yes they paid a fuck load of money for them but FSG trusted their man and delivered and the rest is history.

Levy shouldn't even be dabbling in player recruitment, if he feels like he should then there's something wrong with that side of things and as such it should be fixed. He just needs to sign the cheques.

Levy bought Ndombele for around £50m. Lo Celso was £30m. He broke our salary budget to bring in Bale.

Klopp got VVD and Alison after they sold Coutinho for huge. Again, I think you are wrong pinpointing our problems on Levy's penny-pinching. Jose himself was surprised at the amount of deals we got done in the summer.

Your last paragraph is closer to the truth. Our player recruitment strategy is off.

 

[SuperSpurs69]

Levy bought Ndombele for around £50m. Lo Celso was £30m. He broke our salary budget to bring in Bale.

Klopp got VVD and Alison after they sold Coutinho for huge. Again, I think you are wrong pinpointing our problems on Levy's penny-pinching. Jose himself was surprised at the amount of deals we got done in the summer.

Your last paragraph is closer to the truth. Our player recruitment strategy is off.

Don't get me wrong, he's loosened the purse strings although in the summer we spent fuck all as we were shrewd, got some loan players in and sold some players.

Now, I'm not expecting us to spend city levels of money every transfer window but I think we need to be in a position where if the manager identifies a player he wants, regardless of cost, then levy stumps up without dawdling trying to balance the books first or submitting stupid lowball offers that piss the other club off.

Grealish is a prime example of that, and if Jose wanted skriniar just pay inter what they want and trust him. Yes I know its easy to spend money when it isn't yours but if your manager is telling you who they want then you've got to trust them and back them because I'm pretty sure they know more than levy.

 

[dontcallme]

Don't get me wrong, he's loosened the purse strings although in the summer we spent fuck all as we were shrewd, got some loan players in and sold some players.

Now, I'm not expecting us to spend city levels of money every transfer window but I think we need to be in a position where if the manager identifies a player he wants, regardless of cost, then levy stumps up without dawdling trying to balance the books first or submitting stupid lowball offers that piss the other club off.

Grealish is a prime example of that, and if Jose wanted skriniar just pay inter what they want and trust him. Yes I know its easy to spend money when it isn't yours but if your manager is telling you who they want then you've got to trust them and back them because I'm pretty sure they know more than levy.

Grealish isn’t a good example as there is no information suggesting Poch wanted him, I have often heard the opposite.

If another team had bought Skriniar I would understand. He is very highly rated and if he was available for a fee I have little doubt someone would have bought him.

So I find it hard to accept these as examples of Levy not spending.

The deals we have done are expensive and surely proof that we are paying up for players.

 

[SuperSpurs69]

Grealish isn’t a good example as there is no information suggesting Poch wanted him, I have often heard the opposite.

If another team had bought Skriniar I would understand. He is very highly rated and if he was available for a fee I have little doubt someone would have bought him.

So I find it hard to accept these as examples of Levy not spending.

The deals we have done are expensive and surely proof that we are paying up for players.

Yes I do agree that we are paying up and its taken long enough to do so, but realistically I think we need to be in a position where we have substantial transfer pots every summer, and I'm talking close to triple figures before outgoings.

Unfortunately you can't stand still in the Premier league and we need to have the money available for the manager without the need to sell players first.

I know levy wants the best for the club, but I think we need to have 1 or 2 windows of proper intent. There's a lot of shit that needs clearing in the squad and we need to do it ASAP before we get left behind. Doing it over 3 or 4 windows is no good. Is levy willing to stump up that money at the expense of having another bumper year?

 

[parj]

So serious question, when does the Levy/ENIC out movement begin? There have been a few occasions where they haven't backed the managers when we need a lil more spending on top quality but we were given a squad player.

Surely the time has come to now force them to put real money in or get out?