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[Donki]

Yeah we had Commoli who was good IMO and it improved us but we never stuck to the formula because of Levy's insistence in chopping and changing managers (went from Jol to Ramos to Redknapp), to be fair when we were flirting with relegation we brought in Redknapp who would always want his own players.

I don't think we had one manager appointed with a DoF type involved, I think Jol was the only one but he wasn't even supposed to be the first team coach. I have some optimism with Fonseca and Paratici, who is showing faith in him. If Levy can keep his fingers off the pair of them we could be in for a surprise, if he starts getting overly involved we will see the same old shit.

 

[Shadydan]

I don't think we had one manager appointed with a DoF type involved, I think Jol was the only one but he wasn't even supposed to be the first team coach. I have some optimism with Fonseca and Paratici, who is showing faith in him. If Levy can keep his fingers off the pair of them we could be in for a surprise, if he starts getting overly involved we will see the same old shit.

Yeah it's been a bit of a mish mash - we've stumbled on formula's without really thinking about them or any pre planning. I think the good thing is that Fonseca is Paratici's pick so they can work together - for the first time we'll have a coach and DOF on the same page I think, the only question mark is whether Fonseca is any good.

 

[shelfboy68]

Now this is where we do need to look at this logically, while I have recently hung up my BSoDL lanyard, I can see how the past year of COVID has seriously fucked our budget progressions, its not just that we weren't getting our normal matchday income we weren't getting the doubling of it that was budgeted. Again, I am not Levys biggest fan right now, but there is no way he could have seen the pandemic.

No one is blaming him for the pandemic I'm referring to what the initial building of the stadium was for and moving forward.

 

[robotsonic]

Yeah it's been a bit of a mish mash - we've stumbled on formula's without really thinking about them or any pre planning. I think the good thing is that Fonseca is Paratici's pick so they can work together - for the first time we'll have a coach and DOF on the same page I think, the only question mark is whether Fonseca is any good.

Well, we had Arnesen and Jol...for about 5 minutes until Arnesen had his head turned.

 

[hellava_tough]

Well, we had Arnesen and Jol...for about 5 minutes until Arnesen had his head turned.

Incidentally, did we ever get to the bottom of why Santini left?

 

[Trix]

Kane's gone this summer or next summer. I've no doubts about it.

The upcoming appointment of Fonseca is just going to make Kane's decision a lot easier unfortunately.

Doesn't matter who we appoint it doesn't change the fact. It is not Kanes decision to make. He can decide he wants to leave, he can't decide he is going to.

 

[Shadydan]

Well, we had Arnesen and Jol...for about 5 minutes until Arnesen had his head turned.

Ah yeah Chelsea really fucked us up there - they've got a history of doing stuff like that.

 

[Marty]

Yeah it's been a bit of a mish mash - we've stumbled on formula's without really thinking about them or any pre planning. I think the good thing is that Fonseca is Paratici's pick so they can work together - for the first time we'll have a coach and DOF on the same page I think, the only question mark is whether Fonseca is any good.

Wasn't Comolli the whole reason we appointed Ramos? Comolli certainly fell on his sword over it and left when Ramos was sacked.

 

[robotsonic]

We would have had Arnesen and Jol in tandem for longer too if we'd just got Jol in as head coach from the start instead of Santini, but I suppose there's always pressure to go for the big name rather than the lesser fancied option

 

[Shadydan]

Wasn't Comolli the whole reason we appointed Ramos? Comolli certainly fell on his sword over it and left when Ramos was sacked.

Oh yeah maybe actually you're right, the intentions were there but Ramos just wasn't very good, then we had to act by ripping up the structure because we were in the bottom 3 so needed a specialist manager like Redknapp to save us.

 

[Marty]

Oh yeah maybe actually you're right, the intentions were there but Ramos just wasn't very good, then we had to act by ripping up the structure because we were in the bottom 3 so needed a specialist manager like Redknapp to save us.

Yeah that's how I remember it.

 

[n0.1.spurs]

Very naive comment from JJ. You can’t spend money you haven’t got. Especially as the ‘big boys’ will have champions league revenue to count on, and won’t be burdened with paying off a new stadium.

No doubt we’ll spend but it won’t match the teams above us unless we generate big money from selling Kane.

Ah yes. CL revenue. I’m glad you bought that up…

Granted Mourinho has to take the fair share of blame for us dropping so many points from Dec with his negative tactics, I would say a lot of the self inflicted mistakes in defence would have been greatly reduced had we signed a top class CB that we were all hoping for last summer. In turn we would have most likely finished in the top 4 and have more money. It doesn't even require much hindsight either. It's called taking a calculated risk. Something our beloved chairman hates doing. He is so risk adverse it's beyond frustrating now. How do we end up chasing Skriniar to then end up believing Rodon will be the man to help guide us into the top 4? How do we chase all the top managers in Europe possible to then end up with Fonseca?

The club now have to spend the money on a top CB or two this summer because for some strange reason it clearly wasn't obvious enough that last summer is when we should have acted like a "big club." Make it make sense as to why we've wasted a season coming to the conclusion that we do need to infest in a new defence a year after the fact that fans were begging for us to get a top CB. We’ve now squandered winning anything with Kane because he will be long gone. All for the sake of walking away from deals which we have deemed £10m over the budget. CL qualification and a good run in the competition would have paid for a new CB in itself and kept this club progressing the way it had done for most of Poch's tenure.

There's a reason why fans joke that To Dare is Too Dear and I understand the frustrations because we have set ourselves at least two to three seasons back to just catch up with where we once were under Poch for most of his tenure. In addition to the challenge that beckons us, we are doing so with Fonseca, who is pretty much a wild card appointment. It will either be a masterstroke or a disaster and I don't even think Levy knows how it will play out in what is an unforgiving league.

I don't believe it's a very naive comment from JJ at all. He is a frustrated fan who wants to see us succeed which starts with the mentality aspect from top to bottom. I think this comment from him is relating to the managerial appointment too, which is an underwhelming decision that Levy is making yet again. There's no getting away from it. It's a mid-table style appointment for a team that has one of the best stadiums in the world and was in a CL final only a couple of years ago.

I saw it thrown about yesterday on here in the managerial thread and what's funny is, is that some fans will attack anyone that show any sign of discontent about this upcoming managerial appointment. A word thrown about was that some fans were acting "entitled" because they are displeased with Fonseca and what that entails for our chances of competing at the top end of the table. "Toys thrown out the pram" another example. If you look at all the best teams in Europe, all of the fans are entitled. They want the best. They complain. All traits we've seen one of the best players in the world do on so many occasions; Ronaldo. These negative connotations are actually a positive sign of someone wanting the best and not settling. We at this club, fans included are so used to failing that we find comfort in it and come up with any excuse under the sun as to why we can't compete with the "big boys."

 

[dbspurs]

Doesn't matter who we appoint it doesn't change the fact. It is not Kanes decision to make. He can decide he wants to leave, he can't decide he is going to.

I get that but we have to be realistic. Do any of us believe he will sign another contract?

That means we need to sell this summer or next. Levy surely won't allow him to get into the last year of his contract.

 

[Shadydan]

I get that but we have to be realistic. Do any of us believe he will sign another contract?

That means we need to sell this summer or next. Levy surely won't allow him to get into the last year of his contract.

We can sell next year and still get a decent fee as he currently has 3 years left, 2 years next year.

Hazard left Chelsea for over £100m in his last year.

 

[Lighty64]

No one is blaming him for the pandemic I'm referring to what the initial building of the stadium was for and moving forward.

even if you refuse to respond

but the stadium hasn't been open for 1 full season yet so expecting results this early is wrong

 

[dbspurs]

No we don't, we can sell next year and still get a decent fee as he has 2 years left.

Hazard left Chelsea for over £100m in his last year.

I said we need to sell this summer (3 years left) or next summer (2 years left).

What are you disagreeing with?

 

[Trix]

I get that but we have to be realistic. Do any of us believe he will sign another contract?

That means we need to sell this summer or next. Levy surely won't allow him to get into the last year of his contract.

Lots could happen between now and then mate. I can't see him going this window and stuff does seem to be evolving behind the scenes.

 

[shelfboy68]

I get that but we have to be realistic. Do any of us believe he will sign another contract?

That means we need to sell this summer or next. Levy surely won't allow him to get into the last year of his contract.

He said he wants to win trophies so seeing that isn't happening at Spurs I would think it's likely he will not sign another contract and I don't blame him.

 

[Lighty64]

Oh yeah maybe actually you're right, the intentions were there but Ramos just wasn't very good, then we had to act by ripping up the structure because we were in the bottom 3 so needed a specialist manager like Redknapp to save us.

bottom of the 3

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Yeah it's been a bit of a mish mash - we've stumbled on formula's without really thinking about them or any pre planning. I think the good thing is that Fonseca is Paratici's pick so they can work together - for the first time we'll have a coach and DOF on the same page I think, the only question mark is whether Fonseca is any good.

If they have picked each other they need to be the right formula or we have double trouble.