jimbo
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Irrelevant, but Qatar is natural gas not oil.
More relevant, why are we losing our absolute shit and fighting about something that hasn’t happened and likely won’t happen?
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More relevant, why are we losing our absolute shit and fighting about something that hasn’t happened and likely won’t happen?
IamSpurtacus
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RuskyM
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Right, we live in a capitalist hellscape, but you have to drink / buy food / live somewhere. You don’t have to support Spurs if supporting Spurs means supporting the suppression of real people. The reason these nations want to buy clubs is exactly the reason they shouldn’t be allowed to: it’s how geordies are now very happy to ignore Saudi’s atrocities.
No billionaire is innocent but a state is another thing entirely. Supporting them is enabling them. And yeah I’m a hypocrite because I watched the World Cup and I'm not going to make anyone feel anything, but fuckin hell surely we’ve got to draw a line somewhere?
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Ghost Hardware
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I don’t know if it was mentioned, but Ben Jacobs said on the Last Word tonight that Levy is open to selling up to 30% but QSI are looking for a smaller share.
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I lived in Qatar for three years in 2008 and it’s true that they exploit people from poorer countries although these people were still earning better than they would at home (I spoke to a few Doctors that were taxi drivers there as it was more money than being a doctor back home!). I would say most of what you read and the actual reality of things there though are quite far apart. They seemed to be quite forward thinking and women seemed very respected out there. There were definitely not people being stoned to death in front of everyone. It’s still a very young country that’s trying to evolve but still trying to balance its Islamic roots (a very difficult balancing act indeed).
The saddest part of the whole experience for me were the actual westerners using the laws in their favour to exploit people from poorer countries by either running building projects (I can guarantee a lot of Westerners were involved in managing the WC stadiums) and exploiting the workers or using them as maids or nanny’s and treating them like dirt. Lots of people are quick to say how disgusting it is but many westerners are making lots of money out there and don’t seem too bothered.
The saddest part of the whole experience for me were the actual westerners using the laws in their favour to exploit people from poorer countries by either running building projects (I can guarantee a lot of Westerners were involved in managing the WC stadiums) and exploiting the workers or using them as maids or nanny’s and treating them like dirt. Lots of people are quick to say how disgusting it is but many westerners are making lots of money out there and don’t seem too bothered.
DanielJohnCosta
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this new info?
www.telegraph.co.uk
Qatar eyes £1bn stake in Spurs
Nasser Al-Khelaifi met with Daniel Levy as Qatar sets its sights on acquisitions across European sport
www.telegraph.co.uk
THFCSPURS19
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www.telegraph.co.uk
Qatar has signalled potential interest in taking a stake in Tottenham Hotspur after the nation's most influential sporting chief met with Daniel Levy. Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who is also president of Paris Saint-Germain, held talks with the executive chairman last week as the nation weighs up ambitious post-World Cup investment.
Sources close to Levy maintain the pair met only as friends and there were no discussions "regarding equity of the club". However, other insiders suggested the subject may now be raised as Qatar Sports Investments considers the possibility of a new minority stake at a Premier League club.
An offer worth under £1 billion for a 25 per cent stake in Tottenham was mooted by industry specialists as an option, with Al-Khelaifi and Levy said to be on good terms. Representatives for Manchester United are also understood to have tested interest at high levels in Qatar in recent months, but the suggestion at this stage is that Spurs would be a more likely prospect.
One source with knowledge of the situation said it was too early to say whether Qatar would now ask for formal talks with Tottenham. However, the insider added that European sport can expect "strategic acquisitions that are going to be quite bold" from QSI in the coming months.
"Over Christmas and New Year, there's a push from senior levels to really go for it at QSI," the insider added. "The suggestion that Qatar is going to pack up and leave after the World Cup has always frustrated BeIN (the Qatari-owned broadcaster), QSI and PSG."
Last October, QSI bought a 22 per cent stake of Portugal’s SC Braga for around £90million. But Doha-based sporting investment arm has since set loftier ambitions to rival that of the multi-club UAE ownership at Manchester City. Prior to the World Cup, there had been minimal interest in Premier League investment but it now seems the mood has changed.
Interest would be limited to a minority investment because Uefa remains opposed to the prospect of teams under the same ownership facing each other in European competition. "It might not be Tottenham but it might be," said the insider over potential interest in Spurs. Al-Khelaifi was said to be acting solely in his role at QSI rather than as head of the European Club Association during the meeting with Levy, who is also a member of the ECA board.
Al-Khelaifi is also known to be in talks with American investors over fresh investment in PSG and BeIN ahead of the World Cup in America in 2026. More than 300 clubs around the world are part of multi-club ownership groups but QSI's only interests are in PSG and Braga. QSI are looking at football investment opportunities around the world.
Despite denials from Tottenham that any investment talk has taken place with Levy, the prospect of significant new funds may appeal to Joe Lewis, the multi-billionaire owner. Antonio Conte has consistently pushed for more significant backing to compete at the top of the table. To help cope with his demands, Lewis injected an extra £150million into the club in May after Enic, the Bahamas-based subsidiary, increased its majority control of the club by about two percentage points.
It is the unique position in which Nasser Al-Khelaifi finds himself in the wake of the Qatar World Cup that makes an investment offer at Tottenham a possibility. Internal meetings since the final in Doha have hardened the nation's determination to seek out fresh, ambitious football investment within Europe.
Manchester United and Liverpool - both openly seeking new partners - might seem a more obvious fit, but a total buyout is said to be of less interest to Qatar while they protect their outright ownership at PSG. There is, however, keen interest in following the Manchester City multi-club investment model, with a host of minority stakes across Europe and beyond.
The Premier League is just one option for Qatar's next move but a stake at Spurs would be as good a fit as any, sources said. Despite denials from the Daniel Levy camp that any investment talks have taken place, Tottenham will have a price in mind should Al-Khelaifi come calling again. As a guide price, Levy was said to have placed a £3.5 billion total price tag on the club when he was last approached by an interested bidder in September 2021.
That fee was branded laughable by some industry experts at the time but, given Chelsea sold for that exact same price by the following spring, Levy will feel his number was in the right ballpark. Clearly the club lacks the trophy-winning pedigree of Chelsea, Liverpool or United, but in terms of overall assets, Tottenham are not far behind.
Antonio Conte remains one of the world's most sought-after managers; Harry Kane and Son Heung-min would be prized by any club; and there is a world-class stadium that may yet start to earn the club serious money. A naming rights deal is still yet to materialise but talks with Google in the autumn sparked renewed hope that a solution was in sight.
Tottenham and their seemingly endless failure to land silverware is a gamble, but Qatar has big enough pockets to take the risk.
Qatar eyes £1bn stake in Spurs
Nasser Al-Khelaifi met with Daniel Levy as Qatar sets its sights on acquisitions across European sport
www.telegraph.co.uk
Qatar in talks with Daniel Levy as they plot post-World Cup investment
Nasser Al-Khelaifi met with Daniel Levy as Qatar set its sights on acquisitions across European sportQatar has signalled potential interest in taking a stake in Tottenham Hotspur after the nation's most influential sporting chief met with Daniel Levy. Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who is also president of Paris Saint-Germain, held talks with the executive chairman last week as the nation weighs up ambitious post-World Cup investment.
Sources close to Levy maintain the pair met only as friends and there were no discussions "regarding equity of the club". However, other insiders suggested the subject may now be raised as Qatar Sports Investments considers the possibility of a new minority stake at a Premier League club.
An offer worth under £1 billion for a 25 per cent stake in Tottenham was mooted by industry specialists as an option, with Al-Khelaifi and Levy said to be on good terms. Representatives for Manchester United are also understood to have tested interest at high levels in Qatar in recent months, but the suggestion at this stage is that Spurs would be a more likely prospect.
One source with knowledge of the situation said it was too early to say whether Qatar would now ask for formal talks with Tottenham. However, the insider added that European sport can expect "strategic acquisitions that are going to be quite bold" from QSI in the coming months.
"Over Christmas and New Year, there's a push from senior levels to really go for it at QSI," the insider added. "The suggestion that Qatar is going to pack up and leave after the World Cup has always frustrated BeIN (the Qatari-owned broadcaster), QSI and PSG."
Last October, QSI bought a 22 per cent stake of Portugal’s SC Braga for around £90million. But Doha-based sporting investment arm has since set loftier ambitions to rival that of the multi-club UAE ownership at Manchester City. Prior to the World Cup, there had been minimal interest in Premier League investment but it now seems the mood has changed.
Interest would be limited to a minority investment because Uefa remains opposed to the prospect of teams under the same ownership facing each other in European competition. "It might not be Tottenham but it might be," said the insider over potential interest in Spurs. Al-Khelaifi was said to be acting solely in his role at QSI rather than as head of the European Club Association during the meeting with Levy, who is also a member of the ECA board.
Al-Khelaifi is also known to be in talks with American investors over fresh investment in PSG and BeIN ahead of the World Cup in America in 2026. More than 300 clubs around the world are part of multi-club ownership groups but QSI's only interests are in PSG and Braga. QSI are looking at football investment opportunities around the world.
Despite denials from Tottenham that any investment talk has taken place with Levy, the prospect of significant new funds may appeal to Joe Lewis, the multi-billionaire owner. Antonio Conte has consistently pushed for more significant backing to compete at the top of the table. To help cope with his demands, Lewis injected an extra £150million into the club in May after Enic, the Bahamas-based subsidiary, increased its majority control of the club by about two percentage points.
Analysis: Tottenham is a risk worth taking for Qatar
By Tom MorganIt is the unique position in which Nasser Al-Khelaifi finds himself in the wake of the Qatar World Cup that makes an investment offer at Tottenham a possibility. Internal meetings since the final in Doha have hardened the nation's determination to seek out fresh, ambitious football investment within Europe.
Manchester United and Liverpool - both openly seeking new partners - might seem a more obvious fit, but a total buyout is said to be of less interest to Qatar while they protect their outright ownership at PSG. There is, however, keen interest in following the Manchester City multi-club investment model, with a host of minority stakes across Europe and beyond.
The Premier League is just one option for Qatar's next move but a stake at Spurs would be as good a fit as any, sources said. Despite denials from the Daniel Levy camp that any investment talks have taken place, Tottenham will have a price in mind should Al-Khelaifi come calling again. As a guide price, Levy was said to have placed a £3.5 billion total price tag on the club when he was last approached by an interested bidder in September 2021.
That fee was branded laughable by some industry experts at the time but, given Chelsea sold for that exact same price by the following spring, Levy will feel his number was in the right ballpark. Clearly the club lacks the trophy-winning pedigree of Chelsea, Liverpool or United, but in terms of overall assets, Tottenham are not far behind.
Antonio Conte remains one of the world's most sought-after managers; Harry Kane and Son Heung-min would be prized by any club; and there is a world-class stadium that may yet start to earn the club serious money. A naming rights deal is still yet to materialise but talks with Google in the autumn sparked renewed hope that a solution was in sight.
Tottenham and their seemingly endless failure to land silverware is a gamble, but Qatar has big enough pockets to take the risk.
danielneeds
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Lovely little dig right at the end of tne article. Couldn’t help themselves, could they?
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Now I am picturing this
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danielneeds
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I find it interesting if it’s true that the Qataris choose us. What’s the central thing that links us, City, Newcastle? Us and City having long-suffering fans ground into the dirt by rivals, desperate for success, and Newcastle just ground into the dirt. Fans that will excuse so much because of that desperation. The sportswashers are just like those guys in the pub who can zero in on the pretty girls with low self-esteem.
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DanielJohnCosta
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Yeh well ideally but we can’t choose the perfect investment
riggi
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Speak for yourself. My letter will be in the post!
So if they, or anyone else, buys a 25% share - presumably the initial investment just buys the shares from Levy and Co. Are we then reliant on the new partial owners wanging more money in, or on levy reinvesting the £1bn?
thanks in adancze.
thanks in adancze.
SirHarryHotspur
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Not sure the lack of silverware at Spurs would deter investors , with a sold out stadium for nearly every event and a large property portfolio , ENIC and Levy seem to have struck gold on Tottenham High Rd, the financial results we are still waiting for must be pretty good for Nasser to come sniffing around . Highly unlikely that QSI will give up control of PSG so a minority stake in a PL club is their only option.
dagraham
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We’ll probably end up the only club tainted by dirty money whereby rather than spent on the team it goes on real estate
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