Eric Dier

[n5yiddo]

That accent???

I blame DL...

 

[Mark_147]

Like I say I'm sure he know what he's doing, he speaks multiple languages. He was well known for helping foreign players adapt when they arrived. So I'll take his way of speaking with respect. It just seems a bit silly people mocking a player who speaks several languages.

Maybe the UK Prime minister should try that then when he's meeting Olaf Scholz.

 

[mil1lion]

Maybe the UK Prime minister should try that then when he's meeting foreign leaders.

None of these examples are the same thing. He's a player who has moved to Germany so he's adapted his speaking. It's not like we've just played a match in Germany and he's talking like that as a Spurs player in an interview.

 

[Mark_147]

None of these examples are the same thing. He's a player who has moved to Germany so he's adapted his speaking. It's not like we've just played a match in Germany and he's talking like that as a Spurs player in an interview.

You are saying that he's putting on an accent when speaking to a German person to make himself more understandable because English isn't the first language of the person to whom he's speaking to.

So on that basis the Uk prime minister should do the same when he next has a meeting with
Olaf Scholz or any other foreign leaders.

 

[robotsonic]

You are saying that he's putting on an accent when speaking to a German person to make himself more understandable because English isn't the first language of the person to whom he's speaking to.

So on that basis the Uk prime minister should do the same when he next has a meeting with
Olaf Scholz or any other foreign leaders.

He's not giving the answers for the benefit of the interviewer, he's doing it because most of the people watching will be German. That's who he's speaking to. And he desires a connection with them and to fit in, because he lives there now, and his team and their fanbase is German. It's not similar at all to this weird scenario.

 

[curlacious]

It's an example of "linguistic accommodation", where we unknowingly adopt elements of the speech patterns of the person we're speaking to, usually when that person or people (in this case the viewing audience) is someone we want to impress or endear ourselves to. Dier doesn't know he's doing it. We do it all the time, subtly, we just don't notice it.

 

[Mark_147]

He's not giving the answers for the benefit of the interviewer, he's doing it because most of the people watching will be German. That's who he's speaking to. And he desires a connection with them and to fit in, because he lives there now, and his team and their fanbase is German. It's not similar at all to this weird scenario.

Do you think he sounded German.

 

[Funk]

It's not his first language is it? He's Portuguese.

The first language comment was about Steve, How you say in English?

Regardless, he's done well out of Harry's move, let's just leave it at that.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

It's not his first language is it? He's Portuguese.

English is his first language.

 

[worcestersauce]

English is his first language.

I know, Cheltenham apparently.

 

[Wick3d]

Who cares?

Part of learning a language includes the accent and dialect. It makes it easier to pronounce specific words in said language.

Also, given he is multi-lingual, he is more likely to have an accent that can easily slip due to his environment.

All this highlights to me is the British complex when it comes to learning another language. We take the piss out of those who make a bit of effort to learn something new.

 

[0v3rl0r9]

Half an hour on Duolingo will give you a German accent, it's not exactly hard.

Unless you're doing a course in Spanish.

 

[Hotspurious]

It's an example of "linguistic accommodation", where we unknowingly adopt elements of the speech patterns of the person we're speaking to, usually when that person or people (in this case the viewing audience) is someone we want to impress or endear ourselves to. Dier doesn't know he's doing it. We do it all the time, subtly, we just don't notice it.

Agreed. When I moved to the UK for a year I sort of naturally began using phrases and pronunciation that was more similar to British English than American English - not because I wanted to fool anyone but just to be better understood. It makes sense that Dier would speak English in a way that a German would. The British are far too precious with the English language, accents and usage. They are a vast minority of those who use it as a first language.

 

[carpediem991]

In the last game of Bayern their CB (Upamecano), RB (Laimer) and CM (Kimmich) managed to get injured. Pick your position, Eric. Will get plenty of minutes now. Bayern have even less bodies available than we the last weeks.

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

I know, Cheltenham apparently.

Yep, that’s right mate.

 

[Styopa]

All this highlights to me is the British complex when it comes to learning another language. We take the piss out of those who make a bit of effort to learn something new.

Yeah I agree. It’s like the discussion about Kane learning German the other day. I think we tend to over simplify what learning a language is about though. We tend either towards the view that English people are too stupid/lazy/arrogant to bother learning another language (e.g Kane) or the other extreme as in look at this guy, he can speak more than one language so whatever he’s doing must be an indication of expertise (e.g Dier).

For what it’s worth, I agree with @curlacious and @HildoSpur and that what Dier was doing is most likely an example of “linguistic accommodation”. I find myself doing it on occasion, even when I am talking to non English native English speakers, like when I am in Ireland speaking to Irish relatives.

 

[soflapaul]

It's an example of "linguistic accommodation", where we unknowingly adopt elements of the speech patterns of the person we're speaking to, usually when that person or people (in this case the viewing audience) is someone we want to impress or endear ourselves to. Dier doesn't know he's doing it. We do it all the time, subtly, we just don't notice it.

Exactly although sometimes we do it purposefully. At a plant we worked at in Kosice, I had to do my best imitation of Ivan Drago (probably sounded more like Borat) at our final meeting. We discovered during the week that my comments were far more intelligible since that was closer to the English (language) accent they grew up with.

 

[Hazelton]

You tend to take on the accents of those around you, which is why regional accents exist in the first place. If everyone is speaking to him like that then it's easy to slip in to it in order to fit in, he's not doing it on purpose.

 

[rambu]

Imagine Diers reaction when they play fullbacks at centre back instead

On a side note, think they have 3 main players that can play RB this season - Mazraoui (currently at African cup), and then Kimmich and Laimer were both injured in this game, reportly looking at 2 - 8 weeks; wonder if they will try to go back to Trippier now. (Edit: or more likely Mukiele)

Goretzka played CB a couple times but Tuchel specifically said one of the reason they got Dier is so Goretzka doesn't need to play there anymore.

Leverkusen also 4 pts ahead of them and haven't lost one game this season yet...knee deep situation.

 

[muppetman]