Eric Dier
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Japhet
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Precisely what we lacked all of last season. I'd put his emergence right at the very top of why we are doing so well.
npearl4spurs
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Big part of the reason we can say "Spurs" and "title contenders" in the same breath.
Dierlin.
Japhet
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Thought we needed Schneiderlin or Illaramendi at the start of the season but am now absolutely thrilled we didn't get either. Dier is a huge part of our future and has (amongst other things) a very mature head on such young shoulders. Reminds me in so many ways of Ledley in his younger days, and that's as high as praise gets in my book.
scat1620
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Agreed with the sentiment that he's completely taken me by surprise in slotting into that DM role as if he'd been playing there all his life, absolutely didn't foresee these kind of performances from him (as a midfielder) at the start of the season.
Re: comparisons to King, I actually think Dier has more going for him on the mentality front than Ledley did - Dier seems to share some of King's composure, but he's more aggressive than Ledley ever was and seems more of an active leader; someone who will drag teammates up by their bootstraps if they're playing under-par. Ledley, on the other hand, was a far quieter, less overtly dominating character on the pitch: he just let his football do the talking. Not saying that Eric is necessarily going to be as good as Ledley was (albeit, why not?), but he's absolutely future captain material in a way that Ledley never was: brilliant mixture of aggression and determination coupled with coolness under pressure. Probably my favourite Spurs player at the moment.
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HW61
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Without wishing to patronise those that can't get to games, Dier is really to be fully appreciated live. There's intelligence and timing in his movement that TV won't pick up. He's the one that free's up others to get noticed. A top performer for the Lillywhites.
npearl4spurs
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He has an inner thigh tattoo???!!! Did we know this?!
TottenhamLegend
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Never been happier to miss out on a £25m player that I really wanted to sign!
Imagine if this lad was still sitting on our bench as a back up CB / RB - he would hardly have played a minute in the PL this season so far!
Poch needs so much credit for this, and I bet it will mean Levy will give him some extra slack if results ever do turn iffy - he's effectively added £25m to the stadium kitty!
Imagine if this lad was still sitting on our bench as a back up CB / RB - he would hardly have played a minute in the PL this season so far!
Poch needs so much credit for this, and I bet it will mean Levy will give him some extra slack if results ever do turn iffy - he's effectively added £25m to the stadium kitty!
npearl4spurs
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Thought for sure we needed Kramer, Bender or that one Atletico Madrid midfielder to have a chance of accomplishing any of our goals this year. Happy to say we no longer do!
I've been so pleased that his passing has been showing signs of getting better and better. And he is always an aerial goal threat as well. The sky's the limit for him, really, and I'm so excited about it.
I've been so pleased that his passing has been showing signs of getting better and better. And he is always an aerial goal threat as well. The sky's the limit for him, really, and I'm so excited about it.
carpediem991
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For me our player of the season so far. No bad matches, absolutely vital for our system to shield the defense and give Alli/Mason/Mousa the licence to get forward. Added to that I love his attitude. Fututre captain material. Long may it continue.
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How Eric Dier's Portuguese education set him apart from his peers
The versatile Tottenham player has impressed under Mauricio Pochettino and earned his first full England caps. Richard Edwards charts the unorthodox rise of Spurs' flying 21-year-old...
In English football, describing a player as a ‘utility man’ often infers that he’s good in a number of positions but not good enough to make one of those his own.
In the case of Eric Dier, though, it should be seen somewhat differently. The Tottenham man, who spent the majority of his first Premier League season playing at centre-back and full back, fitted effortlessly into the England midfield for their 2-0 win over France at Wembley last week. He looked to the manor born in a role that showcased that all-too-rare English commodity – being able to keep possession.
He then continued his form against West Ham at White Hart Lane on Sunday, shining in a defensive screening role alongside fellow starlet Dele Alli. “I’m comfortable in this position,” said Dier, after a 4-1 demolition that cemented Spurs’ place in the Premier League’s chasing pack.
For this very modern footballer, though, that should come as no surprise.
Heads up
Dier looked to the manor born in a role that showcased that all-too-rare English commodity – being able to keep possession
BBC 5 live’s 606 programme isn’t traditionally a first port of call when in search of enlightenment but, on Sunday evening, there was a call which caught FFT's ears. On the other end of Kelly Cates’ and Ian Wright’s phone was a player who had spent some time working under Michael Laudrup’s father, Finn, at Copenhagen in the late 1970s. The caller told the story of being chastised by Laudrup Snr for continually shouting ‘man on’ during a training match. "I know there is,” came the Dane’s reply. “I play with my head up, unlike you Englishmen.”
Dier's education in Portugal means he plays in the same way. And although the softly spoken 21-year-old would be far too self-effacing to admit it, his Portuguese upbringing does appear to have imbued in him the same European qualities that Laudrup referred to during that on-pitch conversation all those years ago.
Dier was at Sporting from the age of eight
Dier’s Portuguese background has occupied plenty of column inches since he arrived back in the country of his birth in the summer of 2014 – but, as he continues to impress for a resurgent Spurs, it’s only now becoming apparent just how valuable the education he received at Sporting was.
He was eight when he first came to the club, a shy English boy with little grasp of the language being spoken by his peers. As would be the case in England – in the playground or on the football pitch – those two realities initially left him on the outside looking in. Those first six months, as a foreigner with his new hometown club, were some of the toughest of his young life.
Mentality and technicality
That notion of keeping the ball, being patient and waiting for your chance would have been foreign to most English players of a similar age. In Portugal, however, it was as natural as breathing
For one of six children, though, Dier was used to having to battle to have his voice heard – and as his Portuguese improved, so did his confidence. Before long he was captaining Sporting's age group sides, barking out instructions to his team-mates in flawless Portuguese.
According to those who saw him play in those formative years, among Dier’s greatest gifts were his composure and precious ability to keep the ball – a trait that Sporting’s coaches ingrained in their charges from an early age.
“Unlike on the park pitches of England on a Saturday and Sunday morning, there were no coaches balling at the youngsters,” a source familiar with Dier's time with the Sporting academy tells FFT. “Players were told things once and expected to learn from it. Likewise, the first question on the return to the Sporting clubhouse after an away match wasn’t ‘did you win?’ but ‘did you play well?’."
That notion of keeping the ball, being patient and waiting for your chance, would have been foreign to most English players of a similar age. In Portugal, however, it was as natural as breathing.
“The surfaces that he played on during his younger years also had a tremendous impact on the way he now plays the game,” said the source. “A lot of Sporting’s youth team matches were played on dirt pitches, the sort of surfaces where you would rip half your leg off if you were brave (or stupid) enough to attempt a slide tackle.”
They were the sort of pitches that would doubtlessly elicit an incredulous, and probably expletive-laden response from any Premier League academy youngster. For Dier, though, this was simply the way things were – and it was an environment he thrived in.
Live-in student
As we get older we don’t do as many training matches, we spend more time concentrating on tactics and positioning
Perhaps the most important element of his development came when he was 14. In Portugal, unlike in England, there is no real tradition of boarding schools or children living away from home. For Dier’s family, though, the travel required to ferry him to and from training at Sporting was becoming more and more difficult. Some tough decisions had to be made.
Dier went to live at the academy, despite the club itself raising the question of whether this was what the family really wanted. Dier would return to the family home, some 45 minutes away, after matches and at weekends. In the meantime, he attended school, lived at the academy where he stayed with other boys whose families didn’t live in Lisbon and completely immersed himself in the country he now called home.
FFT carried out an interview with Dier in 2010, shortly before he appeared in an Umbro advert alongside future England team-mates Wayne Rooney, Joe Hart and Jack Wilshere. He talked us through his daily routine at Sporting.
“I go to school in the morning until late afternoon and we then train between six and eight,” he said. “We’re at pre-season right now but we’re never not working with the football, we do loads of different exercises. But as we get older we don’t do as many training matches, we spend more time concentrating on tactics and positioning.”
That education is not only holding him in terrific stead now, it also helped him carve out a career with the club who had nurtured his talents.
Moving through the ranks
Contrary to popular belief, Dier was never approached by the Portuguese FA to switch allegiances from England to Portugal
He made his debut for Sporting in the Primeira League in November 2012, setting up the winner in a match against Braga. The key to his development, though, came with the appointment of Jesualdo Ferreira, who arrived at the club in January 2013.
Known as the Professor in Portugal, it was Ferreira who had the confidence in Dier to play him in the central midfield role he’s now relishing. The Spurs man only spent six months working with Ferreira, but it was the Professor who went a long way to completing an education that now’s being built on by Mauricio Pochettino.
Ferreira played a central role in Dier's development at Sporting
Contrary to popular belief, Dier was never approached by the Portuguese FA to switch allegiances from England to Portugal. If they had, it’s almost certain that the youngster would have rebuffed their advances in the same way he's been repelling attacks in the Spurs midfield.
Both club and country have every reason to be thankful for that.
More features every day on FFT.com
How Eric Dier's Portuguese education set him apart from his peers
The versatile Tottenham player has impressed under Mauricio Pochettino and earned his first full England caps. Richard Edwards charts the unorthodox rise of Spurs' flying 21-year-old...
In English football, describing a player as a ‘utility man’ often infers that he’s good in a number of positions but not good enough to make one of those his own.
In the case of Eric Dier, though, it should be seen somewhat differently. The Tottenham man, who spent the majority of his first Premier League season playing at centre-back and full back, fitted effortlessly into the England midfield for their 2-0 win over France at Wembley last week. He looked to the manor born in a role that showcased that all-too-rare English commodity – being able to keep possession.
He then continued his form against West Ham at White Hart Lane on Sunday, shining in a defensive screening role alongside fellow starlet Dele Alli. “I’m comfortable in this position,” said Dier, after a 4-1 demolition that cemented Spurs’ place in the Premier League’s chasing pack.
For this very modern footballer, though, that should come as no surprise.
Heads up
Dier looked to the manor born in a role that showcased that all-too-rare English commodity – being able to keep possession
BBC 5 live’s 606 programme isn’t traditionally a first port of call when in search of enlightenment but, on Sunday evening, there was a call which caught FFT's ears. On the other end of Kelly Cates’ and Ian Wright’s phone was a player who had spent some time working under Michael Laudrup’s father, Finn, at Copenhagen in the late 1970s. The caller told the story of being chastised by Laudrup Snr for continually shouting ‘man on’ during a training match. "I know there is,” came the Dane’s reply. “I play with my head up, unlike you Englishmen.”
Dier's education in Portugal means he plays in the same way. And although the softly spoken 21-year-old would be far too self-effacing to admit it, his Portuguese upbringing does appear to have imbued in him the same European qualities that Laudrup referred to during that on-pitch conversation all those years ago.
Dier was at Sporting from the age of eight
Dier’s Portuguese background has occupied plenty of column inches since he arrived back in the country of his birth in the summer of 2014 – but, as he continues to impress for a resurgent Spurs, it’s only now becoming apparent just how valuable the education he received at Sporting was.
He was eight when he first came to the club, a shy English boy with little grasp of the language being spoken by his peers. As would be the case in England – in the playground or on the football pitch – those two realities initially left him on the outside looking in. Those first six months, as a foreigner with his new hometown club, were some of the toughest of his young life.
Mentality and technicality
That notion of keeping the ball, being patient and waiting for your chance would have been foreign to most English players of a similar age. In Portugal, however, it was as natural as breathing
For one of six children, though, Dier was used to having to battle to have his voice heard – and as his Portuguese improved, so did his confidence. Before long he was captaining Sporting's age group sides, barking out instructions to his team-mates in flawless Portuguese.
According to those who saw him play in those formative years, among Dier’s greatest gifts were his composure and precious ability to keep the ball – a trait that Sporting’s coaches ingrained in their charges from an early age.
“Unlike on the park pitches of England on a Saturday and Sunday morning, there were no coaches balling at the youngsters,” a source familiar with Dier's time with the Sporting academy tells FFT. “Players were told things once and expected to learn from it. Likewise, the first question on the return to the Sporting clubhouse after an away match wasn’t ‘did you win?’ but ‘did you play well?’."
That notion of keeping the ball, being patient and waiting for your chance, would have been foreign to most English players of a similar age. In Portugal, however, it was as natural as breathing.
“The surfaces that he played on during his younger years also had a tremendous impact on the way he now plays the game,” said the source. “A lot of Sporting’s youth team matches were played on dirt pitches, the sort of surfaces where you would rip half your leg off if you were brave (or stupid) enough to attempt a slide tackle.”
They were the sort of pitches that would doubtlessly elicit an incredulous, and probably expletive-laden response from any Premier League academy youngster. For Dier, though, this was simply the way things were – and it was an environment he thrived in.
Live-in student
As we get older we don’t do as many training matches, we spend more time concentrating on tactics and positioning
Perhaps the most important element of his development came when he was 14. In Portugal, unlike in England, there is no real tradition of boarding schools or children living away from home. For Dier’s family, though, the travel required to ferry him to and from training at Sporting was becoming more and more difficult. Some tough decisions had to be made.
Dier went to live at the academy, despite the club itself raising the question of whether this was what the family really wanted. Dier would return to the family home, some 45 minutes away, after matches and at weekends. In the meantime, he attended school, lived at the academy where he stayed with other boys whose families didn’t live in Lisbon and completely immersed himself in the country he now called home.
FFT carried out an interview with Dier in 2010, shortly before he appeared in an Umbro advert alongside future England team-mates Wayne Rooney, Joe Hart and Jack Wilshere. He talked us through his daily routine at Sporting.
“I go to school in the morning until late afternoon and we then train between six and eight,” he said. “We’re at pre-season right now but we’re never not working with the football, we do loads of different exercises. But as we get older we don’t do as many training matches, we spend more time concentrating on tactics and positioning.”
That education is not only holding him in terrific stead now, it also helped him carve out a career with the club who had nurtured his talents.
Moving through the ranks
Contrary to popular belief, Dier was never approached by the Portuguese FA to switch allegiances from England to Portugal
He made his debut for Sporting in the Primeira League in November 2012, setting up the winner in a match against Braga. The key to his development, though, came with the appointment of Jesualdo Ferreira, who arrived at the club in January 2013.
Known as the Professor in Portugal, it was Ferreira who had the confidence in Dier to play him in the central midfield role he’s now relishing. The Spurs man only spent six months working with Ferreira, but it was the Professor who went a long way to completing an education that now’s being built on by Mauricio Pochettino.
Ferreira played a central role in Dier's development at Sporting
Contrary to popular belief, Dier was never approached by the Portuguese FA to switch allegiances from England to Portugal. If they had, it’s almost certain that the youngster would have rebuffed their advances in the same way he's been repelling attacks in the Spurs midfield.
Both club and country have every reason to be thankful for that.
More features every day on FFT.com
beats1
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I think its easy to say Dier is a good all rounder because he came from portugal
Not all academies are stuck in the dark ages
Dier has always been good technically but he isn't the only english defender who is
That said he is the only CB I know who is a good free kick taker who places it rather than smashing it, if we didnt have eriksen, he would probably be our next best free kick taker
Not all academies are stuck in the dark ages
Dier has always been good technically but he isn't the only english defender who is
That said he is the only CB I know who is a good free kick taker who places it rather than smashing it, if we didnt have eriksen, he would probably be our next best free kick taker
faymantaray
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Eat more artichoke.
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