ENIC...

[matthew.absurdum]

Ok Nuno has his own problems. But if what the ITKs said were true, then Levy put out the Traoré deal is just simply criminal. (Not to mention that no backup for Kane again). We won three 1-0 matches, the Levy decided that we are that good enough without any need to strengthen our attack. The more I think about it, the more I think Levy is really dragging the club back to where we were 15 years ago.

 

[Cream]

It's like Stockholm syndrome if you still believe levy is the way forward with our club.

When will the penny drop?

I'm starting to think never.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

I would never have believed the stockholm syndrome line but our fans are wandering around saying

‘chelsea have a much better squad, a much better manager so it’s to be expected that we got beaten’

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Levy must be very very worried about his latest managerial appointment on the back of his 3/4 years of complete mismanagement of the 1st team

He 'took his eye off the ball’ alright!!!!

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Nothing will ever change under our current ownership, prepare for more misery …

 

[Essex Spur]

I'm actually a fan of what Levy and ENIC have achieved with us in terms of stability and the stadium etc having lived through Sugar era, however I do feel the football side has always been lacking and this season is showing it all again.

On the pitch we have regressed dramatically and while I don't think Traore is the answer to all our problems someone like that yesterday in the second half could have pinned Chelsea back enough that we could have maybe held on !

The team is just so functional now with no true flair or imagination

Time for a change, but you cant sack a owner !

 

[shelfboy68]

Levy must be very very worried about his latest managerial appointment on the back of his 3/4 years of complete mismanagement of the 1st team

He 'took his eye off the ball’ alright!!!!

Yes and we can look forward to years of catch up I think not.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

The most common excuses for ENIC over the years were wait until the stadium was built then judge them... Apparently after the stadium was built we would challenge the big boys, otherwise what was the point… unfortunately as expected seems that was just a property portfolio building exercise to self serve and a mixture of lack of ambition and incompetence now sees us completely regress.

I don't want to sound antagonistic, I told you so etc, at the end of the day all fans desire is for success, and as fans we are stronger when we unite. I'm hoping more fans are coming around to the idea that we're not going anywhere fast with these chancers, 20 years of the same failures (albeit withdifferent but never-ending excuses to be found) I hope united we start to put some serious pressure on them either to change their ways or feck off because what they are doing is not working, really we are now back to a mid table squad a couple of injuries away from lower table, that’s not what anyone would have waited 20 years for….

 

[septicsac]

We will win nothing until ENIC and Levy have left the building, yesterday was further evidence of same, where the Chelsea owner has invested in a team and not a stadium/business.
Top that off with their ability to scout properly and our abject failings in this dept . We cannot compete financially with them, so all the more reason for proper due diligence when scouting players.
Levy will never stop interfering in player acquisitions and one miracle signing in Van de Vart has him believing his own hype, where the facts l will bear out our multiple failings in the transfer windows, from signing no one when we were so close to the multiple N'flops.

 

[thebenjamin]

The most common excuses for ENIC over the years were wait until the stadium was built then judge them... Apparently after the stadium was built we would challenge the big boys, otherwise what was the point… unfortunately as expected seems that was just a property portfolio building exercise to self serve and a mixture of lack of ambition and incompetence now sees us completely regress.

I don't want to sound antagonistic, I told you so etc, at the end of the day all fans desire is for success, and as fans we are stronger when we unite. I'm hoping more fans are coming around to the idea that we're not going anywhere fast with these chancers, 20 years of the same failures (albeit withdifferent but never-ending excuses to be found) I hope united we start to put some serious pressure on them either to change their ways or feck off because what they are doing is not working, really we are now back to a mid table squad a couple of injuries away from lower table, that’s not what anyone would have waited 20 years for….

I think people realise that but they also know that it's not going to make a blind bit of difference what they think. ENIC are only ever going to sell the club on one condition, and that's when someone gives them the extortionate amount of money they want for it. Supporter opinion / demonstrations etc is going to do absolutely zilch.

 

[shelfboy68]

I think people realise that but they also know that it's not going to make a blind bit of difference what they think. ENIC are only ever going to sell the club on one condition, and that's when someone gives them the extortionate amount of money they want for it. Supporter opinion / demonstrations etc is going to do absolutely zilch.

We know that all they are interested in is building a huge sporting portfolio hoping that they can sell it for billions.
Problem is that whilst we are the anchor tenants within the set up with the core element of the business the playing side of THFC is so shit that they won't get as much for it.
Could you imagine if we was a city or Chelsea who are successful on the pitch would see potential investors much more interested than the product ENIC have to offer.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

We will win nothing until ENIC and Levy have left the building, yesterday was further evidence of same, where the Chelsea owner has invested in a team and not a stadium/business.
Top that off with their ability to scout properly and our abject failings in this dept . We cannot compete financially with them, so all the more reason for proper due diligence when scouting players.
Levy will never stop interfering in player acquisitions and one miracle signing in Van de Vart has him believing his own hype, where the facts l will bear out our multiple failings in the transfer windows, from signing no one when we were so close to the multiple N'flops.

The Chelsea owner has used Putin's dirty money and has cleansed this through Chelsea. Their is no investment, just a convenient laundry, that was on the verge of bankruptcy under Ken Bates.

 

[shelfboy68]

The Chelsea owner has used Putin's dirty money and has cleansed this through Chelsea. Their is no investment, just a convenient laundry, that was on the verge of bankruptcy under Ken Bates.

So why isn't the British government doing anything about it then I have asked this question several times and nobody can provide an answer to what seems petty jealousy.

 

[sidford]

So why isn't the British government doing anything about it then I have asked this question several times and nobody can provide an answer to what seems petty jealousy.

It's not in the government's interest to. Like it or not London, particularly funds and property market, is full of dirty money and no English government will upset that as it helps the economy too much. I'm not going to get into it in detail here as its not the place for it but even a quick Google search on it will give you a lot of info.

Now back to giving out about the bald twat.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

So why isn't the British government doing anything about it then I have asked this question several times and nobody can provide an answer to what seems petty jealousy.

They will employ the worlds best loophole lawyers on the planet to legitimate their actions. Abramovich has been exiled in Israel for the last two years.. You have to ask yourself why?

 

[shelfboy68]

It's not in the government's interest to. Like it or not London, particularly funds and property market, is full of dirty money and no English government will upset that as it helps the economy too much. I'm not going to get into it in detail here as its not the place for it but even a quick Google search on it will give you a lot of info.

Now back to giving out about the bald twat.

There you go so it's not that big a deal then is it if they want to spend they can.

 

[shelfboy68]

They will employ the worlds best loophole lawyers on the planet to legitimate their actions. Abramovich has been exiled in Israel for the last two years.. You have to ask yourself why?

It hasn't stopped his team being successful still though has it.

 

[SpursSince1980]

I would never have believed the stockholm syndrome line but our fans are wandering around saying

‘chelsea have a much better squad, a much better manager so it’s to be expected that we got beaten’

Technically that’s group think, as opposed to Stockholm Syndrome.

Oh, and yes, Chelsea do have a better squad and manager. Doesn’t mean defeat is accepted. Just that reality suggests it was always going to be very hard.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

You can go into all the detail and analyse it in detail but as of now the summary on ENIC/LEVY is fairly simple

•Great job on the infrastructure (stadium&training ground are phenomenal world class)

•Awful job on PR over the years (Stratford stadium proposal, ticket pricing, ESL, promising / saying one thing then doing something completely different)

•Ok to poor but also very frustrating job on the football side of the club. Yes they’ve ultimately taken our average league PL position from something like 12th to about 6th. BUT the managerial hires, player recruitment and overall plan for the football side of the club could’ve been managed much better and if it has been then we’d likely have won more trophies in the last 20 years and the fans would be a lot less frustrated if there was a clear direction and plan/philosophy on the football side which is geared towards success and also a style of play which fits with the clubs DNA and one which the fans can be positive and enthusiastic about.

So it’s a pretty mixed bag overall and yes it could be much worse aka Mike Ashley etc but then again it could also be much better given that with the resources we have built under ENIC the lack of trophies and cohesion and plan on the football side is disappointing and frustrating.

COYS

 

[septicsac]

The Chelsea owner has used Putin's dirty money and has cleansed this through Chelsea. Their is no investment, just a convenient laundry, that was on the verge of bankruptcy under Ken Bates.

Look on it as you wish and I agree with you with regards the shady side of the blue scum owner, but one-way or the other he invests in the team, he wants to win, at all costs. I have no love for him, nor the oil clubs, but sick of people defending ENIC and Levy, yes we have a wonderful first class stadium, where every i was dotted and every t crossed, yet when it comes to the team and in particular our scouting we appear to be cutting corners left, right and centre. When was the last time we spent money on a top quality player, a guaranteed as it could be successful player, like Fergie did with Rooney or Ferdinand or Chelsea did with Silva at centre half? Instead Levy appears obsessed with finding the next big thing on the cheap and then when we do buy big we seem to be intent on going abroad and then due diligence obviously was not carried out, eg. with likes of nDombele and lo celso, no one can claim they were anywhere near value for money.
If I had a job at the top at Spurs then I would start with our scouts, the likes of Leicester have shown you do not need to blow silly amounts , but players like Fofana and Tielsmans are out there with the right team in place to source them, something we used to do with some success with likes of Bale, Eriksen,Lloris, Verts, Toby, but for some reason we have become shit at it