ENIC...

[Who’s our next manager?]

Yeah as if you’re gonna pay £60 for thé privilège of protesting lol

Makes no sense, the yanks are a big source of revenue for the club going forward.

 

[Metalhead]

This is funny but tweeted by one of the worst spurs fan accounts out there. They just just tweet pure toxic shit daily. I had to block them. Their tweets kept appearing in my feed and triggering me.

F*ck me, the joke goes on a bit. I got a bit bored after the Steven Gerrard one.

 

[LeParisien]

It’s all subjective, of course, but I believe that he has done a brilliant job overall, given the incredibly challenging circumstances that he inherited and that he has subsequently faced since 2001.

You disagree. That’s fine.

You’re very civil but in reality there’s no objective standard critics are really appealing to. They’re just upset that the team isn’t winning and unless we get every decision 100% right there’ll be people lambasting Levy and using terms like BSoDL un ironically. It’s pretty toxic.

There’s no équivalence between the two stances.

 

[Metalhead]

You’re very civil but in reality there’s no objective standard critics are really appealing to. They’re just upset that the team isn’t winning and unless we get every decision 100% right there’ll be people lambasting Levy and using terms like BSoDL un ironically. It’s pretty toxic.

There’s no équivalence between the two stances.

Part of the problem also is that people don't realise that there are only a small number on here who are completely "Levy/ENIC can do no wrong, Daniel can come over anytime and I'll give him a back rub " and likewise there are very few who are completely "Levy/ENIC have never done anything right, Daniel is a w*nker". I bet that you have had your reservations on a number of occasions but presumably overall you don't think that there are many better options out there.

 

[LeParisien]

Part of the problem also is that people don't realise that there are only a small number on here who are completely "Levy/ENIC can do no wrong, Daniel can come over anytime and I'll give him a back rub " and likewise there are very few who are completely "Levy/ENIC have never done anything right, Daniel is a w*nker". I bet that you have had your reservations on a number of occasions but presumably overall you don't think that there are many better options out there.

Yeah you’re right there’s a spectrum and I shouldn’t fall into the trap of creating two sides. Spot on - I shouldn’t have done that.

I don’t think Enic or Levy are perfect but I don’t think perfection is the standard and I won’t make harsh criticisms based on hindsight.

There are such deep seated differences in perspective that there’ll never be consensus. There are those that would be delighted if an oligarch bought us and splashed hundreds of millions to take us to glory. I would hate that. So in that sense I think @SecretLemonadeDrinker is right. There is a subjective element to the fundamental perspectives, even if the honesty of arguments aren’t at all equivalent. But that’s true of everything I guess !

 

[Metalhead]

Yeah you’re right there’s a spectrum and I shouldn’t fall into the trap of creating two sides. Spot on - I shouldn’t have done that.

I don’t think Enic or Levy are perfect but I don’t think perfection is the standard and I won’t make harsh criticisms based on hindsight.

There are such deep seated differences in perspective that there’ll never be consensus. There are those that would be delighted if an oligarch bought us and splashed hundreds of millions to take us to glory. I would hate that. So in that sense I think @SecretLemonadeDrinker is right. There is a subjective element to the fundamental perspectives, even if the honesty of arguments aren’t at all equivalent. But that’s true of everything I guess !

Absolutely. For me, I can see that it is the right time for some structural changes and it looks from Dragon's ITK and I think that JJ said similar, that the board are looking at new roles and a DoF is looking likely, which I think is a positive. Things do seem to have got stale and yes, COVID may well be partly or even significantly responsible for that. We should be able to see improvement on the pitch over the next few seasons by way of additional revenue from the stadium. If that hasn't transpired then that will be the time to get really frustrated.

 

[dontcallme]

Part of the problem also is that people don't realise that there are only a small number on here who are completely "Levy/ENIC can do no wrong, Daniel can come over anytime and I'll give him a back rub " and likewise there are very few who are completely "Levy/ENIC have never done anything right, Daniel is a w*nker". I bet that you have had your reservations on a number of occasions but presumably overall you don't think that there are many better options out there.

Too true.

2 weeks ago I made a one sentence post defending Levy and got a response of "you are Levy" and told I won't accept a single criticism of him.

Then the next week I made a one sentence post criticising him and was told I only see the bad.

I think the amount of people who are fully one side or the other are a minority.

 

[Shadydan]

Too true.

2 weeks ago I made a one sentence post defending Levy and got a response of "you are Levy" and told I won't accept a single criticism of him.

Then the next week I made a one sentence post criticising him and was told I only see the bad.

I think the amount of people who are fully one side or the other are a minority.

Try doing that on Twitter lol you'll have all sorts of people trying to attack you lol

 

[Lumiere]

I don't think sabotaging the club and our revenue streams is a good strategy.

But that's the exact point of protesting right? Disrupt a revenue stream to make a point and force someone to listen. Whether you agree with it or not, if you're a protester it probably is a good strategy.

 

[sausage]

But that's the exact point of protesting right? Disrupt a revenue stream to make a point and force someone to listen. Whether you agree with it or not, if you're a protester it probably is a good strategy.

Isn't disrupting revenue directly hindering the original issue? They aren't Microsoft - people seem to be annoyed that we don't have money to burn. So burning more of it isn't going to help, right?

 

[dontcallme]

But that's the exact point of protesting right? Disrupt a revenue stream to make a point and force someone to listen. Whether you agree with it or not, if you're a protester it probably is a good strategy.

I think if you care about the club then sabotaging our revenue streams is a very bad idea. The most they'll achieve is getting the rest of the fans to hate them more than the board.

 

[mkkid]

Farhad Moshiri runs Everton .
ive enjoyed all of daniel sucess from sacking Graham,sellino both our forwards before a season started, sacking Jol, constantly not investing, when the team needed it, Stratford, but the biggest club shop in Europe, made up for everything.
Sacking a manger before a cup final and appointing coneman was a master stroke.
Spurs need to qualify for Europe.

oh and the one glorious league cup.

Anyone get it noW!!!!!

60 pounds for villa home and cone man is manager of a 1.8 billion company..
southampton. out played for 45 minutes
Man City, we should have conceded the game and given the players a rest
sheffield Utd , literally the worse team ,be seen in a decade
Leeds. Have just run the legs off us and outplayed us.

There is no forward thinking in club, except when it comes to making money off the field of play.

Mark my words, Arsenal are going to catch us..

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Ironic how there’s going to be a protest next weekend & then just a few days later the stadium will have 10k & putting money back into their pockets ??‍

 

[mkkid]

Ironic how there’s going to be a protest next weekend & then just a few days later the stadium will have 10k & putting money back into their pockets ??‍

i don’t get it, watch it home and let Levy enjoy his empty stadium with just the Vloggers in it.

 

[RuskyM]

in 2014, we were sitting in sixth, going nowhere after a miserable season mostly overseen by a portuguese ex-chelsea manager with the prospect of a long slog ahead of us.

in 2021, we are sitting in sixth, going nowhere after a miserable season mostly overseen by a portuguese ex-chelsea manager with the prospect of a long slog ahead of us.

in seven years, we've not moved an inch, and they are expecting me to pay £60 to watch this next week. ENIC can absolutely fuck off.

 

[DiVaio]

in 2014, we were sitting in sixth, going nowhere after a miserable season mostly overseen by a portuguese ex-chelsea manager with the prospect of a long slog ahead of us.

in 2021, we are sitting in sixth, going nowhere after a miserable season mostly overseen by a portuguese ex-chelsea manager with the prospect of a long slog ahead of us.

in seven years, we've not moved an inch, and they are expecting me to pay £60 to watch this next week. ENIC can absolutely fuck off.

Yeah by those seven years nothing happened...

 

[RuskyM]

Yeah by those seven years nothing happened...

what's happened? oh, we got lucky with an exceptional manager, who we then opted not to support. you can trace so many issues we have now to the summer where we bought no one.

in that seven years, we've overseen the best spurs side in decades come together and slowly fall away with a constant promise of "in the future!" as an excuse. frankly i'm tired of it. the club is going nowhere under daniel levy.

 

[DiVaio]

what's happened? oh, we got lucky with an exceptional manager, who we then opted not to support. you can trace so many issues we have now to the summer where we bought no one.

in that seven years, we've overseen the best spurs side in decades come together and slowly fall away with a constant promise of "in the future!" as an excuse. frankly i'm tired of it. the club is going nowhere under daniel levy.

Think you just answered yourself saying we had an exceptional manger and best spurs side in decades ?

 

[RuskyM]

Think you just answered yourself saying we had an exceptional manger and best spurs side in decades ?

and? that wasn't a team designed by daniel levy: it was a manager punching well above his weight with a youth product with an unprecedented development leading the line with a teenager from league 1.

people always talk of ENIC like they saved us from these barren wasteland years, but we won more in the 90s than we have under levy. am i saying i want those days back? course not, but i'd like a football club that's trying to charge me the second highest ticket prices in the league to have a better recent trophy count than swansea city or wigan athletic.

 

[DiVaio]

and? that wasn't a team designed by daniel levy: it was a manager punching well above his weight with a youth product with an unprecedented development leading the line with a teenager from league 1.

people always talk of ENIC like they saved us from these barren wasteland years, but we won more in the 90s than we have under levy. am i saying i want those days back? course not, but i'd like a football club that's trying to charge me the second highest ticket prices in the league to have a better recent trophy count than swansea city or wigan athletic.

Manager brought here by Levy, youth product who joined academy but wasn't seen as an amazing young talent and improved massively because academy coaches and Poch employed by Levy, with help of teenager found by scout employed by Levy who again, improved massively because Poch.

And, if you use any argument with trophies which mostly depends on luck in one match, then you also should acknowledge "luck" with Poch/Kane/Dele ?